Horses are going, too, as I discover them - I would certainly appreciate having them pointed out.

This has the very short word of tu at the end of the description -

Australian tennis player ranked No. 1 amateur in 1956; member of four victorious Davis Cup teams; tu = (Lew Hoad)

Do you search by the name of the subject?

I had Affrimed in yesterday's game, if that helps any.

Yes, I need the name, then I can locate them and do whatever is necessary.

Fictional character in William Shakespeare's 'Twelfth Night'

answer: Viola

thanks

Don't suppose there's any chance of removing a heap of adjectives from some of the descriptions?

Like actors who cant just be actors (which is what they are known for) but have to be directors, screenplay writers,singer, songwriter, muscian, musical producer etc etc

Or am I the only one that this annoys? It slows me down when I'm trying to read quickly.

I thought the multiple descriptors were an integral part of the game.

(I hope some fictional characters stay. I like getting them. And the racehorses. It adds a bit of fun.)

I agree with Chavs entirely. Racehorses are athletes, just as much as hockey players and footballers.

The multiple descriptors are extra clues, as far as I can tell, not distractions.

but, but these are the ones that I often get right

Me too!!

I like the fictional characters & racehorses too. Some of them are more well known than the people in this game.

And the extra descriptors help! I don't know who all the actors or actresses are but sometimes I have heard of other things they have done in their lives.

Suzane Somers is an actress as famous for the thigh master, her books, and her skin care (or makeup?) line as for being in some sitcoms.

I'm not taking about people who do DIFFERENT things I'm talking about the fact that every actor seems to be classed as a director as well ( they may have directed one movie) and a multitude of other things all related to the movie industry.

A singer these days also seems to have to be a performer, a dancer, a songwriter and musical producer as well

Some of these descriptions can have 6 or 7 adjectives which drive me nuts.

When I see the name of someone like Tom Hanks I'm looking quickly down the line to find a description that says something about an American actor not every other little thing he's tried his hat at.

It's just my opinion and obviously not shared by others which is fine.

P.S. I also like the fictional characters

Set 28 today has three 'giveaways', which I, personally, don't like. Last time I queried the inclusion of initials, I was told to be thankful, but I prefer more of a challenge.

For the record (these are only partial wordings):

Initials ST = Sylvanus Thayer

Initials AG = Andrew Grove

Known for the Fred Hollows Foundation = (unsurprisingly) Fred Hollows

These are valid people to include but I'd had thought the descriptions could be reworded.

The initials people have been added to my list, and the initials will be removed - if there isn't anything else distinguishing to say about someone, they shouldn't be there. Fred Hollows is already on my list - but it has hundreds of entries, mostly definitions like "English actress & TV presenter" that could apply to a zillion different people. As I come across them during play, I am putting them on the list to try and find a more personalized description. It just takes time to do the research and decide what to say in the limited space that is available.

If Tom Hanks gets onto my list, the new description would be American actor and then name a film. Deciding which one is the most recognizable will be the hard part.

It sounds a huge task. Good luck with it.

I thought the initials were added to entries that were sufficiently obscure that people had trouble getting them right. They don't bother me, but then I am not one of the wizzes at this game.

I like the fictional characters and the racehorses. I hope they don't disappear.

Sue

Long may Rin Tin Tin be appearing as a "Who Am I?" item. There were only a handful of more famous performers than the Rin in his prime. Is Lassie going to be sent to the relatives' farm upstate too?

Dr John H. Watson, fictional character, turned up in my set today.

Today I got Greyfriars Bobby (a dog) and Fal(l)ine (a fictional deer)

I am just reporting these, but to be honest, would prefer the animals to stay. I find them far more interesting than random soap stars.

I'd be in favor of keeping the fictional characters and famous horses/dogs, too. I won't get Archie Gemmill (who?), but I'll get Darth Vader!

I have noticed the improvement in descriptors already, looney_tunes, so good job.

One request I would make no one has mentioned yet is when there are multiple job descriptions for actors, musicians, etc., that the title of the movie, tv show, book, or song that s/he did be identified as such. It probably won't help me any; if I don't know who the person is, knowing that s/he appeared in "Over the Waterfall" won't make any more sense than knowing that s/he directed in "Over the Waterfall" or wrote "Over the Waterfall", but it would still be nice to know which one it was.

Adding the name of a movie, TV show, book, musical composition, etc. is part of the process I have in mind. Usually only one per person, so deciding which one for some of them is a lot harder than it is for one-hit wonders. Word count restrictions mean that I can't always fit in exactly what the individual did, but I have been trying to do so where possible. I personally find it frustrating to be told that someone is a pop or rock musician without knowing either a group they performed with or a song they sang on. I may not know it the first time I see the individual, but I can try to recognise it the next time.

A couple more which could probably benefit from rewording:

Rudolf Diesel - part of the description is 'inventor of the Diesel engine'

John Dalberg-Acton - 'first Baron Acton' is included in the answer option

Alan Jay Lerner
Your answer: American author; Tony & Oscar-winning lyricist; 'Brigadoon', 'Camelot' & 'My Fair Lady'

The 'American author' part is a real red herring, I started reading the description and initially discounted that answer because of it. If I see 'Author' in the description I'd expect it to describe someone who's written a book!

Just my twopennorth worth but I can't see what's wrong with the animals and fictional characters either. Doesn't hurt to have an easy question in the mix sometimes.

I didn't know that the diesel engine was invented by someone called Diesel. At least, not until I came to FunTrivia. Things that might look like giveaways to some, might just be educational to others or -- dare I say it - just plain fun and games! Is it ok if the game is configured for fun and not a test? ;D Please? Ok, I'll butt out now.