Subject: History's Mysteries
Posted by: Cymruambyth
Date: Feb 19 09
There are many unresolved mysteries in history. For instance, who really killed the princes in the Tower (my money is on Henry VII)? What happened to the Roanoke settlers? Where exactly did Judge Crater get to? What would you like to see resolved?
Posted by: Cymruambyth
Date: Feb 19 09
There are many unresolved mysteries in history. For instance, who really killed the princes in the Tower (my money is on Henry VII)? What happened to the Roanoke settlers? Where exactly did Judge Crater get to? What would you like to see resolved?
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mjws1968 
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The Stone Age experts are split, some say glaciation, some say movement by human agents from Pembrokeshire, we will never really know. Farming began in the UK during the Neolithic period, much later than in the Middle East, but evidence of primitive field systems in Dartmoor at the time of Stonehenge would suggest that crops were grown and animals herded, but it was still in the early stages, and hunting and gathering of uncultivated plants was still common judging by the bone and seed finds at Neolithic sites, and moving stones a long distance would have been detrimental to both activities. Reply #21. Mar 06 09, 6:17 PM |
Pagiedamon
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Did Lady Godiva really take that ride? Hmm... Reply #22. Mar 07 09, 2:05 PM |
Humanist
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What was the cause of the fever which resulted in the death of Alexander the Great? Was he really poisoned? Or did he suffer from a congenital defect? Reply #23. Mar 07 09, 9:17 PM |
| mjws1968
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The Lady Godiva (or Godgifu to give her non-latinised name) ride is unlikely, Saxon noblewomen, especially pious ones who founded so many religious houses in the Midlands, were very unlikely to appear naked in public, a religious penance ride in a shift is more likely, but the myth didnt arise till 200 years or more later, and was probably Coventry's way of attracting lots of money-spending pilgrims. There is a very good BBC article that tells you most of the pertinent information, here's the address. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2000/newsmakers/1507606.stm Reply #24. Mar 08 09, 6:56 PM |
tnrees
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Some people have sugested Godiva rode bareback rather than bare. Reply #25. Mar 09 09, 6:49 AM |
| Pagiedamon
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Or that she rode without her jewels (which would be "naked" for a noblewoman). Thanks, MJWS! Reply #26. Mar 09 09, 11:10 AM |
| mjws1968
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For a Saxon noblewoman to do either in public would be shocking, but reading past the hype in the historical accounts, contemporary and subsequent, she was an extraordinary and atypical woman, so it is very possible. Roger of Wendover was a notorious fantasist writing a century later, but there is a grain of truth within his possibly fictional tale. Reply #27. Mar 11 09, 9:03 AM |
Arpeggionist
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A lot of great mysteries out there. A few have always been on my mind, but one I'd like to bring up now: Over the years Johannes Brahms composed a lot more music than he published. Among his unpublished works were some pieces that might have been serious masterpieces - a second violin concerto, an earlier violin sonata, an early piano trio (which some claim to have found), a second Academic Festival Overture... But the one that most intrigues me is a fifth symphony. He'd finished a piano reduction of it in 1886 and was able to play it along with a friend of his, Ignaz Brüll, for a number of friends and critics, but the orchestral version never saw light. Some of the material, some claim, was recycled and used in other pieces which are well known by now. But for the most part, the symphony and all these other would-be masterpieces vanished before anyone ever heard them. I would have liked to judge them myself before Brahms doomed them to the same fate as most of his sketches (which he burned). Reply #28. Mar 12 09, 3:12 PM |
Cymruambyth
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And then there's the whole Shakespearian conytoversy. I'm inclined to believe that Will wrote his own plays because there are so many Warwickshire references in them. Some maintain that Marlowe was the author (good trick since Marlowe died in 1593, 26 years before Shakespeare and Shakespeare's last play 'The Tempest' was written c1611). I've never been keen on the Baconian theory either. Have you read any of Bacon's poetry? Baon's [oems aren't in the same league as Shakespeare's! Reply #29. Mar 12 09, 7:21 PM |
| Arpeggionist
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I personally believe that William Shakespeare was a blanket name for a number of authors writing under royal patronage. The variety of subjects touched on in the plays, and the variety of styles in the writing, suggests that perhaps there were a number of authors. (If people can claim the Bible had more authors than those credited, why not Shakespeare's plays? Come to think of it, nobody knows as yet exactly who wrote every word of the Bible...) Reply #30. Mar 12 09, 8:53 PM |
| Cymruambyth
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Arpeggionist, The style of Shakespeare's writing is too consistent for the plays/sonnets to have been written by more than one person. Reply #31. Mar 13 09, 8:11 AM |
| Arpeggionist
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So is the style of the Torah. You won't find any non-religious scholar who will tell you it had only one author. Reply #32. Mar 13 09, 2:28 PM |
| mjws1968
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There are a lot of standard features that need to be included in a successful Elizabethan play to get the audiences in, but the people who believe that more than one person wrote those plays are just jealous of his ability to produce quantity and quality. For a start Bacon's style differs from any of the plays as my former lecturer the famous Shakespearian expert Kate Belsey told us, and there is a consistency of language that cannot really be mimicked by another author, maybe he had an apprentice who filled in the standard dramatic sections for him, but the man himself was responsible for the wonderful end product. We know so little about him, but its not Bacon or Marlowe, the style is wrong for them. Reply #33. Mar 14 09, 12:06 AM |
hovenaut
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I've been fascinated w/ several already mentioned - going w/ the Mary Celeste, the Lost Roanoke Colony, and throwing in the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. Reply #34. Mar 14 09, 6:19 AM |
| Cymruambyth
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Isn't Hoffa supposed to be buried under the goal posts of a New York football stadium? or maybe he hoofed off to South America with the union funds - it could have happened that way! Reply #35. Mar 16 09, 9:04 AM |
| Arpeggionist
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They checked the New York goalposts - he's not there. But my cousin was born the day after his mysterious disappearence. Reply #36. Mar 16 09, 10:14 AM |
| Cymruambyth
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I guess that means tha your cousin is not a suspect in the Hoffa case, Arpeggionist? Reply #37. Mar 19 09, 1:17 AM |
stuthehistoryguy
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"And then there's the whole Shakespearian conytoversy. I'm inclined to believe that Will wrote his own plays because there are so many Warwickshire references in them." If you read Stephen Greenblatt's "Will in the World", that will REALLY make a Shakespeare-only person of you. On a vast array of points, the Bard's plays correlate terribly well with what is known of his life. Reply #38. Mar 19 09, 5:58 AM |
| Arpeggionist
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Well, Cym, do you believe in reincarnation?... One of my favorite lines, I forget which Simpsons episode it was from... The police storm into the Simpson house, where Grandpa is babysitting. When the cops start asking him questions, he says: "Okay, I confess, I am the Lindburgh baby!" Reply #39. Mar 19 09, 8:27 PM |
dfc4385
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The football stadium where Hoffa's remains are supposedly buried is not in New York. Even though the team has New York in its name, the stadium is in New Jersey. But who cares? Reply #40. Mar 19 09, 8:52 PM |
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