#1035926 - Wed Feb 26 2014 03:46 AM
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I am reading now Descartes' Meditation on First Philosophy.
I was a little surprised days ago when I opened the front cover to see that I only paid a dollar for it. In my town, we have four major book fairs every year run by two non-profits (one being the local library). They are held two in the Spring, two in the Summer. At the last one I went to, I was surprised how much philosophy they had. I got around a dozen books. (All last year combined I probably purchased 80 books).
But we do not live in a philosophical town. No, it seems all the Nietzsches, Descartes, and Kants, probably reached their last stop at that fair. They were selling variously for a dollar or two each.
In contrast, my college textbooks ran anywhere from around $60 to in one case over $200. I promise, when I get a chance to do it over again, things will go a lot differently. For one, I won't buy books.. I will look everything up on the internet. For one, I never should have had to pay $500 for boks my professors knew in advance they wouldn't even read out of. Am I calling higher education, or even education in general, a fraud? I think it's not far off the mark.
But the original point I'm getting to, is I paid a dollar for a book, that will probably offer me intensely more pleasure, but more importantly, insight and learning, than even all of those college books combined. And it only cost a buck.
And then an even better point I just realized... I budgeted probably around $200 on books all last year. I am confident, I have more to show out of that $200 than a great deal of students graduating out of a master's program.
Some of you are wondering what my point is in this post. I suppose if I had to put it in just a couple words... I would say education is something you have to do for yourself. And your heart isn't always in official studies. It may take a person quietly in solitude contemplating meaning and mission, before they can really go back out into the world and become a really amazing person. I was a youth who had no purpose. There was nothing I wanted to do. When I went to college, I still had no purpose. I guess when I think over that last line, I still don't have a meaning. But it's not through deprivation, it's simply I haven't found one yet. But I'm studying the classics and I think this makes me a unique person and someone who can eventually do great things.
Or this post might also have noted... The Gradual Decline of Western Civilization... and Descartes for a dollar. (Why should Descartes be going for a dollar? He's shaped the face of the Western world. Yet people are stampeding over others to get to the electronics section in Wal-Mart on Black Friday.)
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#1035936 - Wed Feb 26 2014 07:47 AM
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Lol! Yet people are stampeding over others to get to the electronics section in Wal-Mart on Black Friday. I like your thinking!
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#1035964 - Wed Feb 26 2014 05:00 PM
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I would say education is something you have to do for yourself. And your heart isn't always in official studies. It may take a person quietly in solitude contemplating meaning and mission, before they can really go back out into the world and become a really amazing person. I was a youth who had no purpose. There was nothing I wanted to do. When I went to college, I still had no purpose. I agree that education is something you have to do for yourself, in the sense that the motivation to learn must come from within. I don't agree that it can't take place in an institution of higher learning. I went to college right out of high school, because that was what you were "supposed" to do. I completely wasted, education-wise, a year in an excellent private college--not because there was anything wrong with the school, but because furthering my education was not my priority at the time. I was far more focused on the bliss of being out from under the crushing parental thumb for the first time in my life. I learned quite a lot that year, but not what the college was trying to teach, since I had no interest in the subject matter and attended class only sporadically. After that I quit, moved into an apartment with a friend, and began working a series of odd jobs. I wrapped gifts in a department store, worked in an office (where I discovered that office work is NOT for me), and even pumped gas. Finally, I fell into education by accident when I needed a job and a guy I was dating who worked at the Georgia Retardation Center told me he could get me one. Bang! I'd found my calling, without ever in my life having considered teaching as a career. After a few years as a teacher assistant, I decided that yes, this WAS what I wanted to do for a living, so now I needed to get a degree so that I could earn a living wage at it. I went back to school, and the experience was entirely different. Classes that would have held no appeal for me a few years earlier were now interesting to me, even those not in my subject area. Who knew that I would ever enjoy Math, for example? My experience as a T.A. was of great help with all my Education courses. I ended up with very good grades, and a B.S. and Master's Degree. And a career where I was fulfilled and could change lives for the better. My second school wasn't "better" than my first. The change needed for success and satisfaction had taken place within me. The education was there all along; I just needed to be ready to receive it.
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#1035995 - Wed Feb 26 2014 08:18 PM
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Thanks , but please do not take this discussion, titled "What are you Reading?" any further away from its theme. The next post should be about books, not education . Feel free to start a thread in another forum on this subject.
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#1036721 - Wed Mar 05 2014 01:19 AM
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I've just started reading "The Cold Six Thousand" by James Ellroy. I once started reading this about 10 years ago but then left it on top of a taxi when on holiday in Malaysia. Now I intend to finish it. It has been a few years since I read an Ellroy novel so I'm having to re-adjust to his brutal style of writing but I'm beginning to enjoy it again.
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#1036734 - Wed Mar 05 2014 03:50 AM
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I wonder if the Taxi driver enjoyed it ! Lol! Welcome to books!
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#1037273 - Sun Mar 09 2014 09:36 AM
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"Guilt" by Jonathan Kellerman After reading "The Book of Negroes" (which I highly recommend) and J.K. Rowling's latest offering (which I do not) I have returned to my first love, the murder-mystery.
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#1037502 - Tue Mar 11 2014 08:01 PM
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I recently read both "A Street Cat Named Bob" and "The World According to Bob" by James Bowen. Some may be familiar with their story, I was not before reading the books. The story is a pretty good one about love, companionship, loss and happiness. They kind of run the full gamut of emotions. I think they are books for just about anyone and just about anyone can take something away from the story.
Bowen is a street busker in London and a recovering heroin addict, who comes across a scrawny, starving, injured cat he calls Bob. The first book "A Street Cat" details their meeting, getting to know each other and struggles they both encounter on the streets of London. The second book covers their rise to popularity and fame both locally in London and globally. Both are highly recommended.
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#1037573 - Wed Mar 12 2014 11:02 AM
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I picked up a book yesterday and started reading it this morning. I've only made it in a few pages, but wow! (That's really all I can say).
The book is titled God Loves Ugly & Love Makes Beautiful by Christa Black. Having known her personally and seeing it posted on her website, I wanted to get a copy of it (she and I graduated high school together in a smaller city in west Texas).
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#1038066 - Sat Mar 15 2014 08:13 PM
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Lately I've been reading the novels of Sophie Hannah. She writes crime fiction, to a formula, but it's not like any other formula out there I've encountered.
Her series novels all have two narrative streams - a first person narrative by someone who seems to be a little deranged, and not necessarily a reliable narrator, and a third person bit set among the local police who are, quite frankly, sometimes more than a little eccentric themselves. Something completely inexplicable is going on, that doesn't seem to make any sense, and we can't quite tell who to trust. It's not always clear whether there has been a crime committed, or what that crime might be. Even when I've got a fairly good guess whodunnit, it's seldom clear what they did and more importantly why, until nearly the very end. She's very interested in the effects that various types of trauma have on behaviour - although many people in the books appear to behave very oddly, there's always a good reason for it, once you know everything.
I've been reading the books out of order, and that adds to the "what the heck is going on here" quality, as the various members of the police department have quite the soap opera going on among themselves.
Recommended, if you like readable detective fiction with a little something different.
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#1038077 - Sun Mar 16 2014 02:41 AM
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Wow! By an amazing coincidence, all the books I got from a recent Book Depository Sale day arrived this week and one of them is "Kind of Cruel" by Sophie Hannah. It looked good anyway from the blurb and the fact that it won an award, but I am really looking forward to it after reading what you say Agony Thanks.
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#1038970 - Sun Mar 23 2014 06:43 PM
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Yes it took me ages to find head or tail, but I think I am into it now! Thanks for the warning, I might have given up.
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#1039487 - Thu Mar 27 2014 07:21 AM
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Just finished "Guilt" by Kellerman.
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#1041599 - Sat Apr 12 2014 04:45 PM
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"Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" - Hunter S. Thompson I finally got around to reading this and enjoyed it very much. I saw the movie a long time ago so didn't really remember much of it, but knew I liked it. I don't know if Thompson's other works are similar in writing style, but if so and anyone has recommendations that are similar to Loathing, I'd be keen to hear them. "We can't stop here! This is bat country!" 
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#1041604 - Sat Apr 12 2014 05:40 PM
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Thanks agony. It seemed that "Hell's Angels..." was well regarded during the little research I did. I'll have to check that one and the other Loathing book out.
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#1043030 - Wed Apr 23 2014 12:01 PM
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An edition of Ben Franklin's "Poor Richard's Almanac" illustrated by Norman Rockwell.
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