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#482597 - Thu Jul 09 2009 12:36 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Terry, it all looks great except that

"- There will be a maximum # of points that can be earned from quiz authoring in a month to 4 or 5 quizzes that go online. This will discourage the rapid submitting of sub-par quizzes and encourage authors to carefully consider their contributions."

might be a bit of slap in the face of authors who do deliver both speed and quality. How about when an editor approves the quiz, they can also rate it and if their rating is an Excellent, the quiz doesn't count against the limit? That way, you could submit 5 average/good quizzes plus as many excellents as you can manage...
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#482598 - Thu Jul 09 2009 12:46 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I shall "go against the flow" here and say I don't care... I would still write quizzes if I had to "buy" the template with points, I love doing them and get my "reward" when I see them go online. There's nothing to beat arriving in the morning and suddenly realising "hey! that's MINE" on the new quiz list on the front page. It's even nicer when there's a compliment waiting, or a quiz has had lots of play in a short time (just my opinion)
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#482599 - Thu Jul 09 2009 12:49 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Rowena, I agree, I don't mind not getting points. The excitement of getting a quiz online is good enough.



But the points sure does help. ;-)

Imagine, though, Nightmare and TheJazzKickAzz will get over 1,000,000 points! :-)
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#482600 - Thu Jul 09 2009 12:49 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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How about when an editor approves the quiz, they can also rate it and if their rating is an Excellent, the quiz doesn't count against the limit?




Is that even possible? I didn't think an editor could take a quiz they edit for a certain amount of time.
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#482601 - Thu Jul 09 2009 01:01 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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How about when an editor approves the quiz, they can also rate it and if their rating is an Excellent, the quiz doesn't count against the limit?




Is that even possible? I didn't think an editor could take a quiz they edit for a certain amount of time.




I have a feeling that the rating that they are referring to is more internal. It wouldn't count towards the overall player rating of the quiz, but when the quiz is placed online, it'd be as simple as clicking a button and saying "here, this is good enough to constitute a couple extra points".

In addition, editors can't play quizzes they just placed online in order to claim the Buzzy Bee. (At least, I think that was the reason.)
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#482602 - Thu Jul 09 2009 01:01 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I think he means like a little feature that the editor has, similar to what we have at the end of the new question tournament, to pick if it is excellent, average, or poor. Excellent is unlimited, average/poor is what is maxed out in the month. :-) Right, Wesley, did I understand that right?
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#482603 - Thu Jul 09 2009 01:12 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I shall "go against the flow" here and say I don't care... I would still write quizzes if I had to "buy" the template with points, I love doing them and get my "reward" when I see them go online. There's nothing to beat arriving in the morning and suddenly realising "hey! that's MINE" on the new quiz list on the front page. It's even nicer when there's a compliment waiting, or a quiz has had lots of play in a short time (just my opinion)




I completely agree! The last two quizzes I had go online I've been working on (on and off) for over two years to get them "just right". The one I'm working on right now, 7 complete questions in 5 days, is downright speedy by comparison! But I know that even after all ten questions are "complete" I'll still spend another couple of weeks adjusting the wording until everything flows. I can't see it taking any less than three weeks.

I remember as a "new author" I used to try to churn out a new quiz every couple of days, but I don't take half as much pride in those as I do the ones that I've worked on longer and harder, and the ratings generally agree that those quizzes are favoured by players.

Having a good and interesting quiz that people enjoy playing means a lot more to me than any number of points.
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#482604 - Thu Jul 09 2009 01:33 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I would agree with the latest sentiments - the greatest prize for me as a quiz/crossword author is the COMPLIMENT NOTE - it's worth more than any other 'prize' - and many of the compliments I have received have been on the simplest of quizzes - one doesn't need to write an essay for the average member to enjoy the quiz, but I accept that "one mans meat is another mans poison".
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#482605 - Thu Jul 09 2009 02:27 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I think he means like a little feature that the editor has, similar to what we have at the end of the new question tournament, to pick if it is excellent, average, or poor. Excellent is unlimited, average/poor is what is maxed out in the month. :-) Right, Wesley, did I understand that right?




That's pretty much what I was referring to although I was thinking of it using the standard scale and maybe, but not necessarily, even counting as the first of the 20 required ratings (since the editor has spent time reading the quiz, they might as well have a vote in rating it.) I wasn't implying for them to play the quiz, the rating entry could just as well happen along with the approval.
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#482606 - Thu Jul 09 2009 03:21 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I think he means like a little feature that the editor has, similar to what we have at the end of the new question tournament, to pick if it is excellent, average, or poor. Excellent is unlimited, average/poor is what is maxed out in the month. :-) Right, Wesley, did I understand that right?




That's pretty much what I was referring to although I was thinking of it using the standard scale and maybe, but not necessarily, even counting as the first of the 20 required ratings (since the editor has spent time reading the quiz, they might as well have a vote in rating it.) I wasn't implying for them to play the quiz, the rating entry could just as well happen along with the approval.




Um, I am probably being dim and asking a stupid question here, but why would an editor be putting a quiz online if they thought it was "poor" in some way? And if they think a quiz is "excellent" then they have Editor's Choice available...
AND lol how many people actually submit more than 5 or 6 quizzes a month? (yes I have, once, but it was a "series" of books so they all came together, but is that *that* common?)
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#482607 - Thu Jul 09 2009 03:32 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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LadyC, oh how we miss you on the editing staff! It's nice to see you here though!


Had to love that new quiz of yours!
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#482608 - Thu Jul 09 2009 03:35 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Row, there are a LOT of people who have more than 5 or 6 online in a month. Me, Kyleisalive, Lord_Digby, Soozy_Woozy, just to name a few. Maybe not that many EVERY month, but it happens a lot. :-)
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#482609 - Thu Jul 09 2009 03:35 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Um, I am probably being dim and asking a stupid question here, but why would an editor be putting a quiz online if they thought it was "poor" in some way? And if they think a quiz is "excellent" then they have Editor's Choice available...




I can name a few instance where quizzes are put online in a very formulaic way (ie. the billions of brain teasers quizzes of similar patterns without any interesting information). The quizzes are submitted, and sure they follow the guidelines, but they don't necessarily show that a good deal of effort was put into it. Or maybe there's that quiz which puts the bare minimum of effort in and still slides in, or the quiz containing a large number of spelling errors that the editor fixes then places online.
I think it's a nice little middle ground between simply online and Editor's Choice.
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#482610 - Thu Jul 09 2009 03:38 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Row, there are a LOT of people who have more than 5 or 6 online in a month. Me, Kyleisalive, Lord_Digby, Soozy_Woozy, just to name a few. Maybe not that many EVERY month, but it happens a lot. :-)




I had fifteen last month and I regarded it as a slow month...
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#482611 - Thu Jul 09 2009 04:08 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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"The quizzes are submitted, and sure they follow the guidelines, but they don't necessarily show that a good deal of effort was put into it."

Ever written a brain-teaser quiz kyleisalive?

If you had, then you would know that it's a SKILL that DOES require a lot of BRAINPOWER on the part of the author, the WORK and effort, goes into formulating the question. there are many of these types of quizzes where 'interesting' info is hardly needed - they really are in a 'Class of their own'

However, I agree that there ARE poorly written brainteasers the same as there ARE poorly written quizzes in EVERY other category.


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#482612 - Thu Jul 09 2009 04:15 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Row, there are a LOT of people who have more than 5 or 6 online in a month. Me, Kyleisalive, Lord_Digby, Soozy_Woozy, just to name a few. Maybe not that many EVERY month, but it happens a lot. :-)




I had fifteen last month and I regarded it as a slow month...




Wow Kyle! How do you find time to eat and sleep? Go you!
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#482613 - Thu Jul 09 2009 04:30 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I must agree with Delboy, Kyle. It is tough to write a brain teaser quiz, and even if you can, some answers are as simple as "are," or "at," like in drop a letter quizzes, and what kind of interesting information could you make for that?
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#482614 - Thu Jul 09 2009 04:38 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Thank you salami.

What makes a GOOD braintwister stand head and shoulders above 'other quizzes' is the fact that the subject matter cannot be researched - you cannot read a book or watch a movie, or play a video game, and remember the content. An author has to use his SHARP MIND and his INTELLECT to formulate the questions - a skill which only very people on this site have ....

btw - I have 5 Braintwist Anagrams in the sunglasses club - thank you to all the intellectuals who PUT them there ....
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#482615 - Thu Jul 09 2009 04:42 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Er.. can someone explain what has happened with the Editor's Choice badge? As far as I know, I still only have one qualifying quiz, but the badge showed up in my mailbox today.
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#482616 - Thu Jul 09 2009 04:47 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Also, regarding Brain Teasers - I fully agree with Kyle. Yes, there are a lot of really good Brain Teasers online, some that took a lot of thought and hard work to write properly. There are also a ton of quizzes that seem like they could have been written in 10 minutes simply by opening a dictionary, with no interesting info included.
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#482617 - Thu Jul 09 2009 04:56 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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With due respect GG, as you have some excellent quizzes online - you are not a prolific author of Braintwists - other than the odd 'fractured words' quiz.

Your forté, like Kyle, lies elsewhere.
My forté is writing Braintwists.

The quizzes of both yourself and Kyle cannot compare to Braintwists - they require totally different skills.

Are either 'types' of quiz any less, or any more, deserving of recognition in the sunglasses club?
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#482618 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:00 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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No, those kinds of quizzes to which I refer definitely have an audience out there of people who seem to like them, and that's fine. It just seems to me that they're... I don't want to say less deserving or anything, I guess just that they don't stand out as spectacular to me. So while 500 other people are rating them good or excellent, I'm not. That's all.


Also - I have found my answer to the Editor's Choice badge question in the Chat Boards. Disregard post somewhere above


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#482619 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:01 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I agree GG - another example of 'one mans meat is another mans poison"

But isn't that just one of the great things about this site - there is something for EVERYONE
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#482620 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:02 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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See Terry's News note on the Editor's Choice badge. You only need one now. Congratulations!

How about a token amount of points to authors based on weekly or monthly play of their quizzes? Say 5 or 10 points per valid play. Points could be added weekly or monthly to the author's total. This would be like royalties on books. True it would reward authors for writing quizzes in 'popular' topics, but that is the way life works. A limit could be put on total royalties from any given quiz if you wanted to control the popularity effect. Comments?

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#482621 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:27 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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What has just occurred to me re: Wesley's "editor rating the quiz as it goes online" thing is, the author (and everyone else come to think of it, via the Buzz) knows which editor has placed the quiz online. Thus an author who didn't then get the points, is going to know that that particular editor rated their quiz as "undeserving". Leaves the poor editors wide open to um, dare I say abuse...as though they don't get enough flak sometimes...
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