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#482622 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:33 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
salami_swami Offline
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The problem with awarding 10 points a play is that some will get 2,000 plays, and that is 20,000 points for a single play. In just two weeks, three or four of mine had over 2,000 plays. Granted, most are from guests. But even the divided by three thingamajig in play, a single quiz can be played 10,000 times, and get 100,000 points for a single quiz? I don't think that is such a good idea.
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#482623 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:37 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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As for the thing about having it max out with 5 or 6 quizzes a month...

Some players get more than that a month, and I have already mentioned several, and sorry, darksplash, forgot to add him there, but anyway...

One player, although it is only the 9th, already has 12 quizzes out this month alone. :-)
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#482624 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:44 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Wow, I'd be lucky to get 12 online in half a year!

As for Brain Teasers, there is always something that can be said. Even if the answer was 'are' in a drop-a-letter quiz, you could write interesting info. Perhaps talk a bit about conjugation and its French counterpart:

je suis
tu es
il est
elle est and so on

If there is no interesting info, I usually give an average - if there is interesting info I tend to be quite generous with my ratings for brain teasers.


Edited by jonnowales (Thu Jul 09 2009 05:45 PM)

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#482625 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:48 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
delboy22 Offline
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It would be a shame to have the 'brakes' put on ANY good author. I am nowhere near as prolific as most, but I did once have 4 online in a single WEEK - and GOOD crosswords I could turn out by the bucket-full!
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#482626 - Thu Jul 09 2009 05:57 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
Rowena8482 Offline
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Why would it "put the brakes on"? People have been writing quizzes for ages, points would be a bonus, not an end in themsleves surely? And if an author did want to write quizzes just to get points, then the cap would be a good thing and do as Terry suggested, by stopping dozens of poor, below par submissions, dashed off in half an hour in the hope of a few points gained.
I hardly think a good author is going to stop and say "ooo I will get some points if I leave this quiz, on which I have lavished care and time and attention, here for three weeks until the beginning of next month". They're more likely to submit the quiz and toddle off and play a couple of hourlies and a couple of quizzes and score some points that way...
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#482627 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:00 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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<< How about a token amount of points to authors based on weekly or monthly play of their quizzes? Say 5 or 10 points per valid play. Points could be added weekly or monthly to the author's total. This would be like royalties on books. True it would reward authors for writing quizzes in 'popular' topics, but that is the way life works. A limit could be put on total royalties from any given quiz if you wanted to control the popularity effect. Comments? >>

No, we do not want to push people to write "popular" quizzes, otherwise we'll have nothing but Harry Potter and Movie Quotes. Dangerous suggestion!

I think what I've proposed above is fairly balanced. It offers "some points" for creating quizzes that the author wants to create.

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#482628 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:02 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
Terry Offline
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<< Why would it "put the brakes on"? >>

Actually, I am considering increasing the "eligible quizzes per month" a bit for our very top authors, just as we currently allow them to have more quizzes submitted at a time than most players. I have nothing wrong with a little favoritism when it comes to those few authors who submit quality stuff consistently.


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#482629 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:05 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
delboy22 Offline
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I agree Row - but there ARE some excellent and VERY prolific authors who are capable of writing 10 or more GOOD quizzes in a month. I agree, the gaining of points should NEVER be a consideration in 'banging out a quiz' - but if an author is capable of 7 or more quality quizzes in a month, why shouldn't they get the points - which they no doubt would consider a 'bonus' for their amazing dedication to the site

Edit - posted before seeing Terrys post


Edited by delboy22 (Thu Jul 09 2009 06:06 PM)
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#482630 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:39 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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#482631 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:40 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
JuniorTheJaws Offline
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With due respect GG, as you have some excellent quizzes online - you are not a prolific author of Braintwists - other than the odd 'fractured words' quiz.

Your forté, like Kyle, lies elsewhere.
My forté is writing Braintwists.

The quizzes of both yourself and Kyle cannot compare to Braintwists - they require totally different skills.




I find this sort of post condescending, as if GG's and Kyle's quizzes are not good enough because they are not Brain Teaser type quizzes.

GG creates and has some excellent quizzes online. Her quizzes are a joy to play.

Kyle's quizzes are of course and without a doubt exemplary, otherwise he would not have been selected to be part of the Editing Staff.

Those sort of comments quoted above are uncalled for and quite disturbing, as if you are saying only Brain Teaser type quizzes have merit.

That is totally unfair to Terry, his staff, and the quiz authors that work very hard to make this site enjoyable.
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#482632 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:44 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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No Agnes I am most certainly NOT saying that............Please READ my post! I am simply saying that they require different skills!

I give up ............
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#482633 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:48 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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No Agnes I am most certainly NOT saying that............Please READ my post! I am simply saying that they require different skills!

I give up ............




No matter how many times I read and re-read it, I still come away with the same sour taste in my mouth.

I read your post far too many times, and had to stop because no matter how you slice it, it still comes across as condescending and downright mean.
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#482634 - Thu Jul 09 2009 06:56 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Ever written a brain-teaser quiz kyleisalive?




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Are either 'types' of quiz any less, or any more, deserving of recognition in the sunglasses club?




Actually, I have. It's rated #2432, and like always, I used ample amounts of interesting information and took a spin on a brain teaser I personally enjoy making and taking. I've written and edited a fair number of brain teasers/wordplay quizzes in the Video Games category as well, and I assure you, there was a reason why I restricted it more than two years ago.

http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/BrainTeasers/Board-Games-In-Other-Words-306109.html


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Your forté, like Kyle, lies elsewhere.
My forté is writing Braintwists.

The quizzes of both yourself and Kyle cannot compare to Braintwists - they require totally different skills.




My forte, in personal opinion, is writing quizzes. I've written one quiz in the Brain Teasers category and another ten in Video Games for the Wordplay category. I have another in Music and Movies nearly ready to submit. Unfortunately, the coding only takes from Brain Teasers, otherwise I'm sure you should have come across these in your Brain Twist game.
It's my forte to write the questions you guys play rather than play them, but that's just me. Unfortunately, my other 800 quizzes don't match up to that quality though. To each his own.
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#482635 - Thu Jul 09 2009 07:02 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
Terry Offline
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<<
With due respect GG, as you have some excellent quizzes online - you are not a prolific author of Braintwists - other than the odd 'fractured words' quiz.
Your forté, like Kyle, lies elsewhere. >>

Why would you take time out of your day to post this? What possible gain could it have?

When ever, in your life, EVER, has it been to your advantage to say a sentence including words like "You are not a prolific author of..." and "Your forte lies elsewhere" ? Who are YOU to tell someone else where THEIR forte lies?

Do you get tactile pleasure out of pressing the keys on your keyboard? Because frankly, all I'm reading here is one train wreck of a post after another coming from you.

Never before have I seen someone attempt to insert so many feet in one's mouth.

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#482636 - Thu Jul 09 2009 07:06 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I am simply saying that they require different skills!




Really? I thought that is why FT has guidelines and editors, to assist when quiz authors do not fully understand the guidelines for specific categories?

I, too, have a brain teaser quiz...Fractured Dog Breeds. I have received numerous compliments on that quiz. It is ranked 23798.

I would love to know exactly what skills are required?
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#482637 - Thu Jul 09 2009 07:44 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I give up ............



Please do, and stick to playing or writing quizzes.
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#482638 - Thu Jul 09 2009 07:45 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
cag1970 Offline
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Picking up points for quiz writing would be nice indeed! It would be good to get that recognition, but I agree with Terry--it's definitely to no one's benefit if people start submitting sub-par quizzes in the quest for points.

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#482639 - Thu Jul 09 2009 08:14 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Terry:
The points for quizzes are a great idea and very much appreciated no matter how you want to distribute them. Although that's not my reasson for posting them, it's a nice perk. I usualy post between 5 and 10 quizzes per month. I have 118 on line and about 70% of them are in the sunglasses category. If people just take the time and follow the guidelines that have been set up, there shouldn't be a problem. Also, its important to accept the editor's assistance with changes and corrections. That can only help to create a better quiz, and now, also help earn points. Thanks again.

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#482640 - Thu Jul 09 2009 08:40 PM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I've just been trying to figure out a way to compress my daily 5-6 hours of FT into 1 hour since I've graduated from being a student to a full time employee. All these new changes are making it almost impossible and I've even had a couple of meals in front of the computer while playing the quizzes. Thanks for making the site such a fun place, Terry. And the Editor's Choice badge was a great surprise.
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#482641 - Fri Jul 10 2009 12:19 AM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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A well-crafted quiz is a testament to the author's skill, regardless of category.
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#482642 - Fri Jul 10 2009 02:46 AM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
ing Offline
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*sticks head above parapet to see if coast is clear*

I'm firmly in the 'would write quizzes anyway, don't need points camp', but it's always nice to get something for nothing - ta!

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#482643 - Fri Jul 10 2009 04:48 AM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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I have only 8 quizzes on line , 3 with sunnies and a couple not that far out but have been the recipient of a dreaded green screen which was well deserved but innocently achieved. I am much encouraged that authors like swami salami have also been green screen receivers! I really felt terribly bad when I received one (plagiarism!) as I had researched the question many weeks before submitting the quiz and just hadn't realised how close to the mark it was. I haven't submitted a quiz since, as felt I had a really bad mark against my name. I will try again now though as I've realised I am not an isolated case and that the editors do get past previous mistakesand even authors who I respect quality wise have received a green screen to. Hail to this forum!

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#482644 - Fri Jul 10 2009 05:22 AM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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The points will be a great bonus but I don't think it will match the thrill of getting the notice that one of my quizzes has gone online!

I think all the recent focus on the authoring of quizzes is great! Thankyou.
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#482645 - Fri Jul 10 2009 05:24 AM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Contrary to what is thought the editing staff does not hold grudges, we do not take "things" out on quiz authors. That is just not what we are about.

We are here for the same reason everyone else is...we love this site!

The editing staff is here to offer assistance. However, the quality of the quizzes matters tremendously. We never intentionally want a quiz author to stop creating and submiting quizzes, that is not what we are about.

However, with that being said, the editing staff are not mind readers and if a quiz author has a dilemma or a particular question, we are happy to help, but if we do not know that the quiz author is having problems, then we cannot possibly help.

As far as the "green screen" is concerned, I have seen quiz authors that have had a green screen for a long time, and still continue to create and submit.

In fact, in some instances I do believe the green screen has been helpful, as most strive so hard to rid themselves of it.

Therefore, their quizzes become better, and they eventually lose the "green screen".

To me, as an editor, I consider the "green screen" a learning tool for quiz authors. I completely understand that seeing that screen is not fun at all, but it does, in my opinion, get the point across to quiz authors.
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#482646 - Fri Jul 10 2009 06:29 AM Re: Points for Authoring Quizzes Coming
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Agnes I agree with you..I just lost confidence in myself there for a while as I really try with my quizzes and was absolutely gutted that I could have made such a dreadful error before submitting.The Editor was Stuthehistoryguy and there is no way anyone could fault him in quiz making or editing so I have just taken a break in submitting to make absolutely sure before I next submit. Editors are what make this site really fabulous and I am just really happy to know that I am not the only one (so early in my quizmaking mode) to have been " caught out" so to speak. It says volumes for this site that quizzes are looked at so thoroughly and that is what sets this site apart from all the others on offer.
Look forward to submitting some newies ssoon.

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