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#473044 - Wed Jun 10 2009 06:08 AM Re: Growing the game question database
Starlord Mainstay Registered: Sat Apr 26 2008 Posts: 762 Loc: Cornwall UK	Rowena I take it you haven't gone digital or can't get the signal as Sky Three is available on Freeview, channel 11.
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#473045 - Wed Jun 10 2009 06:44 AM Re: Growing the game question database
BxBarracuda Forum Champion Registered: Wed Sep 05 2007 Posts: 5117 Loc: Bronx Newï¿½Yorkï¿½USAï¿½ï¿...	With so many shows on T.V. shows and channels to chose from, it's tough to find ones that a majority of people even in the regions the shows originate from, that know the characters and other information about the show.
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#473046 - Wed Jun 10 2009 07:01 AM Re: Growing the game question database
Snowman Prolific Registered: Wed Oct 31 2007 Posts: 1615 Loc: London, England	I think by definition anything that is only shown on Sky Three is obscure by UK standards.
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#473047 - Wed Jun 10 2009 07:21 AM Re: Growing the game question database
Rowena8482 Prolific Registered: Mon Mar 12 2007 Posts: 1408 Loc: Hartlepool Durham England UK	We don't have freeview no, and even if we did, I doubt I'd watch something called "Dog whisperer" anyway - which is not to say lots of people don't find it riveting of course. If it had been on Sky One I'd have thought "oh well that'll be me" as I don't watch much television at all and Sky One is a "main" channel, but Sky 3 - I didn't even know there was a Sky 3. I will have to look and see if we do get it. Our digital telly comes from a competitor of Sky so I'm not sure what we do and don't get when it comes to Sky channels. _________________________ It is better to open your eyes and say you do not understand, than to close your eyes and say you do not believe.
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#473048 - Thu Jun 11 2009 11:27 AM Re: Growing the game question database
MaggieG Enthusiast Registered: Sat Aug 09 2003 Posts: 485 Loc: Wales UK	I'm a bit puzzled. Playing the new question game I constantly come up against baseball questions which I have no idea about, and which seem to me to be terribly obscure. Yet I submitted a question about one of the most famous football managers that Britain has ever produced, Brian Clough - they've even made a film about him recently - and it was rejected as being too obscure. It seems a bit unfair.
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#473049 - Thu Jun 11 2009 11:54 AM Re: Growing the game question database
flopsymopsy Administrator Registered: Sat May 17 2008 Posts: 5470 Loc: Northampton England UK	LOL, MaggieG, I had Sebastian Coe, Steve Ovett, and Steve Cram rejected for the same reason - all in one question! One of the greatest athletics battles of all time. But as well as being obscure, it might also date apparently... well, yes, Olympics do that, especially those from 1984. _________________________ The Hubble Telescope has just picked up a sound from a fraction of a second before the Big Bang. The sound was "Uh oh".
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#473050 - Thu Jun 11 2009 12:11 PM Re: Growing the game question database
MaggieG Enthusiast Registered: Sat Aug 09 2003 Posts: 485 Loc: Wales UK	Are the editors for each category vetting the questions? If so, might it not be a nice idea to have a British representative on the sports editorial panel?
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#473051 - Thu Jun 11 2009 01:12 PM Re: Growing the game question database
ing Prolific Registered: Wed Mar 30 2005 Posts: 1636 Loc: Canberra ACT Australia	If I get one more baseball question I'm going to start punching my monitor! Also if get more which: assume I'm an organic chemist; have anything to do with 'wrestlers'; require me to read more than three lines of question and/or more than about five words per answer and/or perform mental calculations more complex than 5+7! There, I'm breathing again now...
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#473052 - Thu Jun 11 2009 01:28 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Mink Forum Adept Registered: Fri Jul 13 2007 Posts: 150 Loc: Devon UK	Hmmm, wonder if I should try submitting some equestrian sport questions - about non-UK people/horses of course! Haven't seen one yet...
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#473053 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:03 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Rowena8482 Prolific Registered: Mon Mar 12 2007 Posts: 1408 Loc: Hartlepool Durham England UK	I have ONE horsey Q in the list lol, it just hasn't come out yet... _________________________ It is better to open your eyes and say you do not understand, than to close your eyes and say you do not believe.
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#473054 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:19 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Starlord Mainstay Registered: Sat Apr 26 2008 Posts: 762 Loc: Cornwall UK	Question, if a question might become dated(flopsymopsy), does that mean all questions on history are invalid? Ing, if you find questions poor rate them as such. Now my gripe. Why are a couple of science questions, that I had rejected apparently in the database? When I checked to see if a new question was aalrerady in the database the two questions that had already been rejected appeared in the list of questions tha funtrivia already had.
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#473055 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:24 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Head Honcho Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969 Posts: 21449 Loc: USA	<< Are the editors for each category vetting the questions? If so, might it not be a nice idea to have a British representative on the sports editorial panel? >> No, sports questions are hard enough to make "generally interesting" as it is. We certainly don't want to ENCOURAGE people to submit obscure British sports trivia! Obscure U.S. sports questions are bad enough.
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#473056 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:29 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Rowena8482 Prolific Registered: Mon Mar 12 2007 Posts: 1408 Loc: Hartlepool Durham England UK	Quote: << Are the editors for each category vetting the questions? If so, might it not be a nice idea to have a British representative on the sports editorial panel? >> No, sports questions are hard enough to make "generally interesting" as it is. We certainly don't want to ENCOURAGE people to submit obscure British sports trivia! Obscure U.S. sports questions are bad enough. I feel a sudden need to make popcorn before the British arrive and start giving you chapter and verse on "Cloughy" Terry... he's a veritable institution! Cram, Coe, and Ovett aren't exactly obscure either.... _________________________ It is better to open your eyes and say you do not understand, than to close your eyes and say you do not believe.
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#473057 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:33 PM Re: Growing the game question database
miffy42 Explorer Registered: Mon Aug 07 2006 Posts: 58 Loc: York Yorkshire UK	Quote: << Are the editors for each category vetting the questions? If so, might it not be a nice idea to have a British representative on the sports editorial panel? >> No, sports questions are hard enough to make "generally interesting" as it is. We certainly don't want to ENCOURAGE people to submit obscure British sports trivia! Obscure U.S. sports questions are bad enough. Yes, but why are the obscure US sport questions allowable?
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#473058 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:34 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Head Honcho Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969 Posts: 21449 Loc: USA	<< I feel a sudden need to make popcorn before the British arrive and start giving you chapter and verse on "Cloughy" Terry... he's a veritable institution! Cram, Coe, and Ovett aren't exactly obscure either.... >> So do you contend that the majority of our audience (with more weighting in the U.S. due to the majority of our audience being there) has a reasonable chance of answering a question about "Cram, Coe, and Ovett"?
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#473059 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:36 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Head Honcho Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969 Posts: 21449 Loc: USA	<< Yes, but why are the obscure US sport questions allowable? >> Because whoever the editor was thought they were interesting enough to the majority of our audience, which happens to be HEAVILY (80%+) weighted American?
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#473060 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:44 PM Re: Growing the game question database
MaggieG Enthusiast Registered: Sat Aug 09 2003 Posts: 485 Loc: Wales UK	Yes, I realise that the site is heavily weighted towards Americans, and I've learned a HUGE amount in the time I've spent on here through answering questions on subjects about which I previously knew nothing, for which I'm very grateful. So please can we redress the balance just a bit by educating that vast American weight with some questions that we Brits find rather interesting?
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#473061 - Thu Jun 11 2009 02:59 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Head Honcho Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969 Posts: 21449 Loc: USA	<< So please can we redress the balance just a bit by educating that vast American weight with some questions that we Brits find rather interesting? >> That's precisely what I don't want this to turn into: QUESTION REVENGE. The goal of Question Quest from day 1 was to generate MORE GENERAL QUESTIONS that EVERYONE has a shot at. Yes, we do accept DIFFICULT questions if they are interesting, but if they, in the editor's eyes, are both difficult AND uninteresting to our general audience then there's no point accepting them. If you want to "redress the balance", please create UK quizzes, so that we have UK questions organized in one place and I can access them and serve them to those people who want to see them.
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#473062 - Thu Jun 11 2009 03:06 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Rowena8482 Prolific Registered: Mon Mar 12 2007 Posts: 1408 Loc: Hartlepool Durham England UK	Quote: << I feel a sudden need to make popcorn before the British arrive and start giving you chapter and verse on "Cloughy" Terry... he's a veritable institution! Cram, Coe, and Ovett aren't exactly obscure either.... >> So do you contend that the majority of our audience (with more weighting in the U.S. due to the majority of our audience being there) has a reasonable chance of answering a question about "Cram, Coe, and Ovett"? I think given the right question they might - their Olympic achievements certainly made headlines around the world, and lots of people watch the coverage of the Olympics who don't watch any other sport at all. It would have to be a "good" question, slanted right, with well chosen wrong answer options, but then those criteria apply to ALL the questions anyway I think the Olympics have more scope for sports Qs for this particular game than more specific events/sports do. I don't think Cram et al are more obscure than the sports Qs I've been seeing in the game sets anyway. Sport (and TV) are always going to be very difficult to write general/easy questions "for a global, mixed age audience" on, much harder than any other categories. At least with the Olympics, nobody can say they're not global _________________________ It is better to open your eyes and say you do not understand, than to close your eyes and say you do not believe.
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#473063 - Thu Jun 11 2009 03:15 PM Re: Growing the game question database
flopsymopsy Administrator Registered: Sat May 17 2008 Posts: 5470 Loc: Northampton England UK	It seems that the only sports questions that will be allowed are those about American sport. Who wore what jersey or who was picked in the 97th draft in 1937 are more important than athletes from other countries, no matter how famous they are. I told my team that a question about Coe, Ovett, and Cram had been rejected as obscure - it was an American who replied with a comment that those guys are legends. Sebastian Coe, by the way, is widely tipped as a possible successor to Jacques Rogge when he retires. Let's see how obscure he is then. _________________________ The Hubble Telescope has just picked up a sound from a fraction of a second before the Big Bang. The sound was "Uh oh".
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#473064 - Thu Jun 11 2009 03:35 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Head Honcho Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969 Posts: 21449 Loc: USA	I have no problem with us throwing the majority of questions into the New Player game and seeing what happens. The one thing that I DO want to avoid is a situation where the New Player game becomes so filled with specific, obscure stuff that players choose not to play in it anymore. At that point, the whole game sort of collapses. So we can loosen "what editors accept", but we are still going to edit for BORING. Questions that are both obscure AND boring aren't worth anyone's time -- author, editor, or player. So please -- if you're going to submit British sports questions, at least choose POTENTIALLY interesting questions (and maybe those mentioned above are interesting enough in a relaxed-rejection world). American AND British questions about what number was on Fred's jersey in 1982 or what the score was in anything other than a special game will be rejected. Ya? Edited by Terry (Thu Jun 11 2009 03:37 PM)
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#473065 - Thu Jun 11 2009 03:40 PM Re: Growing the game question database
chessart Enthusiast Registered: Thu Dec 09 1999 Posts: 323 Loc: Ohio USA	I can't see questions about Ovett or Coe being considered Brit-centric. They are among the top runners in history. Track and field is world-wide, and the Olympics is of world-wide interest. I note that my two Olympics quizzes are more highly-rated than my baseball ones, so FT players would, I think, be accepting of more Olympics questions.
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#473066 - Thu Jun 11 2009 03:43 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Starlord Mainstay Registered: Sat Apr 26 2008 Posts: 762 Loc: Cornwall UK	I guess if Seb Coe is too obscure, then questions on athletes like Jesse Owens and Carl Lewis will have to be ruled out as being too obscure as well.
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#473067 - Thu Jun 11 2009 03:57 PM Re: Growing the game question database
supersal1 Mainstay Registered: Sat Jul 17 2004 Posts: 727 Loc: Essex UK	Can I nominate my team mate Bottlerocket for Diplomat of the Year for managing to combine Seinfeld and Doctor Who in the same question? It's a lovely feeling to give a question top rating, then find out that you 'know' the author.
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#473068 - Thu Jun 11 2009 04:08 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Rowena8482 Prolific Registered: Mon Mar 12 2007 Posts: 1408 Loc: Hartlepool Durham England UK	"edit for boring" YES! Let the player ratings speak for themselves it'll soon be apparent what people find interesting and enjoyable and what they don't. Some of my best rated Qs have the lowest % correct, while the couple that have got high % correct are average or at the low end of good (literally going from average to good because of one play so right on the border). Likewise some of the ones where I've said "oh wow! Good question" have been ones I got wrong, but they were still great Qs. Seinfeld AND Dr. Who! I wish I'd gotten that one. It would be lovely if we could "spy" on other sets lol, although then we'd have seen all the new Qs before, when they pop up in the other hourlies. I am going to have to play the hourlies just to catch all these great new questions now (Like I need an excuse to spend more time here...) _________________________ It is better to open your eyes and say you do not understand, than to close your eyes and say you do not believe.
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