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#65488 - Sat Feb 03 2001 09:34 AM SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Congrats on a fantastic win for Baglady, who makes the first person to ever win 3 weeks in a row....WTG Girl !!

BTW...Player's Choice will return at the start of next month....Be prepared !!

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#65489 - Sat Feb 03 2001 11:49 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Atta girl Baglady. You are on FIRE!
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#65490 - Sun Feb 04 2001 12:18 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Thanks you guys! That was a close one! Mama would've had it by 2 points, if I hadn't gotten the extra 10 points for Sypher's repeat....just lucky!

Just wanted to let you know that we're taking a "mini" holiday. (Thought we deserved to celebrate and spend my Snake winnings at The Casino....lol) We'll be back Monday night and I'll be posting sometime before midnight (I hope).

BL

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#65491 - Sat Feb 03 2001 04:38 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Well we tried, but she´s
unstoppable LOL...CONGRATULATIONS BAGLADY!!!

I will be out for next week´s game, hopefully relaxing and catching some sun far away from a computer, but will be back the following week. If anyone needs my timeslot, it´s alright by me. Have fun everyone!

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#65492 - Mon Feb 05 2001 07:28 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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I don't know if it needs explanation, but my entry refers to these performers actually being seen in motion.
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#65493 - Mon Feb 05 2001 07:40 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Chelseabelle....I challenge your entry due to the fact the rules state ' NO Decriptive terms'

Somersaulting is a decriptive term.

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#65494 - Mon Feb 05 2001 07:55 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Sypher, "Shetland" is a descriptive term (it describes a type of pony), and you used it in your entry. "Yellow" in Sage's entry is descriptive. Both words preceding "riders" in ren's entry are descriptive. Because you used a descriptive term, and you also did not challenge the two entries which followed yours, I contend that my entry is quite valid. I am, right now, quite confused by what you mean by descriptive. But, based on all the entries thus far, so is everyone else

It would really be much easier--on everyone--if you defined the category better before the game started.

I contend my entry is valid because one, indeed, does see somersaulting trapeze performers in a circus---they are, in fact, a much more quintessential feature of a circus than is a shetland pony.

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#65495 - Mon Feb 05 2001 08:01 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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You know what....You are absolutely right !! Maybe decriptive term should mean 'NO VERBS'

Fine....the challenge will slide due to confusion of rules !!

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#65496 - Mon Feb 05 2001 08:13 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Thank you, Sypher, that is very fair.

But,Sypher, maybe you should clarify the topic/category even more. Suppose my entry had been, "Overtired Blonde Children", would that have been valid? I am still not exactly clear on what you mean by descriptive. Do you want to eliminate other types of entries besides verbs.

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#65497 - Mon Feb 05 2001 08:21 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Do you remember that time when we don types of clothing and someone put an entry of 'Leopard skin, tight fitting, ski pants'

I would like to avoid these kind of entries. As for screeming or tired kids...Nope...these are not found in a circus.

Audiences - don't count.

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#65498 - Mon Feb 05 2001 09:09 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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I remember that clothing game well, Sypher . Maybe you should limit the number of adjectives allowed in an entry

And, another suggestion--maybe the entry should be something that is commonly found in a circus, or something that is found in pretty much all circuses. Then you won't get an entry which is found only in one small circus in rural Bulgaria

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#65499 - Mon Feb 05 2001 09:23 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Shall we say One Adjective ?
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#65500 - Mon Feb 05 2001 10:08 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Oh Mama, Mama! I'm sorry but it's spelled thunderous, not thundrous.
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#65501 - Mon Feb 05 2001 10:14 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Excellent catch, Partsdude!!!! I don't know what I was thinking!!!
So much for giving Baglady a run for her money this week!!!!!
BTW, Congrats, BL!!! But I'll get you my pretty, and your little dog too!

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#65502 - Mon Feb 05 2001 10:18 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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PARTSDUDE your "tumbling" is a verb, isn't it?

Sypher--It would be better if you put all the rules and revisions in the initial game post.

I question the use of "family" in Mama's entry--the pachaderms in a circus are not necessarily related and generally are not related--and they are usually adult elephants. Unless Mama is talking about that circus in Bulgaria
And, even correctly spelled, I would question the use of "thunderous"--circus elephants aren't rampaging --they walk slowly and fairly quietly (well, quietly for elephants ). Thunderous doesn't seem appropriate at all.

[This message has been edited by chelseabelle (edited 02-05-2001).]

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#65503 - Mon Feb 05 2001 10:38 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Sypher - CB's entry should not be allowed as valid. Neither should the "thunderous" or "tumbling". They are all descriptive. Shetland is a type of pony and Yellow is a certain color. There is a difference!
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#65504 - Mon Feb 05 2001 10:41 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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I yi yi! It looks like you've got your work cut out for you Sypher! I thought since CB's entry was OK'd, that tumbling would be OK too.
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#65505 - Mon Feb 05 2001 10:54 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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No, Sage, "yellow" is quite descriptive of color--it describes a particular color, just as Shetland describes a particular pony.
Sypher's ruling on my entry was correct.
I used "somersaulting" because you would actually see a trapeze performer in that position, or doing that, at a circus. AFTER my entry was made, Sypher ruled out verbs. PARTSDUDE may not have seen that change. Sypher is allowing some descriptive terms--he is just limiting it to one adjective per entry. Sypher should put the game revisions where everyone can be sure to see them.

And, Sage--If anything, "Yellow Color" seems to be an incomplete entry. Seems like it should be "Yellow Colored (insert appropriate word)" or "The Color Yellow" (which I would find a dubious entry). What does "Yellow Color" really have to do with a circus?


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#65506 - Mon Feb 05 2001 11:02 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Let me try and explain this more with these examples:

Sypher's entry: "Shetland pony" Shetland is the type of pony. If he would have posted "Small Shetland pony" then it would be invalid because "small" is the descriptive word.(size)

My entry: "Yellow color". Yellow is the type of color. If I would have posted "Bright yellow color" it would be invalid because "bright" is descriptive.(hue)

CB's entry: "Somersaulting Trapeze Performers". "Trapeze" is the type of performer and "somersaulting" is descriptive. (action)

Does this help?

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#65507 - Mon Feb 05 2001 11:10 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Sage, I understand what you are saying, but those are ALL examples of descriptions. A Shetland pony DESCRIBES a particular pony. Yellow DESCRIBES a particular color. "Small Shetland Pony", or "Mustard Yellow Color" would just be more precise or specific descriptions--as "Somersaulting Trapeze Performer" might be more specific than "Male Trapeze Performer". But, they are ALL descriptive. The game does require some degree of description in the entries. Sypher just doesn't want a string of adjectives, so he's now limiting it to one adjective per entry, and, (after my entry), he's not allowing verbs.

Sage--as far as your entry goes, I question "Yellow Color" as being a complete entry--without connecting the color to some sort of object, animal, person, etc. found in a circus.

[This message has been edited by chelseabelle (edited 02-05-2001).]

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#65508 - Mon Feb 05 2001 01:33 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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As far as today's entries....I will score them fair and post the extra rules for tomorrow. There will be no more challenges for today as no-one will be sure if their entry is VALID...SO If you want to have a score...Play Safe !! LOL !!

Sage...I was of the same thought as you when I used Shetland, but CB does have a point. No-one is wrong or right because I wasn't clear enough with what I wanted as valid entries. English was never my strong suit in school...god knows how I passed those exams.

Anyway, like I said...Be Safe !!

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#65509 - Mon Feb 05 2001 07:04 PM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Hi all....Just got back from our trip and would like to post after Fortunata, if that's o.k. with everyone. Thanks.

(Although, after reading through the Circus Snake Talk thread, I'm not at all sure what is and what isn't acceptable)...talk about confusion and a zillion gray areas! lol

BL

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#65510 - Tue Feb 06 2001 06:52 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Sypher--I can understand why you want to eliminate unnecessary adjectives and action words. But, your scoring is qute inconsistent. Karma's "Fire Breathing Choreography" contains an action word-- "breathing" is a verb. And, since when can choreography breath fire--or anything else? Choreography can't breathe! And, while you eliminate "Yellow" from JoJo's entry, what is a "Juggling Scarf"? How is different than any other kind of scarf? And, Sage's entry "Yellow Color" does not connect the color to an object, animal, or person--it is just a color. It does not seem to be a compete entry. It should also mean that the word "yellow" cannot be used again in the game--because that would be a duplicate (Sage's entry covers ALL things yellow).
Aren't the entries also supposed to make some logical sense--and have some connection to a circus?
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#65511 - Tue Feb 06 2001 07:58 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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OK...let's see if I can make sense of my scoring...

First...The rules were not too clear so I will not give anyone ZERO points for Day 1. So, Sage's entry still stands. Of course if someone tried that again, it would fail. As for Karma's entry, I thought Fire-Breathing was in the circus, as well as everything you see in a circus is Choreographed. Without Choreograph acts, the show would be total chaos. That is why Karma's entry stood.
JoJo's entry was cut short and would have been invalid in future entries but like I said....No-one was gonna score zero on the first day. I tried to make it fair and that is the best I could do.

By eliminating all verbs, actions, decriptive terms from the future entries unless they are needed to make an entry permissable and not just for more points....should make it easier to judge and score.

I hope this is ok but it is the best explanation to my madness !!

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#65512 - Tue Feb 06 2001 08:05 AM Re: SnakeTalk - Game 56 - Clowning Around !!
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Let's see if I can enforced some of the new and old rules here...

Ren - Your entry is NOT an object, person or animal. Therefore you entrie entry is INVALID.

Chelseabelle - If you had just lefted of 'decription' from your entry it would be an object, but it would still have had an adjective decribing a program. I would have to say your entry is also INVALID.

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