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#473069 - Thu Jun 11 2009 04:10 PM Re: Growing the game question database
chessart Offline
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I nominate the question about a country formed from an acronym as best question I have seen. (sorry but I can't remember the author.) Found myself wishing there was another button for "totally outstanding".

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#473070 - Thu Jun 11 2009 06:48 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Offline
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Posts: 21449
Loc: USA
Just a FYI:

Editors are pretty much in agreement now that almost any question that is well written and *SOMEWHAT INTERESTING* will be accepted. That means there will be more leeway for British or other questions that may be specific to a country.

Note however that I suspect that if you do submit such questions, they will be rated poorly in the new player game and almost certainly never make it to the general hourly/daily games.

I am able to do some pretty cool things now though... I can actually keep stats on what % of brits rate a question as "good" and what % of americans rate it as good, to *dynamically determine* whether a question is specific to one country or another. I could use such stats, for example, to select questions "for a British audience" game in the future.

Questions that aren't somewhat interesting, entertaining, instructive, or fun will be rejected, regardless of topic. We simply don't care who won Greatest Geek 14 or what "Golden Girls" character wore a blue shirt in episode 44. This is "fun trivia", not "barely even counts as trivia" dot com.

So please, if you're going to write questions in the land of obscure or on topics that our American-centric audience likely has no clue about, at least find stuff that is entertaining or interesting. After all, that's what we're all here for: to be entertained and to learn something.


Edited by Terry (Thu Jun 11 2009 06:53 PM)

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#473071 - Thu Jun 11 2009 07:08 PM Re: Growing the game question database
bottle_rocket Offline
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Registered: Sun May 01 2005
Posts: 128
Loc: Connecticut USA
Thanks Terry for all your effort on finding what seems like a fair solution. It's great that questions correct can be tracked by region. This could really help infuse the international games which seemed to have fallen out of favor (or favour, don't want to start trouble here.)

I was wondering if you are still considering setting up a badge for those who have written well-received questions. It might be just the kind of incentive to keep up the quality of what is turning out to be a much improved batch of questions.

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#473072 - Thu Jun 11 2009 07:28 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Offline
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<< I was wondering if you are still considering setting up a badge for those who have written well-received questions. It might be just the kind of incentive to keep up the quality of what is turning out to be a much improved batch of questions. >>

Yes, this is coming!

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#473073 - Thu Jun 11 2009 08:07 PM Re: Growing the game question database
guitargoddess Offline
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Quote:

Just a FYI:

Editors are pretty much in agreement now that almost any question that is well written and *SOMEWHAT INTERESTING* will be accepted. That means there will be more leeway for British or other questions that may be specific to a country.






Does this mean I may re-submit a question that was rejected for not being suitable "bar trivia"?
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#473074 - Thu Jun 11 2009 08:35 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Offline
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Posts: 21449
Loc: USA
<< Does this mean I may re-submit a question that was rejected for not being suitable "bar trivia"? >>

Yes, if it's "somewhat interesting".

I will be putting in an edit feature shortly where you can edit and resubmit rejected entries.

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#473075 - Thu Jun 11 2009 08:40 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Offline
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p.s. I'm really enjoying most of these recent entries. Some fascinating questions have been posted!

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#473076 - Thu Jun 11 2009 09:24 PM Re: Growing the game question database
guitargoddess Offline
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Posts: 41461
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Just so you know, Terry, I got this error again when trying to submit a question that had a quote at the end of it, with an exclamation, quote, question mark (!"?)


The following information is meant for the website developer for debugging purposes.

Error Occurred While Processing Request
Encountered ")" at line 1, column 87. Was expecting one of: "(" ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


The error occurred in /home/trivia/www/tags/lucene_gamepool.cfm: line 70
Called from /home/trivia/www/questionpost2.cfm: line 74
Called from /home/trivia/www/Application.cfc: line 283

68 : luceneQuery = CreateObject("java", "org.apache.lucene.search.Query");
69 : queryParser = CreateObject("java", "org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser");
70 : luceneQuery = queryParser.parse(keyword, "body", analyzer);
71 :
72 : // run the search



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Resources:
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax.
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.


Browser Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; GTB6; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)
Remote Address 174.112.210.43
Referrer http://www.funtrivia.com/questionpost.cfm
Date/Time 11-Jun-09 10:21 PM

Stack Trace (click to expand)
at cflucene_gamepool2ecfm191884037.runPage(/home/trivia/www/tags/lucene_gamepool.cfm:70) at cfquestionpost22ecfm1284027563.runPage(/home/trivia/www/questionpost2.cfm:74) at cfApplication2ecfc59017262$funcONREQUEST.runFunction(/home/trivia/www/Application.cfc:283)


org.apache.lucene.queryParser.ParseException: Encountered ")" at line 1, column 87.
Was expecting one of:
"(" ...
<QUOTED> ...
<TERM> ...
<PREFIXTERM> ...
<WILDTERM> ...
<RANGEIN> ...
<RANGEEX> ...
<NUMBER> ...

at org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.generateParseException(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.jj_consume_token(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.Clause(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.Query(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.Clause(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.Query(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.parse(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.parse(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor965.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.runtime.java.JavaProxy.invoke(JavaProxy.java:87)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:2260)
at cflucene_gamepool2ecfm191884037.runPage(/home/trivia/www/tags/lucene_gamepool.cfm:70)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:192)
at coldfusion.filter.CFVariablesScopeFilter.invoke(CFVariablesScopeFilter.java:63)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.ModuleTag.doStartTag(ModuleTag.java:280)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTcfTag(CfJspPage.java:2654)
at cfquesti
c16
onpost22ecfm1284027563.runPage(/home/trivia/www/questionpost2.cfm:74)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:192)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:366)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTag(CfJspPage.java:2644)
at cfApplication2ecfc59017262$funcONREQUEST.runFunction(/home/trivia/www/Application.cfc:283)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:418)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ReturnTypeFilter.invoke(UDFMethod.java:360)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ArgumentCollectionFilter.invoke(UDFMethod.java:324)
at coldfusion.filter.FunctionAccessFilter.invoke(FunctionAccessFilter.java:56)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.runFilterChain(UDFMethod.java:277)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:192)
at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:448)
at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:308)
at coldfusion.runtime.AppEventInvoker.invoke(AppEventInvoker.java:74)
at coldfusion.runtime.AppEventInvoker.onRequest(AppEventInvoker.java:243)
at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:269)
at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:48)
at coldfusion.filter.MonitoringFilter.invoke(MonitoringFilter.java:40)
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:70)
at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.NoCacheFilter.invoke(NoCacheFilter.java:46)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:175)
at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86)
at coldfusion.monitor.event.MonitoringServletFilter.doFilter(MonitoringServletFilter.java:42)
at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapFilter.doFilter(BootstrapFilter.java:46)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101)
at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:106)
at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:284)
at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:543)
at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:203)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:320)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:428)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:266)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)
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#473077 - Thu Jun 11 2009 11:59 PM Re: Growing the game question database
ing Offline
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Posts: 1636
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia  
Quote:

I will be putting in an edit feature shortly where you can edit and resubmit rejected entries.




Will the edit feature also apply to existing (accepted) Qs? And if so, should I then make more difficult Qs easier when simply adding a word or two would do so? Ta!

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#473078 - Fri Jun 12 2009 04:44 AM Re: Growing the game question database
Rowena8482 Offline
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Loc: Hartlepool Durham England UK
If we see a question in the quest game, and then see the same question but from a full quiz somewhere else, (different author, quiz online since 2002) should we do anything?


Edited by Rowena8482 (Fri Jun 12 2009 04:44 AM)
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#473079 - Fri Jun 12 2009 09:04 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Squisher Offline
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Registered: Tue Nov 27 2007
Posts: 92
Loc: Calgary Alberta Canada       
Oh boy, I just submitted a question with a blatant typo! I guess there is no way to fix it, unless an editor rejects it or corrects it... This is very embarrassing. I hope the editing options come soon!

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#473080 - Fri Jun 12 2009 09:26 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Anton Offline
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Registered: Sat May 03 2008
Posts: 926
Loc: California USA
I'd like to know why my question got rejected because it was "boring" when I see some that got accepted that are worse than mine? Popularity contest most likely. I am not in the "in crowd."

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#473081 - Fri Jun 12 2009 09:43 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Anton Offline
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Posts: 926
Loc: California USA
Aren't we, the players, supposed to decide which questions are boring and which are not?

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#473082 - Fri Jun 12 2009 10:17 PM Re: Growing the game question database
queproblema Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 25 2006
Posts: 869
Loc: Kenny Lake Alaska USA     
Yes, we players do rate the questions, blindly. We don't know who wrote the question until after we rate it.

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#473083 - Fri Jun 12 2009 10:30 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Anton Offline
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Posts: 926
Loc: California USA
My question was rejected before it went into the game pool. That was not rejected by a player. An editor rejected it on the spot because he/she thought it was boring.

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#473084 - Fri Jun 12 2009 10:38 PM Re: Growing the game question database
agony Offline

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Posts: 16595
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Terry was pretty clear about it, above -

Quote:

Questions that aren't somewhat interesting, entertaining, instructive, or fun will be rejected, regardless of topic. We simply don't care who won Greatest Geek 14 or what "Golden Girls" character wore a blue shirt in episode 44. This is "fun trivia", not "barely even counts as trivia" dot com.





Yes, this is subjective - we haven't got an "interestingomometer" back here to measure how interesting a question is. There is no point, though, in comparing your question to others, and saying "My question is only as boring as that other boring one". Instead, compare yours to the high rated ones listed, and aspire to do something like that.

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#473085 - Fri Jun 12 2009 10:43 PM Re: Growing the game question database
Anton Offline
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It should still be up to us what is considered boring.

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#473086 - Fri Jun 12 2009 11:55 PM Re: Growing the game question database
MotherGoose Offline
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Posts: 5007
Loc: Western Australia
Quote:

I nominate the question about a country formed from an acronym as best question I have seen. (sorry but I can't remember the author.) Found myself wishing there was another button for "totally outstanding".





Chessart, that was my question. Thank you so much for your lovely compliment. It means far more to me than a badge.
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#473087 - Sat Jun 13 2009 12:24 AM Re: Growing the game question database
delboy22 Offline
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MotherGoose - as far as I remember EVERY question of yours that I have answered has had a good rating from me.
You have the balance just right, your questions are interesting, sometimes amusing, informative, and yet concise
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#473088 - Sat Jun 13 2009 12:48 AM Re: Growing the game question database
Lones78 Offline
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I agree with delboy. MotherGoose, your questions are the most interesting by a long shot.

I am also glad to see Nightmare doing quizzes now that arent based on baseball if I had got another baseball question in the new question game I was going to scream!
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#473089 - Sat Jun 13 2009 12:56 AM Re: Growing the game question database
delboy22 Offline
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hehehehe - and I agree with YOU Lones - if I see another obscure American sports question, I too will scream!
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#473090 - Sat Jun 13 2009 01:26 AM Re: Growing the game question database
MotherGoose Offline
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Thank you for your kind words. It really is nice to know that people enjoy one's efforts.

However, if it helps you feel better, even my questions don't always get accepted! I've had at least four rejected for various reasons, not all of which I agree with. But at least you can be assured that editors don't get special privileges and there's no "in crowd".
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#473091 - Sat Jun 13 2009 04:48 AM Re: Growing the game question database
Starlord Offline
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Slight problem on question set 9 of the current set of questions, on question 10 there are no answers to choose from.

10. Music
In what song - covered by just about everybody - do we find what is quite possibly the only use of the word "pleb[e]ian" in popular song?

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#473092 - Sat Jun 13 2009 07:40 AM Re: Growing the game question database
ing Offline
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Quote:

Slight problem on question set 9 of the current set of questions, on question 10 there are no answers to choose from.

10. Music
In what song - covered by just about everybody - do we find what is quite possibly the only use of the word "pleb[e]ian" in popular song?




Dang, that's my question! And just in case there was any doubt, it certainly did have answers at some point!

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#473093 - Sat Jun 13 2009 09:30 AM Re: Growing the game question database
Terry Offline
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Posts: 21449
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<< Dang, that's my question! And just in case there was any doubt, it certainly did have answers at some point! >>

Looks like that's one of the old bugged questions, where answers in quotes sometimes got messed up.

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