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#1089000 - Fri Mar 27 2015 09:50 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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I like looneytunes' solution. "Former" to me is an unnecessary adjective for everyone in the list. If you put down dates (Abraham Lincoln, president 1861-1865), then the "former" is not necessary. If the accomplishment is event-specific (1996 Olympic champion), the "former" is not necessary. If a person becomes identified with his/her activity (artist, writer, architect, even murderer or conman), the "former" is never appropriate anyway. If Stephen King or JK Rowling stopped writing tomorrow, would you call either a "former writer"? Just my opinion.

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#1089005 - Sat Mar 28 2015 01:26 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Originally Posted By: Creedy
Is this thread for any errors that need amending, such as dates etc, that we may find in the daily game?

Not that I've found any. Just curious.


It's where you note any problems with the descriptions, whether it is an error or a lack of information, or whatever. Sometimes I decide it doesn't need to be changed, usually I amend the entry appropriately.
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#1089081 - Sat Mar 28 2015 10:46 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Nova Peris-Kneebone
She discarded the -Kneebone when she divorced Mr. Kneebone, and in her two marriages since then, she has kept her surname as Peris.

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#1089378 - Tue Mar 31 2015 10:08 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Suggestion for John McLoughlin: American settler known as the 'Father of Oregon'; built Fort Vancouver; his general store was the last stop on the Oregon Trail

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#1090768 - Thu Apr 09 2015 09:20 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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French Revolutionary & Napoleonic military officer
Your answer: Marshal Michel Ney

"Marshall" was a military rank, not part of his name
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#1092410 - Tue Apr 21 2015 04:47 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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I had this one today.

4. British film magnate who built up the 'Rank' film studios
Your answer: J. Arthur Rank

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#1092973 - Sat Apr 25 2015 08:42 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Originally Posted By: nautilator
I'd like to suggest a more elaborate description for Norman Jaffe. Maybe American architect; pioneered contemporary residential architecture; designed over 50 beach houses on Long Island


I'd like to suggest this again, and if not this certainly something more elaborate than "American architect."

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#1093474 - Wed Apr 29 2015 08:57 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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American comedienne; actress; wife of George Burns
Your answer: Gracie Allen

I thought it was decided not to use the husband of a woman to describe her?

American physician; discoverer of a treatment for anaemia
Your answer: Dr. George R. Minot

His title kind of gives it away

English singer-songwriter; musician; 'Stand & Deliver'
Your answer: Adam Ant

He was born Stuart Goddard, Adam Ant is his stage name
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#1093475 - Wed Apr 29 2015 09:10 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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It's a bit different in the case of Burns and Allen. Gracie made a living out of being his wife; they were a comedy team and a lot of their humour was based on that relationship.

Why do you feel it necessary to use Adam Ant's birth name, which fewer people will know? Surely the stage name is appropriate in this case?

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#1093476 - Wed Apr 29 2015 09:25 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Originally Posted By: lonely-lady
American comedienne; actress; wife of George Burns
Your answer: Gracie Allen

I thought it was decided not to use the husband of a woman to describe her?


Burns and Allen were a double act; his career included work where she wasn't present so it is valid to refer to him on his own but her career was confined almost entirely to being the comic to his 'straight man' so I'd say that referring to her as his wife was allowable.

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American physician; discoverer of a treatment for anaemia
Your answer: Dr. George R. Minot

His title kind of gives it away


Thank goodness for that, no one would get it otherwise.

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English singer-songwriter; musician; 'Stand & Deliver'
Your answer: Adam Ant

He was born Stuart Goddard, Adam Ant is his stage name


Gary Grant was Archibald Leach, Elton John is Reginald Dwight, Maureen O'Hara was Maureen FitzSimons... the list is endless. Who are we to remove the stage names people choose for themselves and by which they choose to be known?


Edited by flopsymopsy (Wed Apr 29 2015 09:26 AM)
Edit Reason: SpanishLiz types faster, and shorter, than I do. :)
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#1093506 - Wed Apr 29 2015 01:29 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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It was never decided not to refer to people's partners, although some have suggested it. That information is sometimes relevant, as in this case. I think Prince Phillip is there, too, listed as husband of HRH. When it is the only reason why someone is known, I probably wouldn't add them, and if they are currently listed, I would try to find another way to describe them, especially since marriage isn't forever. But it isn't outside acceptable description.

I am certainly not going to list Adam Ant as Stuart Goddard. Performance names are our standard listing. I sometimes include their birth name to help identify them if the only other information is along the lines of English musician. In this case, the title of a song closely connected to him has been used. Of course, I realise that it is also the title of a movie with no connection. If the complaint is that the information provided is misleading, it can be changed.

Title such as Dr, Sir, Lord are used as part of the name where it is standard to use them in reference to the person. Sometimes it may make the answer obvious, sometimes there could be two people/descriptions that might match, just as happens for other aspects of the names and descriptions - gender can be all the same, or one different, or a couple of each; there could be three French names to match with a description that says French novelist, or there could be only one.
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#1093700 - Thu Apr 30 2015 11:58 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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I don't like the description of Linda McCartney as 'former wife' of Paul. It makes it sound as if they divorced. Maybe 'late wife' might be better.

Maybe I'm being 'picky' but I have the same reaction every time I see it.


Edited by rossian (Thu Apr 30 2015 11:58 AM)
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#1093711 - Thu Apr 30 2015 01:36 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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I hadn't seen it, but will certainly add her to the list for review.
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#1093733 - Thu Apr 30 2015 05:03 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Helen Morse - Australian actress; title role in 'Caddie'; Mlle de Poitiers in 'Picnic at Hanging Rock'

She was born in England. Perhaps it would be better if the description were listed as "English Australian" or "English-born Australian"

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Morse

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#1094016 - Sat May 02 2015 08:28 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Virginia Dare - English colonist; first European child born in America

Forgive me if this has already been discussed/addressed, but if she was born in America, she's not a European child, nor an "English colonist". Her parents were English colonists of course. Right? tongue


Edited by pyonir (Sat May 02 2015 08:29 PM)

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#1094021 - Sat May 02 2015 09:10 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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It was still an English colony at the time, so she was an English citizen.
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#1094133 - Sun May 03 2015 05:20 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
It was still an English colony at the time, so she was an English citizen.


Ah, of course. blush Thanks LT.

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#1094600 - Fri May 08 2015 08:41 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Keanu Reeves

Your answer: Lebanese-born Canadian-British-American film actor; 'Speed' & 'The Matrix'

Mr Reeves holds a Green Card, that does not make him an American. He has not claimed British citizenship, although he is entitled to it due to his mother, however he claims to be a Canadian.
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#1094641 - Fri May 08 2015 03:39 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Keanu Reeves

Born in Lebanon to an English mother and American father. He moved to Toronto, Canada at the age of 7. At the age of 20, he moved to Los Angeles to pursue acting.

He's not Candian at all. He merely spent most of his childhood there. He might self identify as Canadian because of that. The films he has been in are American productions.

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#1094642 - Fri May 08 2015 03:43 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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According to imdb he "maintains his Canadian citizenship and passport". That makes him Canadian to me.

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#1094671 - Fri May 08 2015 08:09 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Okay. I looked at Wikipedia. I guess he became a Canadian citizen because he lived there so long as a child. Somehow. I know nothing about to become a Canadian citizen.

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#1094707 - Sat May 09 2015 04:44 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Heinrich Heine = (German romantic writer; poem 'Allnachtlic im Traume' set to music by both Schumann & Mendelssohn)

There is a typo in the name of the poem: 'Allnächtlich im Traume'

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#1094982 - Tue May 12 2015 12:30 PM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Originally Posted By: MiraJane
Okay. I looked at Wikipedia. I guess he became a Canadian citizen because he lived there so long as a child. Somehow. I know nothing about to become a Canadian citizen.


I know many people who were originally American and who became Canadian after living there a while.

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#1097711 - Sat Jun 06 2015 09:21 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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Nicholas I of Russia

Your answer: Emperor of Russia 1825-1855; King of Poland; Grand Duke of Finland
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#1098821 - Mon Jun 15 2015 09:13 AM Re: Who Am I - Content Issues
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English comedian; TV actor; 'The Two Ronnies'

Ronnie Barker

He was also in "Open All Hours" and "Porridge", neither of which uses his first name.
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