Subject: Keeping your dog in a kennel
Posted by: TheRambler
Date: Oct 10 09
I live in a large village and along the road from me, there's a rottweiler that is kept in a kennel, for how long, I don't know. Each time I pass with my own dog, the rotty is in there and the owners are in their house. Now, I can't really work out why you would want a dog, just to keep it in a box. I think that is neglect and I have reported it to the authorities. They are going to make a visit but what do you think?
Posted by: TheRambler
Date: Oct 10 09
I live in a large village and along the road from me, there's a rottweiler that is kept in a kennel, for how long, I don't know. Each time I pass with my own dog, the rotty is in there and the owners are in their house. Now, I can't really work out why you would want a dog, just to keep it in a box. I think that is neglect and I have reported it to the authorities. They are going to make a visit but what do you think?
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Deunan 
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Why have a dog if the dog is caged all the time? Pets are part of the family. Dog jail is not kind, fair or acceptable. Good for you for reporting it to be investigated. At least you care about the dog. Reply #1. Oct 10 09, 8:38 AM |
supersal1
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Is it actually shut in the kennel, or is it free to wander around the garden as well? I agree that if a dog is shut out on its own all day then there's little point in owning one. It may be that it's primary function is as a watchdog or guard dog rather than family pet though. I don't think the RSPCA or anyone will be able to do much if it is fed and has access to water and shelter. There's a pony tethered near where I live. He can graze and the local householders make sure he has water. He's stuck in the middle of a field with no shelter but the RSPCA still say they can do nothing as he has food and water. Reply #2. Oct 10 09, 9:22 AM |
honeybee4
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That is the safest place for a dog that lives by a road. It might also be a watchdog that barks if a stranger comes around the house. As long as it is being fed and watered, I don't think the authorities will do anything. I would hope that the family has more interaction with the dog other than feeding and watering it. Reply #3. Oct 10 09, 9:55 AM |
rayven80
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My dogs are kept in the run if I'm not home, if I'm home and doing work that I don't want them to "help" with, and when I have people over who aren't used to them. I've had the humane society over more times than I care to remember. It's far safer for them to be in the run, especially since they can open the front gate that leads to the street. My parents do the same with their dogs. Reply #4. Oct 10 09, 10:31 AM |
lesley153
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The dog might be a guard dog, or it might be a symbol of masculinity for the man of the house who can't afford a red sports car. A lot of men have big or scary dogs as an extension to their - er - personality. Reply #5. Oct 10 09, 11:17 AM |
TheRambler
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Yeah you're right, you've got to look at the people involved. They used to have a large male rottweiler and then they got a black gsd. They were right into going to Crufts until they got disillusioned with it, so they got rid of the male rotty and the gsd. I think the female rotty is definitely a guard dog but she's really friendly. He has a taxi business which means he's away all different hours but surely the dog would be better in the house with the woman. She works in a local shop and is a "big mouth, eat the ham" and likes to drop the fact that her dogs were at Crufts. You can tell I don't like them eh? The dog has no access to the garden and is locked in the kennel by the way, where all three of them were at one point. Reply #6. Oct 11 09, 8:09 AM |
tezza1551
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That was SOOO beautifully put Lesley... and so true. Reply #7. Oct 11 09, 9:10 AM |
| honeybee4
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I still say that a kennel is the safest place for a dog that lives near a road. It is not necessarily a must that a bid dog like that should be kept in the house, especially if the people aren't there to let him out once in a while to do his business. Shame on a guy who wants a big dog to boost his ego. Reply #8. Oct 11 09, 10:06 AM |
veronikkamarrz
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I don't see that a dog locked in a wire box, can do much guarding. He may 'alert' the owners to a problem, but nothing more. I'd prefer to have my dog inside, if that's where I am. It's only right. You said it all, Lesley! Reply #9. Oct 11 09, 10:10 AM |
REDVIKING57
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Steady now,ladies! I have always had 'big dogs' - specifically German Shepherd Dogs. We have them because we like them,as does the rest of my family,not as an 'extension to my - er - personality! LOL! I've got four kids for my 'extensions'! Diane,just wondering if your motivation to report your neighbours was concern for the dog,or your dislike of her owners? Doesn't sound as if she's being mistreated,or she probably wouldn't be too friendly. And as you can see her clearly when you take your dog for a walk,does she appear malnourished or badly treated? BTW - our dog is a part of our family and is kept in the house. He has free run,except upstairs. He is also a 'watchdog','guard-dog' and 'family protector'. We also have signs up saying he 'lives there' - so burglars beware! Reply #10. Oct 11 09, 11:37 AM |
| rayven80
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The definition of "big dog" is obviously selective here. We have Newfoundlands. Mine is the smallest at 3 feet tall, 5.5 feet long with tail and 100lbs. They are adorable and friendly. Sometimes too friendly, which is why they are kenneled when people come to visit because many people have an issue with getting a "hug" from Mom's 4 foot tall, 120 pound puppy. Reply #11. Oct 11 09, 12:04 PM |
| REDVIKING57
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LOL Raygina! 'Over here',Newfoundlands are counted as 'Giant' breeds,not just 'big'. But our dog is quite big for a Shepherd - about 50 kilos - and he's not quite 3 years old yet,so still growing! And we also put him out when we have visitors - until they've sat down! Then we bring him in,introduce him,then put him out again - if necessary! Guests have the choice! Reply #12. Oct 11 09, 12:18 PM |
| lesley153
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Down boy! *flutters eyelashes at Paul* I did say a lot of men, not all men. Honest! I've usually lived in relatively dog-free areas, but started taking notice when new people moved in next door, bringing with them two unrelated unneutered untrained male GSDs. They didn't spend any time with the dogs, or take them for walks, just left them in the garden, without shelter, in the freezing fog of 1996. They howled and whimpered 24 hours a day, and spent all night keeping the neighbourhood awake. They woke me up every night for six months. (Eventually, an RSPCA inspector visited and told them to get a kennel. So they got a Wendy House. Ah well. Nearly right.) It didn't take long before I was on first name terms with the local dog warden! She said that Bedford was full of men who kept GSDs: like my neighbour, they all loved them more than life itself, and would never harm a hair on their beautiful hairy bodies; until she told them how much it costs to look after dogs like these properly, and suddenly they loved them a little less. Many even made the ultimate sacrifice and had the dogs rehomed. The neighbours got rid of one of the dogs because they were fighting, then Mrs moved out (thank goodness, because she liked her drum and bass at top decibel). Mr started working away, and left the other dog alone in the house for weeks on end, with just a friend looking in for five minutes a day (almost every day) to put out fresh food and water. Occasionally, the dog would escape from the back garden, and be found wandering round our front gardens, or in the road. The dog warden told him that the neighbours would be alarmed at the sight of a big dog running loose, and would be complaining about the potential risk. "So what? That's their problem." Then the dog warden told him that the dog might cause an accident, and that he could be held liable for the costs of any damage to life and property. The kindest thing would be to get him rehomed. "Liable? costs? Where do I sign!" Reply #13. Oct 11 09, 12:27 PM |
| REDVIKING57
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Sadly,Lesley,that is not an unfamiliar story. Often,the bigger the dog at one end of the leash,the bigger the idiot on the other! Personally,I'm a staunch advocate for the return of dog OWNER licences. These should be like driving licences,with a written test section. And they should be able to be withdrawn from unsuitable owners. All dogs should be micro-chipped,so owners can be traced,and held responsible.And there should be a state insurance available for dogs. As an alternative to the commercial ones available - these are huge rip-offs! But it's not just the owners of big dogs that are unsuitable. Many smaller dogs are subjected to mal-treatment and cruelty. Have you seen the current 'fashion' of two-bob celebs carrying dogs in hand-bags? Unnatural and,in my opinion,cruel. And if dogs are fed and kept properly,they don't need clothes! YUK! Reply #14. Oct 11 09, 1:27 PM |
| lesley153
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I never understood why dog licences were abolished. The official line, if I remember correctly, was that the fee was too small to collect economically. That's because it didn't increase with inflation. Aargh! Is pet insurance as big a rip-off as vets' fees? I thought the miniature dog as handbag accessory had been going for a few years. Probably started off by a ten-bob celeb and passed down the food chain. That's right, dogs don't need clothes. Nor do they need their hair to be dyed blue, or styled in corn rows with beads; nor do they need to be disguised as giraffes or bananas or suicide bombers, or to be squeezed into truncated fizzy-drink bottles. Look and weep. http://funny-videos-and-pictures.blogspot.com/2009/01/my-owner-is-idiot_30.html http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/1372/ http://www.modernpooch.com/archives/2005/11/my_owner_is_an_idiot.html Reply #15. Oct 11 09, 3:57 PM |
| REDVIKING57
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LOL,Lesley! The 'case for the prosecution rests'. Does anyone think these 'owners' should pass a 'fit and proper person' test for dog ownership? Sorry if I've 'derailed' the thread a little......now,back to our Rottie and dogs kept outside. Nothing wrong with keeping a dog outside,provided they have certain 'basic' needs. Such as enough food,clean water,shelter,space to roam and a little 'social interaction' - IMHO! Reply #16. Oct 12 09, 4:28 AM |
| lesley153
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We haven't really derailed it. Granted the OP mentioned kennels, but we've only extended it a *tiny* bit, from "Why have a dog and leave it in a box?" to "Why have you actually got a dog if you're not interested in it?" When I asked the RSPCA about ten years ago, about the dog being left alone next door (and whimpering like an abandoned child), I was told that the only legal requirements were a daily supply of food and fresh water. I wonder if the RSPCA man was keeping it simple for me, or wriggling out of potential involvement if I chose to ask them to get involved. Here's a nice website with basic information and links to more: http://www.dogstrust.org.uk/information/factsheets/doglaw/presentlaw/ Notice the order of topics on this page: Laws Directly Affecting Dog Owners Identification Control Responsible Ownership Protection of Animals Protection comes last. We have to get our priorities right! Reply #17. Oct 12 09, 6:04 AM |
| TheRambler
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No Paul, it's definitely the dog I'm worried about. The excersise the three dogs got when I did see them out, was the guy showing off how trained they were. The big fella especially, walked to heel and moved on a sixpence but then that was all for Crufts. I just don't see the point when you live in suburbia, to keep a dog in a kennel. Reply #18. Oct 12 09, 7:40 AM |
| TheRambler
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By the way, I love all your funny replies and didn't realise that men had a thing about big dogs, as well as big cars! Reply #19. Oct 12 09, 7:42 AM |
| honeybee4
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Yes, protection should come first. My son has a big great Dane and it is big enough to do what it wants. He keeps it in the house and one day he opened the front door and the dog rushed outside right in to the path of a passing car. The dog could have been responsible for a terrible accident. No one was injured and the home insurance took care of the car. If the dog had been in a kennel this would never have happened. It breaks my heart when I see a dog that has been ran over on the highway. Just because you keep a dog in the kennel doesn't mean that you can't take him out every day and play with him in an enclosed area or take him for a walk on a leash. Many people have a cage in the house that they keep there dogs in, what is the difference. Reply #20. Oct 12 09, 8:27 AM |
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