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#643449 - Tue Jul 26 2011 09:27 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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This match, although from the third section where relationships can be strained, is simply incorrect.

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food stamp is related to legal tender



You said: supplying

food stamp means "government-issued stamps used in exchange for food"
legal tender means "something used as an official medium of payment"

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In fact (at least in the US), food stamps are non-transferable, and can only be used for obtaining certain eligible food items. A household receives a certain benefit amount, and the government reimburses the retailer for the cost of the foodstuffs obtained with food stamps. It is illegal to use these government benefits to "pay" for anything, making food stamps pretty much the opposite of "legal tender". "Supplying" is an infinitely better match, as the government is, in effect, supplying a benefit to a food stamp recipient. Food stamps are simply not legal tender, as they can not be used to pay a debt (a slight oversimplification of the definition of "legal tender", but close enough).

The other match option, by the way, was "issuing", which can fit without much of an issue with "legal tender". Legal tender is issued every day by governments in the form of currency.

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#643500 - Wed Jul 27 2011 08:36 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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helmsman is related to sea dog

helmsman means "the person who steers a ship"
sea dog means "a man who serves as a sailor"

bargee is related to old salt

bargee means "someone who operates a barge"
old salt means "a man who serves as a sailor"


Aren't sea dog and old salt the same thing?

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#643540 - Wed Jul 27 2011 11:48 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Buddy, according to the definitions used they are indeed interchangeble.
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#643545 - Wed Jul 27 2011 11:59 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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I got those as well, Buddy. For once, I guessed right. It's odd how often these definitions come up in the same question sets.
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#645907 - Mon Aug 08 2011 06:27 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Just been fooled by the link between 'sponger' and 'working person'. Sponger, to me, means exactly the opposite to worker not the same!
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#646438 - Wed Aug 10 2011 05:57 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Rossian, was that pair on the third section of the game? In which case, they are still linked, though not the same. It's akin to, say, "smoking" and "health" being links, but not meaning the same. I do agree with you, though - sponger and worker are complete opposites! That third section can trip you up sometimes, can't it? smile
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#646495 - Thu Aug 11 2011 12:45 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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The actual definition given was 'a worker who collects sponges', which did make a suitable fit - just not in my mind.
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#646521 - Thu Aug 11 2011 06:32 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Originally Posted By: rossian
The actual definition given was 'a worker who collects sponges', which did make a suitable fit - just not in my mind.


That is too funny!

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#646533 - Thu Aug 11 2011 08:34 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Haha, well, that wouldn't be the definition I'd expect :P
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#647211 - Sat Aug 13 2011 01:49 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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deep-six is related to cast aside

You said: cast off

deep-six means "toss out"
cast aside means "throw or cast away"
cast off means "get rid of"

Flip a coin.

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#648474 - Fri Aug 19 2011 04:52 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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I know that this thread is sometimes about venting as much as it is about corrections, but, for the sake of my sanity, can we please not have both "vena" and "venous blood vessel" as choices in the same group? Pretty please?


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#648528 - Sat Aug 20 2011 12:25 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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They were totally interchangeable. When I saw them I shrugged, crossed my fingers and (for once) got them the right way round. The definitions were identical.
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#648564 - Sat Aug 20 2011 10:48 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Regardless of whether a word/definition seems ambiguous or not, the people playing in the same set have the exact same opportunity to get them wrong lol.

In those ??? instances (but not in the case of vena vs blood vessel lol), I often have an "AHA!" moment, as in "I never thought of it that way". It's good for your brain to deviate from linear thinking once in awhile : )
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#648606 - Sat Aug 20 2011 01:05 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Yes, but the smoke coming from those brains will cause an increase in global warmth and Al Gore wouldn't like that. Please, no questions which cause our brains to spontaneously combust.
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#648609 - Sat Aug 20 2011 01:20 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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See Darwin lol.
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#648865 - Sun Aug 21 2011 08:33 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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My issue is not with the fairness of the set, my issue is with the correctness of the answer. There is absolutely no semantic difference between "vena" and "venous blood vessel". Like rossian said, it's a coin flip as to which options the set has matched. 99% of the time, I would agree with you about a seemingly counter-intuitive match prompting a different way of thinking, but there is just nothing like that in these matches.


Edited by abechstein (Sun Aug 21 2011 08:34 PM)

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#648870 - Sun Aug 21 2011 09:21 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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If you re-read my (admittedly flippant) response, you will see that I completely agreed with you on the vena vs venous thing. Definitely not fair. And although we can't necessarily control the dictionary itself at this point (at least as far as I know), I'm sure some sort of written code might someday help with the duplication/similarity/too close for comfort instances : )
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#648871 - Sun Aug 21 2011 09:53 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Sorry -- I should have been more obvious that I was agreeing with you, and just reiterating my frustration with that particular situation. I don't know how easy it would be to keep matches like that from popping up, but I'm all for it.

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#648873 - Sun Aug 21 2011 10:25 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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No worries sir (assuming you're male).


Edited by Jakeroo (Mon Aug 22 2011 04:26 PM)
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#649645 - Thu Aug 25 2011 10:02 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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The results page I got in my Mind Melt game just now was NOT the same quiz that I took. Unfortunately, I can't go back and retrieve the orignal quiz I actually took. As a result, I got stuck with a 4/30 for my team. MM is a crock!
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#649677 - Thu Aug 25 2011 11:55 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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Someone started another thread with this same problem, so it looks like there might be a problem on FT's side?
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#649680 - Thu Aug 25 2011 12:18 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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"I do not recall that connection being offered. The closest I saw on my MM page was in the first section and it was "Mind Melt" matched with "Crook". I found that "Blue Jug" was closest to "Crock"", he said TiC (tongue in cheek). I imagine it's quite a jolt to scroll down the answer page and see all red x's. My heart truly bleeds which can be quite messy and explains why it is kept in a Canopic Jug which matches with reliquary better than crock. Huh? Get this man some Hurricane, Stat. 'been watching that soocker spin for a week coming straight at us in So. Florida. They said later that no, it won't hit us and took off all the tropical storm warnings. We now find ourselves 200 miles off center of a Cat 4 hurricane meaning we're in Cat 1 conditions and what did we get? a removed tropical storm watch! So seeing the page full of red x's must surely feel like seeing the red cone touch your homeland.
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#649777 - Fri Aug 26 2011 01:46 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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"abstracter is related to writer

You said: author

abstracter means "one who makes abstracts or summarizes information"
writer means "writes (books or stories or articles or the like) professionally (for pay)"


ghostwrite is related to author

You said: writer

ghostwrite means "write for someone else"
author means "be the author of""

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It's funny - ghostwrite is "writes for someone else" and writer is "writes professionally", and yet for some reason author was "more correct". Especially since writer/ghostwriter both have writes/writer in their descriptions and author nor abstracter does.

Is it just me or do these two seem like they should be the opposite? The definitions seem to match up better. What do you guys think? :-)

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#649805 - Fri Aug 26 2011 07:01 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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I would probably have matched them up the "right" way because I always think of ghostwriters fronting for authors. I do think they shouldn't be in the same round, however. They are too close for comfort.
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#649834 - Fri Aug 26 2011 09:45 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues
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I wouldn't be inclined to call an abstracter an author so much as a writer, and I also agree with Sue's comparison for the other pair, so I would agree with the original pairings this time, but definitely think they should not appear in the same set!
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