Subject: John Terry, England Captain
Posted by: romeomikegolf
Date: Feb 05 10
I'm surprised this hasn't come up before. For those that have no knowledge of our national game, John Terry is the captain of England's football team. His place is under discussion because of allegations about his private life.
The question is: Should anything he does in his private live, as long as it is within the law, have any effect on his ability to lead his country on the sports field?
Posted by: romeomikegolf
Date: Feb 05 10
I'm surprised this hasn't come up before. For those that have no knowledge of our national game, John Terry is the captain of England's football team. His place is under discussion because of allegations about his private life.
The question is: Should anything he does in his private live, as long as it is within the law, have any effect on his ability to lead his country on the sports field?
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Redwallcrazy
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To start off I love sport, but I'm not a real big fan of Soccer, but I know about this. It is very strange, especially because he won the Father of the Year award a few years ago. A good team captain must not only be a good player, but a good role model to others in his team. He must listen to the coach, be a good sport and have a clean personal life. Players look up to their captain. If he is found with drugs, is having an affair or anything like that, he should instantly be stripped of his leadership. So my answer is he shouldn’t be captain. Reply #1. Feb 05 10, 3:13 AM |
cazza2902 
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I'm an Aussie so have heard only a little about the John Terry issue. Whilst there are issues of personal ethics involved I am not sure how much it has to do with his ability to play the game. It may affect the captaincy in some people's view because it may impact on team cohesion. If he was just a player I don't think it would be such a big issue. Reply #2. Feb 05 10, 3:20 AM |
| Redwallcrazy
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Hey, I'm an Australian as well! Your right, we only get small bits and pieces of it. Reply #3. Feb 05 10, 3:27 AM |
romeomikegolf
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Redwall, if we applied your view to people in every walk of life we wouldn't have any leaders at all. Does his personal life affect his ability as a player and a leader? I don't think it does. There is no conflict within either his club or the England team. I do concede the point that he should be a role model to youngsters, but what he has done is so commonplace these days that most people will say 'Well, at least he's human'. Reply #4. Feb 05 10, 3:29 AM |
redwaldo
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I'm an Aussie too but I follow the EPL. I agree with the poster, its a difficult issue.I don't think private life should be judged in public,but does he lose the respect of his English/Chelsea team mates because of behaviour. I think part of the problem is the huge salaries these sportsmen command.it tends to give them an inflated sense of their identity Reply #5. Feb 05 10, 3:37 AM |
supersal1
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Well, as several of his team mates have also had flings with the same woman, I suppose it can be said he's a team player! Recent events have shown that he has no concept of loyalty (repeatedly cheating on his wife), no self control and no thought beyond satisfying his personal desires whenever the mood takes him. I'm not sure those are desirable qualities in a team captain. He's also a hypocrite, not long ago he gave an interview extolling the virtues of honesty. He enjoys his position in the public eye and uses it to try to bully other people, yet also uses it to try and gag the press, citing his right to a family life. Let's face it, there are plenty of other footballers out there and I'd have thought there must be one or two better qualified for the job. Reply #6. Feb 05 10, 3:44 AM |
| Redwallcrazy
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"Redwall, if we applied your view to people in every walk of life we wouldn't have any leaders at all. Does his personal life affect his ability as a player and a leader? I don't think it does. There is no conflict within either his club or the England team. I do concede the point that he should be a role model to youngsters, but what he has done is so commonplace these days that most people will say 'Well, at least he's human'." Yeah, you're right. I didn't think of it that way, thanks for telling me! Reply #7. Feb 05 10, 4:44 AM |
| romeomikegolf
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Sally, as you know I follow rugby much more than football. If what you say is correct, then I agree he is a hypocrite and should be sacked. The problem is, who else is there to take his place as England captain? I leave that to the football supporters to comment. Reply #8. Feb 05 10, 5:22 AM |
| supersal1
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There seem to be plenty of footballers, surely there must be one other who could captain England? If he was sick, or injured, or dropped dead, they'd be able to find someone. Reply #9. Feb 05 10, 6:20 AM |
sherry75
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David Beckham and even the saintly Gary Linaker both cheated on their wives, Beckham was captain of the England side, am sure someone will tell me whether Gary was at any time. Really cant stand Terry, but even if he were demoted from Captaincy, he may well be in the same team as Wayne Bridge come the World Cup. Where we have a country where the future king cheated on his young wife, really don't have an issue with him being captain if Capello choses him. Think the red-tops are clutching at straws for any story concerning Terry... what a waste of newsprint. Reply #10. Feb 05 10, 7:37 AM |
| BxBarracuda
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I have heard about the story and know of other times such things have occured in soccer and other sports between teamates. One from baseball involved the Houston Astros best hitter and best pitcher in 1999. The pitcher who was linked to the hitters wife, was traded that season. It depends on the two players involved, if it will have any serious effect on the team. Reply #11. Feb 05 10, 8:07 AM |
REDVIKING57
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Well,it appears that 'those that are without sin' have got their way. John Terry has been stripped of the England captaincy. Reply #12. Feb 05 10, 10:33 AM |
poneke
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I'm pleased he's gone. Not just for the recent stuff, this fella has got a history of unpleasant shyster-ness.Just one example:awhile back he was ticketed for parking in disability spots (much like our current Minister Of Finance when he went for a haircut recently). This inclination to 'compartmentalise' people's behaviour is just wrong.The 'content of one's character'(As a measure to judge a person) were words uttered by the Rev Martin Luther King. So;I for one, think John Terry's 'character' is as an important a factor as is his football skills.This isn't about him being a professional footballer; it's about him being of fit "skill AND character" to lead his country on the international stage. He's not off the team, he's just not the right man to be leading his country and 'setting the tone' for the culture in the squad. Reply #13. Feb 06 10, 3:48 AM |
nasty_liar
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Not to worry all! Now we've got rid of the adulterous one, the new England captain likes skipping drugs tests and the new vice captain likes to get drunk and throw his fists around! I guess nobody is perfect... In my view footballers are often people thrust into a life of privilige that would likely not have been their destiny without their talent and so are not able to cope with the demands that come with it. In short, most of them are idiots.... but to those of us that love the game they become heroes. Nobody wants to hear about their 'hero' cheating or fighting, or anything else. I don't condone it, but I can understand it. I don't see what his personal life has to do with his workplace unless transgressions were occuring during 'work hours' as it were or unless it affected him in the workplace - maybe it has? Reply #14. Feb 06 10, 5:48 AM |
mjws1968
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Silly revolutionary idea, but they should put the team that plays the best football forward to play in the world cup, regardless of their morality of lack thereof. I mean if you tried to find an England Team that was staffed entirely by players that had never committed a s*xual indiscretion you would be plumbing the depths of Division 2 or worse, it seems to go with the culture, and sacking Terry (like or dislike him) and keeping the likes of Wayne Rooney in the team is total hypocrisy. (And wasnt one of the Ferdinands accused of watching couples having s*x in cars in car parks a few years back, I think they call the practise "dogging"). Yet again the people in charge of soccer have bowed to the pressure placed upon them by the press that leaked the story in the first place, it will all end up in tears, and bickering amongst the players that will result in another early exit (or not) from the World Cup. Cut the hype, stick to the sport. Reply #15. Feb 08 10, 6:41 PM |
lesley153
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I haven't taken much notice of football recently and hadn't given John Terry any thought till this news broke. My first thought was that sacking him for adultery was an appalling piece of knee-jerk overreaction. Surely he got the job on his playing ability? Then I read the posts in this thread, and thought what a thoroughly reprehensible person he is - it sounds like the affair is the least of his sins. Was he doing a good job till the news hit the fan? Is it possible that the managers don't like him, wanted to get rid of him, and this has given them the excuse they needed? Reply #16. Feb 08 10, 9:04 PM |
| poneke
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Man City wiped the smile off England's 'Dad of the Year'/Terry with a 4-2 thrashing of Chelsea overnight. Now that's got to feel good:-) Reply #17. Feb 27 10, 5:16 PM |
| redwaldo
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A similar situation occurred in Aussie Rules football a few years ago where one of the best players of the game, Wayne Carey, had a fling with a team-mate's wife. After the dust had settled,he had to go to another team ( Adelaide Crows) in order to continue his career. Reply #18. Feb 27 10, 5:33 PM |
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