Subject: Soon: New reward system and more
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Date: Aug 13 23
If you've been reading the right posts, you may have noticed that we've been busy behind the scenes. In fact, we're working on... big stuff.
While we're not quite ready yet to spill the beans, we'll say this much - a key element will be a new reward system to replace the current level system that has, over the last fifteen years, grown out of balance. Back in 2008, we had like 50 badges and point levels and badge levels were comparable. Level 80 was REALLY a lot.
As it stands now, top players have exceeded 250 levels - and almost all of that is from getting tier 1 on major badges. Almost nothing else matters - point levels are FAR apart once you are above 5 million or so.
Come September (we'll announce the exact date closer to release) this will change. The new system will give points some proper value beyond the first few again, it will reward gaining tiers, authoring, team play and just being active throughout the site. There will also be less of a distinction between minis and full badges - a differentiation we mainly made to keep levels from reaching 600 and above anyway!
Most of the back-end calculations are in place already - meaning you are already being tracked and rewarded for plays in ways you don't know... yet. But if you want to get a head start into the new system on top of what you've already done - gaining some tiers, playing a wide variety of games and authoring quizzes, questions and crosswords can do that.
Our end goal is to make FunTrivia feel a lot more like what it deserves to be: Not a random collection of quizzes and games, but rather ONE game pretty much like an MMO (massively multiplayer online) game- but one where you don't win by grinding character stats but rather where YOUR OWN skills determine your progress and success. All the elements for it have been there for a long time. We'll finally combine them.
(Of course if you prefer, you can keep treating things like a collection like you always did - you will still be able to play quizzes, win an hourly or work towards a GC title. But you can also look at the whole - and play FunTrivia.)
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Please note: We're announcing this early so you will know that we're working - and you may occasionally see things briefly not working as they should. If a problem should persist, by all means let us know immediately - major changes on a live system won't come without bugs.
Editors are already using the new system, so we hope to have enough testing to have a smoothly working version on release day that won't interfere with your play experience due to bugs. However, if you're absolutely bent on spending one month on THAT monthly you've been missing for ages and you know it's going to be tight, September might not be the best choice if you're worried about bugs. On the other hand, the transition might make players shift priorities and it could be easier than ever. It could go either way!
I would also like to ask you to not immediately knee-jerk react with a "rubbish" but rather wait until you've played with the new system.
Yes, it's always going to take some adjusting and a few players - those who have exclusively targeted high level by taking one tier of each badge and moving on - may find themselves in a less remarkable position. However if you're one of those players, you will also find ample easy opportunities to boost your tier count before the system goes live - so now is the time and you'll find it rather easy to catch up to your old status once you've harvested what should be ample low-hanging fruit for you!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Date: Aug 13 23
If you've been reading the right posts, you may have noticed that we've been busy behind the scenes. In fact, we're working on... big stuff.
While we're not quite ready yet to spill the beans, we'll say this much - a key element will be a new reward system to replace the current level system that has, over the last fifteen years, grown out of balance. Back in 2008, we had like 50 badges and point levels and badge levels were comparable. Level 80 was REALLY a lot.
As it stands now, top players have exceeded 250 levels - and almost all of that is from getting tier 1 on major badges. Almost nothing else matters - point levels are FAR apart once you are above 5 million or so.
Come September (we'll announce the exact date closer to release) this will change. The new system will give points some proper value beyond the first few again, it will reward gaining tiers, authoring, team play and just being active throughout the site. There will also be less of a distinction between minis and full badges - a differentiation we mainly made to keep levels from reaching 600 and above anyway!
Most of the back-end calculations are in place already - meaning you are already being tracked and rewarded for plays in ways you don't know... yet. But if you want to get a head start into the new system on top of what you've already done - gaining some tiers, playing a wide variety of games and authoring quizzes, questions and crosswords can do that.
Our end goal is to make FunTrivia feel a lot more like what it deserves to be: Not a random collection of quizzes and games, but rather ONE game pretty much like an MMO (massively multiplayer online) game- but one where you don't win by grinding character stats but rather where YOUR OWN skills determine your progress and success. All the elements for it have been there for a long time. We'll finally combine them.
(Of course if you prefer, you can keep treating things like a collection like you always did - you will still be able to play quizzes, win an hourly or work towards a GC title. But you can also look at the whole - and play FunTrivia.)
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Please note: We're announcing this early so you will know that we're working - and you may occasionally see things briefly not working as they should. If a problem should persist, by all means let us know immediately - major changes on a live system won't come without bugs.
Editors are already using the new system, so we hope to have enough testing to have a smoothly working version on release day that won't interfere with your play experience due to bugs. However, if you're absolutely bent on spending one month on THAT monthly you've been missing for ages and you know it's going to be tight, September might not be the best choice if you're worried about bugs. On the other hand, the transition might make players shift priorities and it could be easier than ever. It could go either way!
I would also like to ask you to not immediately knee-jerk react with a "rubbish" but rather wait until you've played with the new system.
Yes, it's always going to take some adjusting and a few players - those who have exclusively targeted high level by taking one tier of each badge and moving on - may find themselves in a less remarkable position. However if you're one of those players, you will also find ample easy opportunities to boost your tier count before the system goes live - so now is the time and you'll find it rather easy to catch up to your old status once you've harvested what should be ample low-hanging fruit for you!
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| Terry
Head Honcho 
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There is a random element to them, but they are not entirely random. Reply #401. Sep 15 23, 8:24 AM |
Stonecreek
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So, I just achieved the Epic Improvement II challenge, and the text in the Daily Challenges page said I should get 10 prestige points for it. However, I only got 5. So either the flavor text needs to change when you complete an upgrade to an Epic Challenge you already completed the first level of, or the prestige points distribution needs to be fixed. Reply #402. Sep 15 23, 11:12 AM |
misstified 
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What you said sounds intriguing Terry. I've seen that there is less chance of getting an explorer point for those in higher ranks but do you feel able to share some more about the randomness, or lack of it? Reply #403. Sep 15 23, 11:37 AM |
| Terry
Head Honcho
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"So, I just achieved the Epic Improvement II challenge, and the text in the Daily Challenges page said I should get 10 prestige points for it. However, I only got 5. So either the flavor text needs to change when you complete an upgrade to an Epic Challenge you already completed the first level of, or the prestige points distribution needs to be fixed.' It's working correctly but the challenge page is not taking into account the fact that you lose the old flag. I'll have to fix that. Reply #404. Sep 15 23, 1:43 PM |
| Terry
Head Honcho
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"What you said sounds intriguing Terry. I've seen that there is less chance of getting an explorer point for those in higher ranks but do you feel able to share some more about the randomness, or lack of it?" I don't want to get too specific. But think of it like an earthquake building up on the edge of a tectonic plate. When there are no earthquakes for a while the stresses build up, and an earthquake becomes more likely... Reply #405. Sep 15 23, 1:45 PM |
| Stonecreek
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I was at the epicenter of one, then! I got four exploration points in two minutes once (I think the day after the system debuted). Since then, they've basically been pretty evenly spaced out. Reply #406. Sep 15 23, 2:19 PM |
| misstified
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Thanks Terry Reply #407. Sep 15 23, 2:45 PM |
blaster2014
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It would be nice to get a simple epic. Reply #408. Sep 15 23, 4:14 PM |
flopsymopsy
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I'm with Blaster. Maybe we could get them on alternate days, just to be fair. ;) If only I knew how to bribe the fox with something other than rabbit stew. Reply #409. Sep 15 23, 4:56 PM |
MrNobody97
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I've heard Epics called a lot of things, but "simple" was not among them. But I think I know what you mean. It's easy to wait and wait for a flag only to finally receive one whose color you've already bested. Drawing an Epic at all is a rarity. Getting one of the colors you don't already have becomes an increasing rarity too -- or at least it feels that way. Flopsy, if I could give you one of my spare yellows, I would! ... Well, at least all the colors have an equal chance, so sooner or later you're bound to be pleasantly surprised. (I think here Wesley would add, "We put 'Totally Epic' in the Diamond Dome for good reason.") Reply #410. Sep 15 23, 8:44 PM |
Luckycharm60
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Just received my first visit from the Challenge Fairy rewarding me with another Daily Challenge - nice one! How often should we expect this? Reply #411. Sep 18 23, 12:47 PM |
| Luckycharm60
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And on the subject of Epic challenges I have been waiting years to recive the green epic challenge at all, never mind the upgrades. This in the only one I am waiting for to complete Totally Epic. I guess I just need to keep waiting, but can anyone reassure that the green one does actually exist? Reply #412. Sep 18 23, 12:54 PM |
rossian
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The Challenge Fairy has been set up to give you a fifth challenge every day that you complete all four of your original challenges. The fifth challenge will always be the level you need most, i.e. the one you have completed fewest of. Great perk. Reply #413. Sep 18 23, 12:58 PM |
kaddarsgirl
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Luckycharm60, I'm missing green as well (and orange). Reply #414. Sep 18 23, 12:58 PM |
| Luckycharm60
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thanks Rossian - definitely a great perk!! Reply #415. Sep 18 23, 1:14 PM |
| Stonecreek
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I've had three flag white at least four times now... twice within the span of the last month! Reply #416. Sep 18 23, 1:23 PM |
| rossian
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Luckycharm, I can assure you that the green Epic does exist, and so do the yellow and orange. I have all of them and, to really rub it in, I have them all at triple flag level too. It's OK - I know you probably hate me now! I still get Epics on occasions. Some I'll do but there are couple which I look at and think 'never again'. Reply #417. Sep 19 23, 6:49 AM |
| kaddarsgirl
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I don't seem to have a whole lot of luck in getting that "tiny chance" of an Epic with the new system of "if you finish 3 challenges, you have a chance tomorrow". Granted, I just started really playing again this past month... It's been years since I've seen an Epic appear (mostly because I wasn't playing, ha), but the first 6 Epics I was offered way back when *were* all unique colors, so that's pretty lucky, I guess! Reply #418. Sep 19 23, 8:33 AM |
| Luckycharm60
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thanks Rossian - not at all - my comments were a bit 'tongue in cheek'. I have 5 at triple level and 2 at double level already so just a bit impatient for the elusive green one!! Reply #419. Sep 19 23, 9:48 AM |
| kaddarsgirl
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I've just noticed a new Mystery Boxes perk show up in the list. Hope mine doesn't show up at a time when I'm not online... I'm so curious to see what it is. Reply #420. Sep 19 23, 3:38 PM |
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