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#482080 - Tue Jul 07 2009 08:48 PM Question Quest
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I am having trouble posting a Question Quest. The message I receive says that it is checking to see if it is a new question, then advises that submissions longer than 250 words will be rejected, then . . . nothing, it just hangs and when I check later, there is no indication that my question has been accepted or rejected. A former teammate of mine could find nothing wrong with the format. This has been going on for a week. It doesn't seem to matter how short I make the question.

Who can I ask about this? Please respond to my personal mailbox.

Thanx, Chevy

P.S. Tried to find appropriate Forum topic without success.

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#482081 - Wed Jul 08 2009 10:35 AM Re: Question Quest
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If you go to My Contributions: Not Yet Rated, do you see your question in the bottom portion, the 'Waiting to be Checked' area?

Or, is your question longer than 250 words? I've only ever seen that message come up when the word limit has been exceeded, I think.

If that's not the case, I don't know!
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#482082 - Wed Jul 08 2009 12:16 PM Re: Question Quest
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My problem recently has to do with the answers having to be a specific amount of characters. I actually had to omit a word from an answer just to fit it in the answer box even though it was only off by one single letter.

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#482083 - Wed Jul 08 2009 12:45 PM Re: Question Quest
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I have a tendency to write long answer options, so I've had to modify my style a bit for these questions, too. There's usually an alternate way to present the answer option, though, if you think a bit.

What we're going for in the single questions are more forthright, simple questions. Quizzes accept long answers - there is still room in quizzes for a more nuanced approach.

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#482084 - Wed Jul 08 2009 01:44 PM Re: Question Quest
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Thanks to each of you for your help.

Nothing in the queue.

Answer box? Didn't see one separate from the "question box".

Well, here's the question I submitted. Maybe this will make it ineligible, but that's alright: I'm just trying to make sure I understand the format so I can write 49 more (and better!) Questlets.

Subject: History

On July 30, 1945, the last major U.S. warship sunk in World War II was destroyed by a Japanese submarine after delivering the first atomic bomb to Tinian in the Northern Marianas Islands. What was the name of this cruiser?

USS Birmingham
USS Indianapolis
USS Philadelphia
USS San Francisco

I have omitted one sentence of additional information to avoid giving away the answer.

Any ideas? Should I just try another question using the same style?

Cheers, Chevy

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#482085 - Wed Jul 08 2009 02:04 PM Re: Question Quest
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Does it let you get to the screen where you enter the incorrect answers and Interesting Info?

I just tried copying and pasting your question into the Question submission box (without submitting, don't worry ), to see if I would get an error message of any kind, and it did show me the list of possibly similar questions and allowed me to click 'My question is original'. Have you gotten that far?
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#482086 - Wed Jul 08 2009 02:11 PM Re: Question Quest
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I am not sure this will help but I had a question rejected for a formatting error. When you submit your question...just write the question...then hit next...then put in the right answer and three wrong answers and then put in the interesting info. Don't put a question and the answers all in format at the same time...I hope that made some kind of sense.

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#482087 - Wed Jul 08 2009 02:45 PM Re: Question Quest
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On July 30, 1945, the last major U.S. warship sunk in World War II was destroyed by a Japanese submarine after delivering the first atomic bomb to Tinian in the Northern Marianas Islands. What was the name of this cruiser?




This is ALL that should be put in the question field. After you hit submit, you will be taken to another page where you will be shown some similar questions, and asked to verify that yours is unique. Then you will be taken to another page, where you will be able to put in the correct answer, and your 3 incorrect answers. Your interesting info will be on this page, as well.

You are not the first to experience this misunderstanding. I've had to people in my group contact me about it.
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#482088 - Wed Jul 08 2009 02:53 PM Re: Question Quest
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<< You are not the first to experience this misunderstanding. I've had to people in my group contact me about it. >>

I'll go clarify the text now to avoid this problem!

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#482089 - Wed Jul 08 2009 04:32 PM Re: Question Quest
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Wesley's tutorial page (in the "We all have questions" challenge text) is very clear at explaining how to do the Question Quest process. Maybe a wee note to direct people to it, if they're having problems, would help.
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#482090 - Thu Jul 09 2009 09:41 AM Re: Question Quest
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Quote:

I have a tendency to write long answer options, so I've had to modify my style a bit for these questions, too. There's usually an alternate way to present the answer option, though, if you think a bit.

What we're going for in the single questions are more forthright, simple questions. Quizzes accept long answers - there is still room in quizzes for a more nuanced approach.




Mine was a title of a poem; I had to omit the first word to fit the last letter. It was a 6 word answer.

I did include the first word in the I.I. section (in brackets) but still, anyone who knows the title will know that that's not the title even if it is a filler word.

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#482091 - Thu Jul 09 2009 12:39 PM Re: Question Quest
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Yeah, I had a similar problem lately when I submitted a TV question. I am aware that normally, all episode and series titles are to go in quotes, but in this case, I could not do it because my longest answer would then have been 3 characters over (each answer had two quote-worthy items, an episode and a series). So I sent the question without quotes and promptly got it rejected...

Maybe a FEW more characters wouldn't be the worst thing


Edited by WesleyCrusher (Thu Jul 09 2009 12:41 PM)
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#482092 - Thu Jul 09 2009 01:05 PM Re: Question Quest
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You know, by adding a few more characters, the same problem would arise. Just with longer questions. It may fix a few of the ones NOW, but it won't fix all of them. Long answers would still be cut short.
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#482093 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:41 PM Re: Question Quest
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Now I understand my mistake. I was trying to complete the answers and add interesting information at the same time as I submitted the question.

I am now officially in the queue awaiting approval. I'm sorry if I did not read just the FAQs, M'am. Thanks again to all for your help.

Cheers, Chevy

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#482094 - Fri Jul 10 2009 12:25 AM Re: Question Quest
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I dislike when questions are rejected; especially if you've entered a few at the same time, and you're not able to edit the question that the Editor states you should edit. You have to attempt to remember what you wrote for that specific thing when the Editor states it needs to be edited.

I had this recently done with a question; which I may resubmit at another time if I can ever remember what I put in the I.I. that the Editor thought wasn't enough.

-Nam
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#482095 - Fri Jul 10 2009 12:26 AM Re: Question Quest
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I always write my questions offline first in a Word document and keep them until they have been accepted. That means if they are rejected then I have everything to go back to for any changes that need to be made.

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#482096 - Sat Jul 11 2009 08:23 AM Re: Question Quest
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I try and do the same Snowman. If I come up with a question when I am not on my home computer, I just note it to myself, until I can put it into the document.

On another note. In the Question Quest there are rankings to see how viable questions are for the GC and hourly games.

Would it be possible for players to start ranking the GC questions?

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#482097 - Sat Jul 11 2009 03:48 PM Re: Question Quest
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I just got a question rejected, and I don't understand the rejection.

I asked who wrote a series of books, I named 3 books by the author, and the "editor" stated it was rejected for:

"Time / date dependent. This question will become stale in future years."

The question was on a contemporary author, and I've seen similar questions on dead authors but mine's rejected because of "time/date dependent" -- whatever that means.

-Nam
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#482098 - Sat Jul 11 2009 03:59 PM Re: Question Quest
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Quote:

I just got a question rejected, and I don't understand the rejection.

I asked who wrote a series of books, I named 3 books by the author, and the "editor" stated it was rejected for:

"Time / date dependent. This question will become stale in future years."

The question was on a contemporary author, and I've seen similar questions on dead authors but mine's rejected because of "time/date dependent" -- whatever that means.

-Nam




How did you phrase the question and/or the interesting info?
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#482099 - Sat Jul 11 2009 04:31 PM Re: Question Quest
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I just found one of my own questions in there, submitted by someone else with just one word changed, and only one sentence of interesting info, also lifted direct from my paragraph
Come on people, there's no need to be so blatant surely? Think of your own blooming questions!
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#482100 - Sat Jul 11 2009 04:44 PM Re: Question Quest
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If anybody sees this kind of thing, please copy and paste the question and the user name of the author, and send it to one of us. This is the kind of thing they should lose writing privileges for, but because of the way the game works it's not that easy for us to catch. Private messages, please, we don't want to be making public accusations before things are investigated.

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#482101 - Sat Jul 11 2009 04:48 PM Re: Question Quest
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There is a link available in the New Question Game to the Question Quest. Could a similar link be put in Question Quest to the New Question Game? Of course, I have the New Question Game in my Favorites list, but non-GM players could use the link if it were available.

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#482102 - Sat Jul 11 2009 04:50 PM Re: Question Quest
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I used the little box on the ratings page Agony, with the "major fixes required" thing. Was just having a wee "vent" - I will say no more honest!
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#482103 - Sat Jul 11 2009 06:15 PM Re: Question Quest
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Is it okay for me to resubmit one of my questions that I have rejected, provided I make the necessary changes? Or is that not allowed?

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#482104 - Sat Jul 11 2009 06:31 PM Re: Question Quest
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I just got a question rejected, and I don't understand the rejection.

I asked who wrote a series of books, I named 3 books by the author, and the "editor" stated it was rejected for:

"Time / date dependent. This question will become stale in future years."

The question was on a contemporary author, and I've seen similar questions on dead authors but mine's rejected because of "time/date dependent" -- whatever that means.






This was probably me, because I think I do most of the single question editing in Literature. Was there a reason why you put "editor" in inverted commas?

Obviously I can't remember your question word for word, but I do remember rejecting a number of questions for time/date dependency when I edited yesterday or the day before.

What we "editors" are conscious of is that these questions will be online for years to come. I believe that the single questions in the Question Quest will eventually end up in the database for the daily mixed quizzes.

For example, let's say you have a question which refers to a series having three books in it. With contemporary living authors, there is always the danger that they will decide to produce another book in the series. So at some point in the future, your question may become invalid. J.K. Rowling has said numerous times in interviews that she will only write seven Harry Potter books, but she could always change her mind, couldn't she?

You aren't even safe with dead authors. Books have been discovered and published after the death of an author - look at V.C. Andrews!

I remember rejecting one question because it referred to book at being "the latest" in a series. Well, that one's going to be an invalid question the minute the author releases another in the series.

I also remember rejecting a question because it referred to a book being released in the future. The Quiz Creation Guidelines state quite clearly that this is unacceptable. What if it doesn't happen and the book doesn't end up being released according to schedule, or even at all? Again, the question will be invalid.

Please read the Quiz Creation guidelines ( http://www.funtrivia.com/ql.cfm?cat=3533 ) for more details and examples of unacceptable question formats.

It's possible that you have seen other questions online that contain time-based faults. Some date back to the early days at FunTrivia when the rules were not as strict and we were all still on a learning curve as to what works and what doesn't. Some will still slip by the editors even today. I think I've been guilty of submitting such questions myself! Not even editors are perfect! However, according to the Quiz Creation Guidelines, these errors generate the second highest number of correction notes, after fill-in-the-blank questions. So eventually they will be weeded out.

If you read the guidelines and you still don't understand why an "editor" rejects your quiz or question, you can send them a polite note and they'll be happy to tell you why.

Edited to add a P.S. Sometimes the question itself is technically okay but the interesting information contains the time-based problem. All you need to do is amend your II and resubmit.


Edited by MotherGoose (Sat Jul 11 2009 08:45 PM)
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