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#519731 - Mon Apr 12 2010 04:21 AM 2010 World Cup
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So the World Cup is drawing near and I am getting a little tired of all the publicity! Counting down for 6 years is a little much especially for someone who does not particularly like soccer.
Anyhow it made me start wondering if any of the Funtrivia members, their friends or family will be coming to South Africa for any of the games and if they are where are they staying and which places will they be visiting?
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#519732 - Thu Apr 15 2010 04:29 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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With only 58 days left before the 2010 Fifa World Cup, Fifa's accommodation agent Match has dumped another 300 000 bed nights on the market.

This means that Match now holds only 600 000 of the 1.9 million bed nights it originally reserved for the World Cup.

Brett Dungan, CEO of the Federated Hospitality Association of SA, says it is disappointing.





After spending billions, South Africa thought they were going to make a huge profit on this World Cup Event. Looking at this article from Fin24.com it seems there are going to be a lot of dissapointed businesses.
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#519733 - Fri Apr 16 2010 04:20 PM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Having just booked a holiday in South Africa after the World Cup I think that a lot of people from the Northern Hemisphere have been put off by the cost of the airfares
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#519734 - Sun Apr 18 2010 07:10 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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The airlines almost tripled their fees during the WC period and deserve to loose money. Sadly everyone just wanted to make their fortune at the expense of the fans.

A pity as South Africa is a beautiful country with lots to offer visitors. I hope you have a great time SOTHC.
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#519735 - Sun Apr 18 2010 11:21 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Lady, speaking of putting prices up. I was at the Waterfront in Cape Town last weekend and got charged R14 for a can of coke. I fear we could see prices going up much more come June. It's outrageous and to think the visitors, teams and tourists won't realize they are being over charged.

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#519736 - Mon Apr 19 2010 09:18 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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The most troubling about the increases in prices is that I wonder if they will go down again after the World Cup.

I believe that the hotels have to pay FIFA 40% of the price they charge so they were forced to increase prices. Don't know if this is true or not.
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#519737 - Mon Apr 19 2010 01:43 PM Re: 2010 World Cup
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I certainly hope the prices of every day things will come down after the world cup has left. Tourists paying in euros, pounds and dollars might not notice the high prices but for us living here we're not going to be able to afford those prices.

I read an article about hotels having to pay FIFA but I can't remember where I saw the article.

I'm still also waiting to hear what's going to happen to the new stadium in Cape Town after the world cup. I wouldn't say we host enough big events that would attract a 65 000 strong crowd to bring in enough money to keep it in good working condition.

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#519738 - Wed Jun 09 2010 04:48 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Only 2 days until the forces of nature are inflicted on poor RSA. I wish them good luck. Let's have a thread, just in case someone feels the need to vent

Did someone keep tabs on how many Chelsea and ManU players already are out because of injuries?
Cole, Essien, Ballack, Drogba, Ferdinand, Nani, did I miss someone?

Any thoughts on the Jabulani?
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#519739 - Wed Jun 09 2010 02:32 PM Re: 2010 World Cup
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The new ball, I am not sure, everybody opposes change, but, in the end, it's just a ball. You kick it and it either goes into the net or it doesn't.

Other than that, I look forward to seeing some of the matches, even if it interferes with work. Then again, I may be back home for part of the time so I'll get broadcasts at more convenient times.
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#519740 - Wed Jun 09 2010 03:27 PM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Lady, speaking of putting prices up. I was at the Waterfront in Cape Town last weekend and got charged R14 for a can of coke. I fear we could see prices going up much more come June. It's outrageous and to think the visitors, teams and tourists won't realize they are being over charged.




Just to give me some perspective how much would a can usually cost?

I'm looking forward to it but the time difference will put the games on late at night so I might have to catch the replays ...

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#519741 - Thu Jun 10 2010 12:58 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Copago you would normally expect topay about R6 to R7 for a can, which is already expensive in my book.
Although Bloemfontein is a host city (we have six matches), it's not a major centre like Cape Town or Joburg, so we haven't seen too much in the way of major price increases.

With only a day to go till kickoff there is an incredible atmosphere in the country, yesterday at noon there was a vuvuzela minute that turned into an hour of street festivals across the country. A car without a SA flag somewhere in or on it is rare.
Unfortunately we have heard a couple of reports of crime, a Mexican journo got robbed yesterday, but that could have happened in any country.
Roll on tomorrow!
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#519742 - Thu Jun 10 2010 01:11 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Wow, thanks for the info Studi - they really aren't missing the opportunity! I suppose, sadly, that it is just the norm now at these kinds of big events.

Is anyone going to any of the games?

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#519743 - Thu Jun 10 2010 02:03 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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On the positive side: in a month it'll be all over
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#519744 - Thu Jun 10 2010 05:16 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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I'm not much of a soccer fan, although I am cheering for the USA.

Seeing all the cars with the flags on them is making parking at the shopping mall so much easier when it comes to finding the car again. We try and aim to park between two cars waving flags of other countries. It makes it easier to find the car when it's parked between "Portugal" and "Brazil".

The happy vibe is something I wish would last past July 12th. It's quite nice walking around the shops and everyone is so polite and friendly. There's barely any road rage either.

Oh and I'm definitely going to miss all the air traffic once it's all over. I'm an amateur plane spotter and today already it's been fun. Can't wait for the air force jets to start doing their air patrols from tomorrow. I love the sound of the jets going over. Hopefully I'll get some great photos as well.

I also have to admit it's nice seeing the extra armed security at the shopping malls, makes me feel so much safer and I'm hoping the 41 000 extra police they have employed for this next month will continue to be employed after July 12th.

I think the biggest winners this month are the private bodyguards. I read a report some of them are getting paid R4000 a day. The exchange rate is about $1=R8

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#519745 - Fri Jun 11 2010 01:50 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Another viewpoint; the World Cup from a different angle:
    Quote:

    Lloyd's estimates World Cup insurance coverage at £6.2bn
    Author: Jonathan Swift
    Source: Post | 07 Jun 2010

    The football World Cup will be insured to the tune of an estimated £6.2bn when it kicks off on Friday, according to Lloyd’s. This is broken down into property - £3bn, contingency - £3bn and liability - £200m. Only war has prevented a World Cup taking place since the tournament's inception in 1930.

    A player at the height of his career and playing in one of the top leagues for their country could be insured for £50m, according to Peter Thompson, underwriter at Beazley. Assuming there are no pre-existing conditions, £40m of this insures their entire body for sports disability, including accidental death and permanent total disablement, 24 hours a day.

    And it's not just their antics on the pitch that people are interested in. A player's image can make or break their celebrity status and clubs need to insure their reputation as much as their feet to generate lucrative merchandise sales, Lloyd's added. Dan Trueman, underwriter at Kiln, estimates a footballer's brand to be worth around £10m.

    The stadiums have also been the subject of much scrutiny with major renovations having been carried out on five existing ones, and five new ones being built around South Africa to accommodate the 2.75 million ticket holders. Brian Oxley, insurance manager for the organising committee at FIFA, believes that the combined value for these stadiums and training venues amounts to £3.2bn.

    But it's not just sport that needs to be considered, with businesses around the world heavily involved. Competitions and offers are springing up everywhere and when it comes to contingency, Chris Nash, active underwriter at Sportscover, said there is a vast range of potential coverage: "Competitions, offers, prizes, sponsorship, broadcast rights; it's impossible to know how many there are, but all companies with these financial implications need coverage.

    "When you take this into account along with the number of broadcasters around the world airing the games, I'd probably estimate the whole thing at around £3bn."



http://www.postonline.co.uk/news/world-cup-insurance-coverage-gbp6-2bn

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#519746 - Fri Jun 11 2010 02:11 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Crazy how much of sport is about the money. Has really wrecked sport as a whole, I think.

On another note, I do feel sorry for the South African cricket team who has to play in the West Indies and miss out on the excitement back home. Okay, so the west Indies wouldn't be th eworse place on earth to be but still ...

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#519747 - Fri Jun 11 2010 07:29 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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So what did every think of the opening ceremony? I'm a sucker for those kinds of things and loved it

Isn't is amazing what can be advertised using football? Everything from coke to oil.

I'm not sure if it was a local song or not but anyone in Australia who watched on SBS can you tell me what that first song was .. sort of before it started and it had the people singing in different languages and were singing the chorus "let's go play some football". I can't find it :?

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#519748 - Fri Jun 11 2010 07:46 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op5Trk0gX6g

here's an ad for a local telephone company .. very clever.

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#519749 - Fri Jun 11 2010 11:16 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Missed the opening ceremony. Thought I'd be clever and head to the supermarket and do shopping for the weekend, I was assuming everyone else would be home in front of their TV's or heading into town for the Uruguay vs France match later. However the supermarket was crowded, seems everyone else had the same idea I did. Didn't get home till a few minutes before the kick off the SA vs Mexico match.

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#519750 - Sun Jun 13 2010 05:06 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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I'm not sure if it was a local song or not but anyone in Australia who watched on SBS can you tell me what that first song was .. sort of before it started and it had the people singing in different languages and were singing the chorus "let's go play some football". I can't find it :?




found it .. for your viewing pleasure. Okay, so they aren't brilliant singers but I guess that's probably the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEjc5RkaCrc

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#519751 - Sun Jun 13 2010 05:14 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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I cannot stand those damned monotonous horns
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#519752 - Sun Jun 13 2010 05:19 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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I know, I know.
It was said somewhere that while a few countries complained about them that South Africa asked especially for them since there was some cultural significance.
Funny I don't ever remember them at any Rugby games or cricket games.

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#519753 - Sun Jun 13 2010 05:53 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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And you probably won't after the WC is over either.
Without getting political, the only way I can really explain is that South Africa is, as a consequence of our past, still very divided in terms of sport. The black community is all about soccer and barring some exceptions not so much into rugby and cricket. The vuvuzela is a remnant of the days when soccer was played only in townships and I suppose is still a reminder of the struggle and thus important to many people.
The reverse is obviously true as well, where rugby and cricket are traditionally "white".
Hopefully a lot of these divisions will be broken down with the WC where a lot of people who would never have set foot on a soccer field will, maybe, look at it differently.
In the meantime, you learn to live with the drone and it seems to disappear after a while, lol.
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#519754 - Sun Jun 13 2010 06:04 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Nicely explained - thanks
I switched over to the SA/WI cricket at one time and it was almost laughable how quiet it was there compared to the soccer

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#519755 - Sun Jun 13 2010 11:56 AM Re: 2010 World Cup
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Apparently the Authorities have said that the vuvuzela will be banned if one gets thrown on the pitch. I have heard a rumour that an offer for 4 free tickets to the Chessington World of Adventure has been made to the first person to throw one.
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