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#65012 - Sat Jan 20 2001 06:04 AM SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
Sypher Offline
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Big Congrats go to Baglady on a hard fought battle won against gtho4.

Hopefully there will be more players this week and if anyone has got any suggestions for topics that haven't been done yet....


PLEASE !! Post them here !! BTW...The Players Choice week restarts in a week and the roster will start again. Sorry, if you haven't been picked yet (just let me know) as I can't remember who has done what !! lol

So put on your hiking boots, grap your rope and jump off a mountain !!

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#65013 - Sat Jan 20 2001 06:06 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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hey GreekLady, you had it in the Bag!
congratulatons ma'am

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#65014 - Mon Jan 22 2001 10:40 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
chelseabelle Offline
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Congratulations, BagLady! Good job!

Sypher--It's Chinese New Year. Has ren told you that this is the Year Of The Snake?

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#65015 - Mon Jan 22 2001 01:08 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Big Congrats, BagLady!


Ok, I think I“m back in this week...yay!


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#65016 - Mon Jan 22 2001 02:35 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Congrats, Baglady! Couldn't have happened to a nicer player, unless it was any of the other nice players, about whom I would say the same thing!!!!
I'm gonna try to play now - off BL's "Y" if that's ok. I know there's folks in the timeslot thread, but none of them played last week, so I'll see if I can sneak in. OK??

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#65017 - Tue Jan 23 2001 05:58 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Sypher - You took away four points from my entry for the word "Hill". In your rules yoou stated the following:

2. The Following words will not count as points....But please bracket them in your entry>>>>>>>>>

Mountains, Range, Alps

Hill is not listed. Also, mountains are named "Hill" when they are obviously not a hill, but a mountain.

Will you be taking away the points for the names/words Peak, Butte, Bluff, Knob, Mount, Ridge, Crest and Point?

[This message has been edited by Sagebrush (edited 01-23-2001).]

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#65018 - Tue Jan 23 2001 07:33 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Yep, I guess I will be taking those points away as well....

I didn't know all of the decriptive terms but thanks for pointing those out...

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#65019 - Tue Jan 23 2001 09:35 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Well, I hope everybody appreciates my rounding out the curve. Do I have to be dead last in both games???? This calls for drastic action!!!

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#65020 - Tue Jan 23 2001 01:26 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Sypher - I don't agree that those parts of the names should be dicounted if it is their name. If it can be proven as part of the name, it should be allowed.

What are you gonna do about foreign names that have these words in them? Unless you know the language, you won't know what the words refer to.

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#65021 - Tue Jan 23 2001 03:53 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Sypher...I have to agree with Sage on this one.

If the name of a mountain is Pike's Peak for example, that is its name....Peak isn't an identifer, it's the actual name of the place.

The same would go for Mount Whatever....'Mount' is part of the actual name. Mount Fuji is the highest mountain in Japan and that's its name...not Mount Fuji Mountain or Fuji Mountain.

Your entry of Annamese Cordillera is a good example. A cordillera is a chain of mountains or mountain ranges, but it is also the name of that particular range.

Sage's entry of Zehner Hill should be kept in its entirety because, again, it's the actual name, and considering it's approx. 3,000 ft., it's certainly not a 'hill'.

Thanks for reading....

BL

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#65022 - Tue Jan 23 2001 04:46 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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I agree with Sage & BagLady too.
........(btw- Congratulations BL )

When it's part of the name, it should be counted....so I guess majority rules...are you gonna cave in?? hehehe <~:-)

PinHill,mount,knob,bluff,dome,etc. Muaaahahaha

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#65023 - Wed Jan 24 2001 12:52 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Happy New Year of the Snake all Snake People!!!

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#65024 - Wed Jan 24 2001 01:46 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Ren, that“s got to be one of the cutest things I“ve ever seen!

Happy New (Snake) Year to you too!!!


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#65025 - Wed Jan 24 2001 02:12 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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#65026 - Wed Jan 24 2001 02:32 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
Sypher Offline
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Damn, I hate it when everyone gangs up.....

How about this for a comprimise....Points will be added for the appropriate wording but you can still follow on with the last letter of the previous word just as if the word didn't count...


Did that make sense ?

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#65027 - Wed Jan 24 2001 03:24 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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OH MY LORD, I GIVE UP!!! CAN WE JUST DECLARE BAGLADY THE WINNER NOW AND START A NEW GAME????
A poor little country girl doesn't stand a chance in this competition. I'm going back to the pizza... Unless you guys are all playing that too????

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#65028 - Wed Jan 24 2001 04:50 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Sypher--I don't know how precise you want to be with this week's topic, but BagLady's entry--identified as "Highlands" ---is neither a specific mountain or a particular mountain range. Highlands are mountainous (or hilly) areas of a country. That is not the same as a specific mountain range.
What are your parameters for this topic?
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#65029 - Wed Jan 24 2001 07:47 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Well I'm gonna challenge BagLady's entry for today. The 'Qinghai-Xizang' is a plateau in the Tibetan Highlands.

I can find no reference to support 'Tibetan-Qinghai-Xizang Highlands'.

As far as I can tell, they're two separate things; the plateau is in the highlands.

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#65030 - Thu Jan 25 2001 02:22 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Until Baglady has a chanced to Defend herself.....I can't say which way the points will go...

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#65031 - Thu Jan 25 2001 07:09 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Sypher--I was asking you to define this week's topic a little more clearly. Are only specific mountains and mountain ranges acceptable (excluding areas defined as Highlands)?
And what was your final call on whether the words "mountain", "range", "peak", etc. count in the entry?
I am confused at this point. I don't
know which letter from ren32 I should use to start my entry.

With regard to Pinhead's challenge of the "plateau" description of BL's entry--a plateau is a flat area. So, how could a mountain also be a flat area? Sounds like BG's entry is a flat area in an otherwise mountainous region--but that doesn't make it either a specific mountain or a particular mountain range.

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#65032 - Thu Jan 25 2001 02:07 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Hi Sypher....sorry this took so long, but I got really tied up this morning.

RE: My entry of Tibetan-Qinghai-Xizang Highlands


First, some 'Mountain Terminology'

MOUNTAIN. A mountain is a landform that rises prominently above its surroundings. It is generally distinguished by steep slopes, a relatively confined summit, and considerable height. The term mountain has topographic and geologic meanings. It generally refers to rises over 2,000 feet (610 meters).

HIGHLANDS: " Meaning of the concept of mountains. Many of the agricultural research institutions have used the term highlands (and not mountains although in some cases the terms highlands and mountains have been used interchangeably), defined by altitudinal delineations."

"The African Highlands Initiative (AHI) defines highlands as land above 1500 meters altitude with an average annual rainfall of at least 1000mm, but has accepted in principle to vary the definition according to one's purpose, perspective and country. For long, the International Livestock Research Institute (ILRI) has principally delineated highlands by using the 1500m criterion and included all land above this altitude regardless of the rainfall because, low rainfall is not considered a limitation to raising livestock as much as for crops."

PLATEAU: "A plateau is distinguished by its flat surface and a mountain by its greatly irregular surface. Most mountains are peaked, but many have flat tops. (plateau....aka Party ledge) A somewhat larger ledge used to rest (and party !) during a particularly hard or long climb. Sometimes used to refer to the belay station on a multipitch climb."

"Plateau mountains occur in series when the folds of a mountain chain pass abruptly into the horizontal strata of a basalt plateau that is largely denuded of trees and eroded." Examples occur in association with major plateaus of the world, such as the Colorado and Tibet plateaus and the Altiplanos of South America.

CORDILLERA: A gigantic system of mountain ranges often consisting of a series of parallel chains.

RANGE: Linear mass of mountains, mountainous land, or a long sequence of mountains belonging to a single geologic unit.

SUMMIT: The top of a mountain or rock.

CB: "Sypher--I don't know how precise you want to be with this week's topic, but BagLady's entry--identified as "Highlands" ---is neither a specific mountain or a particular mountain range. Highlands are mountainous (or hilly) areas of a country. That is not the same as a specific mountain range."

Defense: (See above definition of Highlands)
"Asia's great expanse from the equatorial tropics to the arctic results in a continent of extreme contrasts. Asia contains virtually every kind of natural landscape. Roughly half the continent consists of highlands, and about 8 percent is more than 10,000 feet (3,000 meters) above sea level. Asia's average elevation exceeds that of all the other continents except Antarctica."

PINHEAD: "Well I'm gonna challenge BagLady's entry for today. The 'Qinghai-Xizang' is a plateau in the Tibetan Highlands.
I can find no reference to support 'Tibetan-Qinghai-Xizang Highlands'.

As far as I can tell, they're two separate things; the plateau is in the highlands."

Defense: "Dominating the Asian landscape is the huge Tibetan-Qinghai Highlands, which occupy much of western China. This plateau is the highest and largest in the world. According to some geologists it was created by movements of the Earth's crust between India and Tibet that forced the plateau upward. Geologists say it is still rising.

In the western part of this plateau are the Pamir Mountains, called the Roof of the World, where China, Tajikistan, Pakistan, and Afghanistan meet. From this mountain knot, lofty ranges spread outward in many directions. The Hindu Kush runs southwest through Afghanistan. To the northeast extends the Tian Shan. The Karakoram runs southeast and merges into the Himalayas, the highest mountain range in the world. Mount Everest, the tallest peak (29,023 feet; 8,846 meters), is located there, as are the other eight highest peaks of the world. The Himalayas are a favorite challenge for mountain climbers.

The largest area of highlands in Asia thus is connected with the Tibetan plateau. Most of western and northern China, as well as all of Mongolia and much of southern Siberia, is dominated by mountains and plateaus."

"Glaciers distant from the vast arid regions in central Asia, such as those in the Himalaya, Karakoram and south-eastern Tibetan Qinghai-Xizang Plateau, will likely hold the best records detailing the annual variation in the strength of the Indian and Plateau monsoons.

CB "With regard to Pinhead's challenge of the "plateau" description of BL's entry--a plateau is a flat area. So, how could a mountain also be a flat area? Sounds like BG's entry is a flat area in an otherwise mountainous region--but that doesn't make it either a specific mountain or a particular mountain range."

Again, please see above definitions.

It's your call as to the validity of my entry.

Also, the rules of the game indicate that the player must use the last letter of the previous entry, regardless of whether that letter is right or wrong (until you either allow or disallow said letter). Chelseabelle used "W" instead of "N". (Actually from what I can find, the correct spelling of the entry is "Worcestershire Beacon").

Thanks for reading....sorry if this entry is too long!

BL

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#65033 - Thu Jan 25 2001 02:56 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
chelseabelle Offline
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BagLady--even according to the definitions you gave, "Highlands" are neither a specific mountain range or a particular mountain ---they really are a mountainous area which can include mountain ranges and many mountains. That's why I asked Sypher to clarify what is allowed in this week's category--but he hasn't responded yet.

As for why my entry of today began with a "w" ---that's the letter Sypher advised me to go with. I do not believe that the word "Mountains" will count in ren's entry.

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#65034 - Thu Jan 25 2001 03:52 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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As usual, I can always rely on you guys finding such a problem when I thought none could exist....but don't worry...that is what makes the game slightly interesting !!

First...Baglady - The letter with which Chelsea started with after Ren's entry today is allowed as she had PM'd me asking what to start with. Mountains has always been an invalid pointage word.

Second...Baglady - Thank you for your long post and explanation. I can see where you are coming from with this entry but I also can see where the other two are coming from. Highlands will not count for points as this is a decriptive term.
As for whether the entry is valid...You have defended it well and it will stand. CB wont lose any points for her challenge as Highlands is an invalid word for points. Pinhead loses the challenge on whether you entire entry was valid or not. Sorry Pinhead

Scores will be amended tomorrow.....

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#65035 - Thu Jan 25 2001 04:07 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Stop complaining Sypher or I'll join in.

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#65036 - Thu Jan 25 2001 04:33 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 54 - Vertical Limits
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Sypher--I really don't understand your reasoning about BagLady's entry. "Highlands" are not a mountain range (although they may include a mountain range) and they are not a mountain--they are an elevated region of a country. Would you accept the Scottish Highlands as a valid entry?

I do believe that my entry for today is misspelled because it contains a typo.

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