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#70764 - Sat May 25 2002 08:10 PM Nirvana Fans Vs. Courtney
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I don't know about you guys, But I am so sick and tired of Courtney Love. Who does she think she is trying to control Nirvana's music. I don't care if she is Kurt's widow. She is depriving all Nirvana fans from what WE really want, which is unreleased Nirvana music. The last time I checked, she WASN'T the 4th Nirvana member. She shouldn't even be allowed to have any say in future Nirvana releases. She was just riding his coattails anyway. WE ALL KNOW THAT KURT WROTE "LIVE THROUGH THIS". IF SHE LOVED HIM SO MUCH, THEN WHERE WAS SHE WHEN HE DIED.
SIGNED, ONE REALLY PI**ED OFF FAN.

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#70765 - Sun Jun 02 2002 03:02 PM Re: Nirvana Fans Vs. Courtney
Slayer42473 Offline
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Would someone please give me their opinion on this topic. Even if you side with Courtney, it will at least give me some new insight on the subject.

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#70766 - Sun Jun 02 2002 05:46 PM Re: Nirvana Fans Vs. Courtney
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Two words: Yoko Ono (oooh, am I starting a controversy here? [Smile] )

I have nothing against either of them personally, and I have no problems with their music. But I just need to know if there's a logical reason why they seem to live vicariously through their dead husbands, 'cos I can't find one.

With you on this one, Slayer...
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#70767 - Mon Jun 03 2002 07:30 PM Re: Nirvana Fans Vs. Courtney
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I've said this before, I'll say it again. Courtney Love is the most disgusting human being on the planet. For a while there I thought she changed her name to Courtney Love-Widow of Kurt Cobain. Nirvana is one of my least favorite bands, so that has nothing to do with why I can't stand Courtney.
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#70768 - Fri Jul 12 2002 03:20 AM Re: Nirvana Fans Vs. Courtney
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Registered: Tue Jul 09 2002
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Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
I just had to comment on the comparison of Courtney Love to Yoko Ono. There is NO comparison. First of all, Yoko was Sarah Lawrence educated, coming from a well known banking family and established as an artist and poet before she John Lennon. Her life with John meant that some of the most incredible music in the world could be created, esp songs like "Imagine," Woman is the N*****r of the World," "Give peace a Chance," and "(just like) Starting Over." Their life and love together is legend among music fans as well as their friends. Yoko is a talented artist who believes in what her husband was doing with his life and supports his legacy: whether she is buying John's childhood home and donating it to the National Trust or being on hand to christen Manchester's airport in his name.

Now Courtney Hole is another matter, entirely. Her association with Kurt has been suspect from the start, esp as she was known to do just about anything to become famous (and obviously did), talent notwithstanding. One could hardly call her a talented artist or poet if one listens to Hole (really...) and the band's longevity is, in part, testiment to that. She has never had anyone's best interest at heart but her own, not even her daughter's. Those of us who have lived in Seattle through the whirlwind we call C.Love, her bandmate Kristen Pfaff's death, her Broadway/Capitol Hill shenanigans, could never call her behaviour "in her daughter's best interest." Children are some of the best things in our lives, in anyone's life. Their upbringing and securing their future as a rounded individual should be all encompassing. No one could call her behaviour now, nor 5 years ago, nor 10 years ago anything less than embarrassing to musicians, artists and those who worked hard to achieve what they have.

I am not saying that she hasn't payed her dues, and I'm sure she feels she has, but she should never be thought of in the same breath as Yoko Ono.

I also must admit, I am biased towards John and Yoko - due to the great love of music and recognizing social injustice we shared (and a chance meeting...but that is another story). I have met Courtney (and Kurt, too, separately) and I can only describe the instance as "wretched" and embarrassing to everyone else there. I have been on both sides of the microphone - interviewer and interviewee - and she was my only downer, every pun intended.

I don't intend to flame, sorry if it appeared that way. John and Yoko were from an age in which modern music culture was birthed. That should be recognized and revered, for it can never be repeated. In the same fashion, I revere those who have shown us how to love and live, with grace and honesty. Anyone that doesn't see that Yoko Ono has contributed greatly to the modern tapestry of Culture, as we know it, has not learned from the past. Not at all.

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