Subject: Richard III 'found'.
Posted by: romeomikegolf
Date: Sep 12 12
Archaeologists think they may have solved a 500 year old mystery by uncovering the remains of Richard III.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-19561018
Posted by: romeomikegolf
Date: Sep 12 12
Archaeologists think they may have solved a 500 year old mystery by uncovering the remains of Richard III.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-19561018
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daver852 
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I've been following this story as well, but I have some reservations. First of all, there's no historical evidence that Richard suffered from any major physical deformity; on the contrary, he had a reputation as a fierce warrior, and at the Battle of Bosworth, he unhorsed John Cheyne, Henry Tudor's standard bearer, a large man who was said to have been 6'8" tall. This feat would have been impossible if he had suffered from severe scoliosis, or any other significant handicap. Still, it will be iteresting to see what the DNA shows. Reply #1. Sep 12 12, 1:54 PM |
slytherinwitch
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Many members of the Richard III Society are absolutely giddy with this latest development. A few comments posted on the Society board regarding a certain Mr. More among other detractors were laugh out loud funny. While all wait for the results of further testing, the results of the dig in Leicester have been holding some of us in rapt attention for some time now, even before the dig began. This is all extremely thrilling. I wish I could be on site to see it all. Reply #2. Sep 12 12, 1:59 PM |
romeomikegolf
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As someone who was born in Bosworth I can't wait for the results. Reply #3. Sep 12 12, 2:20 PM |
C30
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Fascinating stuff.........maybe Shakespeare got it a bit right after all - it seems this skeleton HAS a physical deformity - nothing like as much or as advanced as popular imagery but enough to make one shoulder seem higher than other. No reason why this should have in any way handicapped his martial prowess. The popular conception of Richard III being "Hunchback" is purely down to Shakespeare, who after all was writing during a Tudor regime, so it would have not been a good "career move" to show Tudor opponents in good light. If DNA tests prove this skeleton is Richard II, then popular conception of his appearance must change........"fascinating" (as Mr Spock would say). Reply #4. Sep 12 12, 3:08 PM |
REDVIKING57
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Well, I have been fortunate enough to visit the dig. The site is only about half a mile from my factory. Although I couldn't really see much, the atmosphere was electric! The latest news is quite astounding. Archaeologists have discovered a skeleton where they believe someone of Richard's status would have been buried, within the old friary church. The skeleton has severe spinal abnormalities and a "cleaved-in skull" . Results of DNA tests will take around 12 weeks to complete. Reply #5. Sep 12 12, 3:43 PM |
| romeomikegolf
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I grew up surrounded by local legends regarding Richard. One was about his journey out of Leicester on the eve of the battle. He rode out of Leicester across Bow Bridge. His spur struck the bridge. A local witch, the day before, predicted that where his heel struck on the way out his head would strike on the way back. After the battle he was taken back in to Leicester along the same route, naked and slung across a horse. Legend has it that a cart was coming across the bridge from the opposite direction. The horse carrying Richards body was pulled aside to make way and his head struck the bridge. There is a plaque on Bow Bridge to this day to commemorate his journey from the city. If the bones prove to be Richard it will dispel another legend, that after the sacking of Greyfriars in 1530 his bones were dug up and tossed in to the river Soar and his coffin used as a horse trough. Reply #6. Sep 12 12, 3:53 PM |
| daver852
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I noticed that there was no mention of a coffin. ny word on that? Reply #7. Sep 12 12, 5:24 PM |
| romeomikegolf
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Nothing said yet, but not surprising. He wasn't King when he was buried and it was a low key event. Henry wouldn't have wanted something for Richards followers to venerate. A coffin would have given them something to focus on. Reply #8. Sep 13 12, 5:56 AM |
nautilator
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Have there been any developments on this? I haven't seen anything since this story broke. Reply #9. Oct 24 12, 10:39 PM |
flopsymopsy
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Nope, he's still dead. And may I say, that as Richard was a child of Northamptonshire, this is where he belongs, not over the border in Leicestershire where they let even cheese go mouldy - heaven knows what they could do to a king. Well, we do know... they sent him off to die! Here are some thoughts from David Mitchell on the subject: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2012/oct/25/david-mitchell-soapbox-richard-iii-video Reply #10. Oct 25 12, 6:26 PM |
boxjaw
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RMG. As far as a coffin? How can you put your thoughts into Henry's mind? You have no idea what the man was thinking 527 years ago. None what so ever. Reply #11. Oct 25 12, 11:17 PM |
| romeomikegolf
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It's not my viewpoint, but that of historians. Reply #12. Oct 26 12, 2:14 AM |
| daver852
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I read somewhere that DNA results are expected in December. Actually, there are surviving records showing Henry VII allocated money for Richard's tomb. I think he would almost certainly have been buried in a lead coffin. Well, I guess we'll know in a few months. Reply #13. Oct 26 12, 2:17 AM |
| romeomikegolf
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Latest news is that if the remains prove to be Richard III they will be reburied at Leicester Cathedral. http://www.cathedral.leicester.anglican.org/Highlights/history.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20116118 Reply #14. Oct 31 12, 3:01 PM |
| daver852
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I don't understand why the authorities won't let scientists examine the bones of the "Princes In the Tower" to see if they're legit. Reply #15. Oct 31 12, 4:13 PM |
| romeomikegolf
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An update. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-20391935 Reply #16. Nov 21 12, 12:38 AM |
| daver852
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Results of DNA testing on the bones believed by some to be those of Richard III to be announced February 4: http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-dig-Skeleton-DNA-results-announced/story-17940318-detail/story.html Are bookmakers giving odds on the result? I think it is improbable that these bones belong to Richard, but stranger things have happened. Reply #17. Jan 26 13, 12:07 PM |
| daver852
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They really should let archeologists have a crack at the crypt in St. Peter ad Vincula. We know it contains the remains of a lot of famous people who should be readily identifiable. We could learn, for instance, whether Anne Boleyn really did have a sixth finger one one of her hands. Reply #18. Jan 26 13, 4:00 PM |
| slytherinwitch
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The University of Leicester has just announced a DNA match and other scientific evidence consistent with the remains of Richard III having been found. It's him. Reply #19. Feb 04 13, 4:42 AM |
| romeomikegolf
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21063882 Reply #20. Feb 04 13, 6:16 AM |
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