#959393 - Sat Jan 05 2013 11:23 AM
Re: From a 1953 Exam Paper
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If someone was willing to publish it (I will waive the payment) I'd have a go at one or two. I'd say they were a way to sort out the opinionated from the informed and educated, as without the need for a wide knowledge of history just the approach to the essays would be a good indication of their future performance or potential.
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#959429 - Sat Jan 05 2013 01:06 PM
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I agree that these broad ranging subjects were intended as an opportunity for the candidate to show how they marshalled an argument and how fluidly they were able to write. I had a quick look in my files to check if I still had the General Paper for the Oxford entrance exam I sat back in 1975. Oddly, I do still have all of the four subject papers (Eng. Lit) I took, but the General Paper is now missing.  I can't remember the subject of each of the general essays I wrote (not surprisingly!), but I do remember authoring a scathing polemic against the ethos of public school privilege that Oxford and Cambridge were (are) associated with, and arguing for a more inclusive social engagement. I had a do-or-die, kamikaze streak back then (and still!) that possibly had to do with being ambivalent about whether I really wanted to go to Oxford at all, as well as a defensiveness about what sort of chance I had - coming from a run-of-the-mill state grammar school - of being offered a place anyway!  The selectors must have appreciated my frankness - either that, or I got the sympathy vote! - because I got offered a place (at Balliol). I don't think they took my arguments much on board though, then or since! 
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#959453 - Sat Jan 05 2013 05:42 PM
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He wrote "no" on the paper and left. First Class Honours. There used to be all sorts of stories circulating at the older English universities about people getting degrees for handing in blank scripts or scripts with no worthwhile content. Typically, a candidate in the final honours school would have to complete a number of papers. His or her final class would depend on the average grade. So, if the final examination consisted of 10 papers, and a candidate had to get 8 alpha grades for First Class Honours, it would be technically possible to get a First by handing in eight excellent scripts and two scripts containing nothing but your name. On the whole, I don't think this is unreasonable. Frankly, I doubt whether anyone (even a Royal) could get a degree in the twentieth century simply on the grounds of sporting ability. I any case, a rowing blue would surely prefer a "gentleman's third" or even a pass degree.
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#959454 - Sat Jan 05 2013 06:09 PM
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There used to be all sorts of stories circulating at the older English universities ... There used to be all sorts of funny stories circulating, not just about blank or virtually blank scripts. One of my favourite stories is about an outstanding Classicist who, on reading through his translation script before handing it in, noticed that at one point he had put an object in the nominative. Instead of correcting it, he put an asterisk and added the footnote: 'This use of the nominative is idiosyncratic and should be avoided by less able candidates.' Another 'funny' that I heard from one of my tutors who was an examiner for one of the special subject papers told me that one candidate wrote at the very bottom of his script: 'The questions asked reveal an astonishing ignorance of recent research on this area'. Apparently, the other examiner was very angry, but my tutor managed to calm him down. _______ As for the stories about blank scripts and the like I'm very sceptical. In any case, by the time I took Finals there was a rule that in order to get any sort of degree at all (even a pass) candidates had to pass on all papers. I've heard from a number of sources.
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#959627 - Mon Jan 07 2013 10:22 AM
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Frankly, I doubt whether anyone (even a Royal) could get a degree in the twentieth century simply on the grounds of sporting ability. I any case, a rowing blue would surely prefer a "gentleman's third" or even a pass degree.
I'm always amused by the fact that Sir Patrick Mayhew, who was Margaret Thatcher's Solicitor-General and then Attorney-General, only managed a 3rd in Jurisprudence when he was at Oxford. In the normal run of life a poor degree would rarely qualify you for the highest legal posts in the land! 
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#960386 - Thu Jan 10 2013 05:04 PM
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Thanks for the link. Actually, this should be in the 1895 Kansas Test thread. I have read the Snopes article and found it disappointing. It seems to be making three rather obvious points at some length: 1. Beware sensationalist headlines about standards. (Agreed) I remember that after the launch of Sputnik I in 1957 there was a lot of panicky talk about What little Ivan knows that Johnny doesn't and so on. (You don't hear that one nowadays.  ) 2. That, by comparison with today, the 1895 Kansas Test seems to point to a narrow education. (Agreed) 3. That one should not draw conclusions about educational standards on the basis of such comparisons. This is, in effect, merely a restatement of John B. Carroll's well-known dictum: [We should not be surpised if] by and large students learn, if anything, precisely what they are taught. I'm not sure about precisely but apart from that he hit the nail on the head.
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