Subject: Soon: New reward system and more
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Date: Aug 13 23
If you've been reading the right posts, you may have noticed that we've been busy behind the scenes. In fact, we're working on... big stuff.
While we're not quite ready yet to spill the beans, we'll say this much - a key element will be a new reward system to replace the current level system that has, over the last fifteen years, grown out of balance. Back in 2008, we had like 50 badges and point levels and badge levels were comparable. Level 80 was REALLY a lot.
As it stands now, top players have exceeded 250 levels - and almost all of that is from getting tier 1 on major badges. Almost nothing else matters - point levels are FAR apart once you are above 5 million or so.
Come September (we'll announce the exact date closer to release) this will change. The new system will give points some proper value beyond the first few again, it will reward gaining tiers, authoring, team play and just being active throughout the site. There will also be less of a distinction between minis and full badges - a differentiation we mainly made to keep levels from reaching 600 and above anyway!
Most of the back-end calculations are in place already - meaning you are already being tracked and rewarded for plays in ways you don't know... yet. But if you want to get a head start into the new system on top of what you've already done - gaining some tiers, playing a wide variety of games and authoring quizzes, questions and crosswords can do that.
Our end goal is to make FunTrivia feel a lot more like what it deserves to be: Not a random collection of quizzes and games, but rather ONE game pretty much like an MMO (massively multiplayer online) game- but one where you don't win by grinding character stats but rather where YOUR OWN skills determine your progress and success. All the elements for it have been there for a long time. We'll finally combine them.
(Of course if you prefer, you can keep treating things like a collection like you always did - you will still be able to play quizzes, win an hourly or work towards a GC title. But you can also look at the whole - and play FunTrivia.)
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Please note: We're announcing this early so you will know that we're working - and you may occasionally see things briefly not working as they should. If a problem should persist, by all means let us know immediately - major changes on a live system won't come without bugs.
Editors are already using the new system, so we hope to have enough testing to have a smoothly working version on release day that won't interfere with your play experience due to bugs. However, if you're absolutely bent on spending one month on THAT monthly you've been missing for ages and you know it's going to be tight, September might not be the best choice if you're worried about bugs. On the other hand, the transition might make players shift priorities and it could be easier than ever. It could go either way!
I would also like to ask you to not immediately knee-jerk react with a "rubbish" but rather wait until you've played with the new system.
Yes, it's always going to take some adjusting and a few players - those who have exclusively targeted high level by taking one tier of each badge and moving on - may find themselves in a less remarkable position. However if you're one of those players, you will also find ample easy opportunities to boost your tier count before the system goes live - so now is the time and you'll find it rather easy to catch up to your old status once you've harvested what should be ample low-hanging fruit for you!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Date: Aug 13 23
If you've been reading the right posts, you may have noticed that we've been busy behind the scenes. In fact, we're working on... big stuff.
While we're not quite ready yet to spill the beans, we'll say this much - a key element will be a new reward system to replace the current level system that has, over the last fifteen years, grown out of balance. Back in 2008, we had like 50 badges and point levels and badge levels were comparable. Level 80 was REALLY a lot.
As it stands now, top players have exceeded 250 levels - and almost all of that is from getting tier 1 on major badges. Almost nothing else matters - point levels are FAR apart once you are above 5 million or so.
Come September (we'll announce the exact date closer to release) this will change. The new system will give points some proper value beyond the first few again, it will reward gaining tiers, authoring, team play and just being active throughout the site. There will also be less of a distinction between minis and full badges - a differentiation we mainly made to keep levels from reaching 600 and above anyway!
Most of the back-end calculations are in place already - meaning you are already being tracked and rewarded for plays in ways you don't know... yet. But if you want to get a head start into the new system on top of what you've already done - gaining some tiers, playing a wide variety of games and authoring quizzes, questions and crosswords can do that.
Our end goal is to make FunTrivia feel a lot more like what it deserves to be: Not a random collection of quizzes and games, but rather ONE game pretty much like an MMO (massively multiplayer online) game- but one where you don't win by grinding character stats but rather where YOUR OWN skills determine your progress and success. All the elements for it have been there for a long time. We'll finally combine them.
(Of course if you prefer, you can keep treating things like a collection like you always did - you will still be able to play quizzes, win an hourly or work towards a GC title. But you can also look at the whole - and play FunTrivia.)
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Please note: We're announcing this early so you will know that we're working - and you may occasionally see things briefly not working as they should. If a problem should persist, by all means let us know immediately - major changes on a live system won't come without bugs.
Editors are already using the new system, so we hope to have enough testing to have a smoothly working version on release day that won't interfere with your play experience due to bugs. However, if you're absolutely bent on spending one month on THAT monthly you've been missing for ages and you know it's going to be tight, September might not be the best choice if you're worried about bugs. On the other hand, the transition might make players shift priorities and it could be easier than ever. It could go either way!
I would also like to ask you to not immediately knee-jerk react with a "rubbish" but rather wait until you've played with the new system.
Yes, it's always going to take some adjusting and a few players - those who have exclusively targeted high level by taking one tier of each badge and moving on - may find themselves in a less remarkable position. However if you're one of those players, you will also find ample easy opportunities to boost your tier count before the system goes live - so now is the time and you'll find it rather easy to catch up to your old status once you've harvested what should be ample low-hanging fruit for you!
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andymuenz 
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Kkt, looking at your profile, it looks like most of your prestige points have been through exploration or gaining points. Those points don't show up on the team logs. The ones that do show up are the ones earned for completing challenges, advancing tiers in a badge, or earning prestige through team points. I see that you earned a badge and advanced a tier in another today. Are those showing up on your team's prestige logs? Reply #461. Oct 04 23, 2:08 PM |
kkt
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Thanks for reply. Yes, my badge did show up. That's not my point. Every time my team mates progress a level - eg 13c to 13d - they get an acknowledgement in bold type saying congratulations. This has never happened for me, although I have progressed 3 levels since kick-off. My team thinks I'm shirking! Why am I persona non grata? Reply #462. Oct 06 23, 2:12 AM |
| kkt
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Supplementary to previous entry. I've just seen that these bold type entries are called messages. It would appear that I'm not ' on message '. Story of my life ! Reply #463. Oct 06 23, 7:08 AM |
rossian
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I'm not sure whether it means you get a personal message, or it's the one that appears under Member Accomplishments and labelled as a message. For example, I can see that one of the players in the group I'm in has this listed in bold: Message Advanced to Elder Mystic: 21b. Congratulations!! I can see similar messages to players at lower levels too. I'd be surprised if your advancement isn't being recognised in the same way, Reply #464. Oct 06 23, 8:15 AM |
| kkt
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Well I promise you it isn't. If it's a blip in my case, it's possible that others are affected as well? I'm not an idiot & would not have brought this up for no reason. Reply #465. Oct 06 23, 9:09 AM |
| rossian
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I apologise for trying to help. I won't do it again. Reply #466. Oct 06 23, 10:25 AM |
| kkt
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Also trying to help by pointing up a glitch in the new system. Certainly disinclined to repeat that exercise ! Reply #467. Oct 06 23, 12:51 PM |
postcards2go
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kkt, Generally, the Forums are the best place to voice concerns about anything that may be a glitch. I've passed this along to someone who may be able to help clear this up. Reply #468. Oct 06 23, 1:31 PM |
WesleyCrusher
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kkt, I can't reproduce your issue, but maybe the system is slightly confused about what team you are in. Your personal log certainly shows your gains. Can you just try to leave and immediately rejoin your team, please? Then get a prestige and see if it shows in the log. Reply #469. Oct 06 23, 2:21 PM |
| kkt
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Ok. If you think that will help but I feel it won't. All my general prestige points, team points, achievements etc. show up in the team prestige log. That's fine. What doesn't happen is a message, in bold type, saying that I have progressed to another level & congratulations. It's unimportant to me & in the general scheme of things but shows a fault that might affect others. Thank you for offering a practical, possible solution. Reply #470. Oct 07 23, 12:19 AM |
flopsymopsy
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kkt, there does seem to have been a problem affecting the visibility of your results which stemmed from something very simple. The first time players log on to the new system they find they have a new rank and a long message appears on their home page outlining what comes next. At the bottom of that message it says "Dismiss this message". The system was set up so that unless and until you clicked on that link players wouldn't get any new messages about changes in status and, as there were no new messages, they couldn't be referred to anywhere else, such as on team pages. It seems that you did not dismiss the message or, if you did, the system did not register it. Either way, no more messages were sent - and none were highlighted in your team's list. Terry has now changed this so that players can leave the message there if they wish, even though it takes up space we had assumed people would like to switch back to their usual home page layouts. As a result of that change you should see future messages in the appropriate lists. Reply #471. Oct 07 23, 6:54 AM |
| kkt
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Thank you so much for explaining all that. It never occurred to me to dismiss the page because it provides useful shortcuts/links to pages relating to the current level. For instance, I use it at the moment to access the sage quizzes. Thanks to all who took the trouble to help. What a smashing site this is; so glad I stumbled on it. Reply #472. Oct 07 23, 11:18 AM |
| postcards2go
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kkt... as a Gold member, you might want to consider pinning the challenge, which will still make it easily accessible from your home page. You can also use 'Favorites' to keep track of a particular URL link on the site. Reply #473. Oct 07 23, 12:04 PM |
blaster2014
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Did someone shutoff the prestige points giving machine 1 point yesterday 1today. Reply #474. Oct 08 23, 12:01 PM |
misstified
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I've been wondering the same thing but at least it allows me two points Reply #475. Oct 08 23, 1:36 PM |
Philip_Eno
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^^ Ditto for me yesterday. Just have three in a space of half an hour... :) Reply #476. Oct 08 23, 2:52 PM |
| misstified
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Thanks for saying that Philip_Eno and I won't give up hope just yet Reply #477. Oct 08 23, 3:31 PM |
| Philip_Eno
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^ ...and just received another, one hour on. Reply #478. Oct 08 23, 3:56 PM |
| blaster2014
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3 points today compared to 2 sat and 2 sunday I'm on a roll. Reply #479. Oct 09 23, 3:57 PM |
| blaster2014
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seems 3 or 4 points or less is becoming the normal for me;( Reply #480. Oct 16 23, 6:10 PM |
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