#483872 - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:59 PM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Prolific
Registered: Tue Feb 25 2003
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Loc: Outer Sydney NSW Australia
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Is this the kind of question you would wish your wife or servants to read?
ROFLMAO! I consider this a serious topic and worthy of discussion. I just can't believe that the contribution above went by without any comment at all!
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#483874 - Mon Jul 13 2009 05:30 PM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Administrator
Registered: Sat Mar 29 2003
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Loc: Western Canada
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I'm the editor who put that one online. I thought about it, decided teh subject was being dealt with in a responsible way, and made a judgement call. As Terry said, the fact that the issue has been raised shows that my judgement was wrong, and the question has been taken off.
We have quizzes on human sexuality online, as well as quizzes on books that deal with sexuality. Our guideline has to be whether we think the subject is intended to shock, or if it's taken more seriously. As different editors will draw the line in different places, and, as has been pointed out, players will also draw lines differently, sometimes problems will arise.
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#483875 - Mon Jul 13 2009 05:44 PM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Mainstay
Registered: Sat Nov 03 2007
Posts: 506
Loc: Tyrone Northern Ireland UK
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"You should try sitting in a Pub in South Wales discussing who is/was the best ever Welsh Rugby Union player!
For me it was Gareth Edwards, with Mervyn Davis a close second"
Now look delboyo, I may be Irish, but even I know that the greatest ever Welsh Rugby Union player was the King - Barry John.
*Runs away to hide behind the Giant's Causeway, nonchalantly munching on some potato bread*
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#483876 - Mon Jul 13 2009 05:55 PM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Multiloquent
Registered: Tue Jul 04 2006
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I'll reiterate that I find nothing wrong with the question, including the "molten" answer option. Unless someone has experienced what is being talked about, that description will not evoke anything. And if they have, then there is no big deal. The description is archaic and flowery. It is about a literary work, I don't find it questionable or offensive. Nevertheless, I accept that anyone can disagree with my opinion on this or any other matter.
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#483877 - Mon Jul 13 2009 06:33 PM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Registered: Thu Nov 20 2008
Posts: 1313
Loc: New York City USA
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As the mother of two teens (one of each), I find the molten option inappropriate, but the rest of the question would be perfectly O.K. It's literature, and I have never banned any well-known book from my children's perusal. The 'molten' could have been substituted with another one-word option, and the question would have been perfectly acceptable. We are talking about well-known literature, and a well-known bodily function. Edited because I can't type, nor can I spell 
Edited by postcards2go (Mon Jul 13 2009 06:37 PM)
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#483881 - Tue Jul 14 2009 03:49 AM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Prolific
Registered: Wed Mar 30 2005
Posts: 1636
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia
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Aggers, thank you for holding your hand up as the Ed who put the Q online. I didn't think for a second that you (or any other Ed) passed it through without consideration, and knew that your decision was made in accordance with understood guidelines. It's to get to these guidelines, to start a discussion, that I posted this thread in the first place! It is perhaps unfortunate that it all focused on one question, when the issue is obviously a much wider one, and I am truly sorry if you (or the writer of the Q, who was not someone known to me) feel in any way singled out. However, an example is always a good way to start a discussion, and, as has been borne out, the issue is something people feel strongly about. Given this level of feeling, may I also add that I am heartened that both this thread and the one on humour in the Authors' Lounge (which I also kinda started...ahem) have been carried out so rationally and at such a high level of maturity. As Del said above, this is unusual on the internet (or anywhere else for that matter), and I do think we should all feel proud of ourselves for managing it. If that sounds in any way patronising, I plead the inadequacies of the written form of the language... 
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#483882 - Tue Jul 14 2009 03:52 AM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Enthusiast
Registered: Thu Apr 16 2009
Posts: 203
Loc: Lancashire England UK
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Has this quiz been taken offline? Or has the single question just been removed from the hourly question pool?
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#483884 - Tue Jul 14 2009 05:20 AM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Registered: Mon Apr 22 2002
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Loc: Western Australia
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this is predominantly a site for adults
With respect, I beg to differ. There are many children who access this site. There are many teachers who use FunTrivia as a fun way for children to learn. There are many adult members who have introduced their children to this site, myself included. Why else would we have a 'For Children' category?
Agony put it exceptionally well when she said "As different editors will draw the line in different places, and, as has been pointed out, players will also draw lines differently, sometimes problems will arise".
I probably would not have put that question online - not because it offended me personally, but because I would have been sure some members would find it objectionable. As an editor, I would prefer to err on the side of caution.
If confronted by a quiz or question that I feel is unsuitable, I do give it a lot of thought before rejecting it, and I usually seek a second opinion from another editor, then I write to the player and explain the reasons why I rejected it.
The rejection, of course, is not a permanent one. If the quiz author is happy to do a little editing, they are welcome to resubmit.
Most quiz authors are very understanding about our family-friendly policy and my personal experience is that it is very rare for them to argue the point. In fact, I usually get a note back saying something like "Yes, I did wonder whether it would be suitable".
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#483886 - Tue Jul 14 2009 05:50 AM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Registered: Wed Mar 30 2005
Posts: 1636
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia
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Has this quiz been taken offline? Or has the single question just been removed from the hourly question pool?
It was only ever a single question, which was written as part of the Question Quest.
baldricksmum I didn't think there was any room for doubt that FT is not a predominately adult site. 'Family-friendly' advice is posted on all forums, message/chat boards, and also in quiz-writing guidelines.
As I said at the start, I went through the decidedly unpleasant experience of having a quiz rejected as (partly) unsuitable, which shows not that there is any issue with the site being 'family-friendly', or that there was anything other than 'professionalism' and courtesy shown by the Ed, but that my own interpretation of just what that means was out of step with others. The unpleasantness was purely because I did think I knew where the lines were, but have had my eyes well and truly opened. So I am engaging in these discussions in order to (hopefully) avoid making mistakes in the future. And if they go some way to preventing other authors and editors (because obviously it isn't fun for them either) going through it, then even better!
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#483889 - Tue Jul 14 2009 11:24 AM
Re: Appropriateness of Questions
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Mainstay
Registered: Sat Jul 17 2004
Posts: 727
Loc: Essex UK
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The site is supposed to be family friendly, but I think it's important to strike a balance between the Osbornes and the Waltons. Incidentally, in some countries the Waltons was heavily censored before being shown.
When I first joined, there was some sort of criteria about making postings/quizzes that you'd be happy for your 13 year old daughter and your 70 year old mother to see. Well, we've all got different ideas about that!
On TV there is supposedly a 9 o'clock watershed, but that doesn't mean can only have Teletubbies before that time.
It's a shame 'that' question had to go, but I do hope that the author has been allowed to keep it in their total count and ratings.
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