Hi Mama - the girl's name is "Flower". It comes from the Latin and is a form of Florence - it means blooming.

I will send verification through to Sypher in an e-mail. You do realise BL will now want to throttle you?! LOL

Just seen BL's entry - good one!! This is rapidly turning into a game within a game to use the most obscure names that can be found - cool! LOL

and what name is in BL's entry ?

Actually Somali, I thought your name was gonna be 'Alabama'. This name has been used as a female lead part in the film 'True Romance' !! Never considered you using the word 'Flower' as a name....

Win!!

Well then I should get double challenge points for having two girl's names in my entry!!!

No Way !! Never would have thought that....Do parents have a deathwish for their kids or just plain don't like them when they name them....

I have a friend whose last name is 'Paint'....His parents named him Bleu....Read it out loud and now go work in a DIY Shop !! LOL

Win is the shortened version of Winifred (or Winnie, Winona, whatever). It's actually fairly common in Scotland among women now in their fifties/sixties and older.

I guess I'll go down in defeat - but I tried. I guess I'm gonna be a malcontent this week, because I took this to be a week where the word in the title was used as a woman's name - Not the word "Flower" meaning "blossom" and certainly not the word "win" as in "to be victorious" twisted around. Hmmmm....
On the list of weird names, I have a cousin whose family name is "Wall" - named her oldest son "Brick" and her daughter "Cinder."
Also went to law school with a friend whose last name was "Lear" - and her cousin was named "Chanda."
Sick people!!!

[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Mamaja ]

Mama - both Flower and Win are listed as being proper female names on baby-naming websites.

Have I got a topic for next week's topic. Loads of add-ons and a interesting twist to each entry for the week....Oh it will be grand and I reckon very very hard !! LOL

All bribes can be forwarded to the Staff Room, address to me, if you want to find out !! LOL

Yes, Sypher, she spells her name just like that...Darling.
I know it´s an unusual name, so I went to check it out just now. It´s listed, but it´s not very common. For that matter, my name wasn´t listed on any of the baby-naming sites! Does this mean I don´t exist?

I suppose Flower could be considered one of those hippy names, but wouldn´t Win be classed as a nickname? And, are you allowing nicks?

Sypher, I forgot to ask...are medleys allowed? These would be the songs separated by a /, right?

Btw, your $100 dollars is on its way to the staff room now.

I hate to do this, but I just HAVE to challenge Mama' entry of EVERY LITTLE BREEZE SEEMS TO WHISPER LOUISE on the grounds that the actual title of the song is just LOUISE.

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Louise
From the movie "Innocents in Paris" (1929)
Music by Richard A. Whiting (1891-1938).
Lyrics by Leo Robin
A happy little ditty about singing birds and breezes whispering "Louise", this song was a huge hit in 1929. It was featured in the film "Innocents in Paris", which was the cinematic debut of Maurice Chevalier. He promptly became strongly identified with this popular tune (often called his theme song), written by one of the best movie songwriters of the era, Richard Whiting.

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Maurice Chevalier

........set off for Hollywood in 1929 to work in talking films. He was an immediate sensation; audiences loved his playful mugging and French accent.

His first film there, Innocents of Paris, spawned his first big hit record "Louise."

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BL

[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: BrideLady ]

[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: BrideLady ]

That's right, BL, kick me when I'm down!!! LOL!! I don't know how it was on the place I verified it - I only looked for a year after I thought of the song. I imagine you're right.
Somali, I know those words are forms of women's names - my point is that they are not used as such in these song titles. I took the spirit of this week's topic to be songs in which a woman's name appeared as a woman's name. Lots of words could be women's names, but in BL's song title, for example, the word means to be victorious. It is not a word denoting a person of the feminine persuasion. similarly, the "flower" entry refers to a growing, blooming thing, not a woman named "Flower." I almost didn't post "Yellow Rose" yesterday because some sites refer to just the flower and overlook the implication of it being a woman.
Sorry, but I think these entries are stretching credibility way beyond what you typically tolerate, Sypher. Don't mean to be a wet blanket, but I think it's time for wet noodles all around.

[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Mamaja ]

Hand me one of those wet noodles Mama, I'll stick to the wall with ya...lol. It seems this has been more of an exercise in stretching the limits. I understood the name in the song should be just that, a girls name. Any word can be used as a girls name, so where does that leave us? I made a challenge based on the rules and lost out on it. I don't know how to play this game.
I need one of those drinks with an umbrella so I have something to crunch on, anyone care to join me?

Oh crud! I don´t know which way to go on this. I mean, really, this week´s topic can be interpreted two ways.

Sypher only specified this topic as being - 'Girl Names in Songs'- which led me to believe that any girl´s name within a song could be used (that´s why I asked if a word could contain the girl´s name within it, and he said no). See the rules below for specifics. If the topic had been "Songs About Women" or "Songs Dedicated to Women", then that would make a big difference. But, he didn´t say anything of the sort. I guess it´s just in the way you look at things.

I really didn´t mean to "stretch" the limits here, so please don´t be upset with me. But I do apologize for having opened up this can of worms.

Valid Entries -

1. The entry must be the title of song.
2. The title of the song MUST contain a girl's name.
3. An entry must show who the song was sung by.
4. Points are awarded for the song...NOT...artist/group.

I'm not upset with you at all Fort! I challenged you based on the point you mentioned. Roses is not a girls name, it can not stand on it's own as per Sypher's original decision

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The name has to be able to stand on it's own...not part of a word like Fortunata's example.

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. The example you gave was Dixieland or I Saw the Angels. I had no idea you were thinking Darling was a womans name. It has always been a term of endearment as far as I know, like dear or hon. I'm not just talking about your entry when I said It seems this has been more of an exercise in stretching the limits. I understood the name in the song should be just that, a girls name. Any word can be used as a girls name. I'm talking about all of the entrys that have done just that. Just my opinion.......that's all. I'm not upset with anyone. I just don't know how to play this game when I feel like I'm following the rules and I get penalized for it. I don't want anyone to be upset with me either, but I've noticed no one else has any problem speaking their mind...I'm just following suit. Margarita anyone?

Ok, I know what you mean. But, honestly, if you´ll notice alot of girl names can mean other things (just like guy names..ie: Don, Bob, Mark). Names for the most part can be taken from common day words. For example, June, Faith, Hope, Glory...I could go on. And don´t get me started on hippy-type names! LOL

The problem here is in the whole interpretation of the topic. As I said, it can be songs that contain girl names in them or songs that are dedicated to or about girls. Either way, I think the entries should count as both comply with the rules.

And as for Darling, it´s not that I thought it was a girl´s name...it is a girl´s name...my friend´s for one. Just because it isn´t popular doesn´t mean it should be invalid.

PS- I´m not upset with you either. Frozen Margaritas all around!

I think Fort has hit the nail on the head when she said:

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The problem here is in the whole interpretation of the topic.

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I can remember a time in 'early' Snake when Sypher actually went to a local music store to check sheet music in order to rule on an entry!

I really don't know what the answer is, but I do hate to see all the confusion.

Sypher has indicated that next week's topic will be demanding and hard, with no loopholes....I, for one, look forward to it.

BL

OK...I will pass judgement on what I think is fair. There will be no arguments, heated discussions are allowed but I will probably not change my mind as I have the last word in all matters regarding Snake.

Annie will not be penalised for her challenge on Fortunata's entry of 'Darling'. Reason....Has anyone notice I make the girl's name in my entries 'Itallic'? Why ? So, players can see what I have chosen as my girl's name. If you do not do this, then you are open to challenges. The idea is not to have the sneakiest, most unobvious girls name in the world. Fortunata will lose her extra 10 points given to her by the challenge.

Somali & Bridelady - Three words....'KNOCK IT OFF'. I've never met two people so competative...it's great, don't get me wrong and I know you two try to bend the rules any which way you can. Hell, I never saw this happening this week. I thought, how hard is it to find girls names in song titles.

Both your entries will count and no points will given extra for the challenges on them. GIRLS NAMES MUST BE IN ITALLICS !!

Finally, Bridelady's challenge on Mamaja's entry...it counts because Mamaja's entry was not the name of the song. Sorry BUT, I am gonna disregard that challenge purely on the fact that BL is lucky to get away with her entry and Mamaja will only score for the Girl's name. Like I said, I'm gonna be fair.

BTW....If Somali had said 'Alabama' was the girl's name...I would have thought nothing of it as it is the main female character's name in 'True Romance' starring Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette.

[ 06-14-2001: Message edited by: Sypher ]

Wasn't sure how to do italics in bold, but I've just been practising in the Test Thread so now I know!

So, if we put the name in italics does that mean we can still use obscure ones?

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You're ok Somali with 'Hope'. Sandra Bullock played a main character with that name in 'Hope Floats'

Somali - Within Reason....Like a famous person might be called by that name. Just changed my mind....Nope...Obsure names...NO Chance !!

'Hope' is alright as a film character has been named that, just like 'Alabama' was.

Is it just me or does anyone else find the above confusing? LOL

Am I right in thinking then that provided we can find a character in a film with the name we want to use it will be classed as valid, even tho' the name might be a very peculiar one????