Subject: Children in pubs and resturants ?
Posted by: s-m-w
Date: May 05 10
Just arrived back from town after a day’s shopping; nothing unusual about that or that we had a late breakfast in the Copa in Cheltenham (which I can strongly recommend).
OK, long story short...
Was just about to tuck into a wonderful “Full English” (11.30) when in walked mother, daughter with one 4 year old girl and a baby boy approx 10 months into the selfsame pub/restaurant my initial thoughts were “please sit anywhere but not close to us” and looking around many of the other patrons felt the same. But, no such luck! The noise of screaming and throwing of anything within grasp of the brats then ensued. Many of the people sitting around either just left the establishment or took their food /drink to other tables hoping to continue in peace.
Question, am I and others who would like to enjoy their food/drink in such places being unreasonable, or is it time that people with unruly peace disrupting kids were asked to either stay at home or control their kids?
It was a dark day in my opinion when the licence laws changed in U.K to allow children onto licensed premises.
Rant over.
Posted by: s-m-w
Date: May 05 10
Just arrived back from town after a day’s shopping; nothing unusual about that or that we had a late breakfast in the Copa in Cheltenham (which I can strongly recommend).
OK, long story short...
Was just about to tuck into a wonderful “Full English” (11.30) when in walked mother, daughter with one 4 year old girl and a baby boy approx 10 months into the selfsame pub/restaurant my initial thoughts were “please sit anywhere but not close to us” and looking around many of the other patrons felt the same. But, no such luck! The noise of screaming and throwing of anything within grasp of the brats then ensued. Many of the people sitting around either just left the establishment or took their food /drink to other tables hoping to continue in peace.
Question, am I and others who would like to enjoy their food/drink in such places being unreasonable, or is it time that people with unruly peace disrupting kids were asked to either stay at home or control their kids?
It was a dark day in my opinion when the licence laws changed in U.K to allow children onto licensed premises.
Rant over.
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paulmallon 
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After about my third beer, they don't usually bother me that much:-) Reply #81. Mar 28 14, 1:57 PM |
ElusiveDream
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I recently heard that an American café owner has come under fire for shouting at a crying child. Fortunately I don't own a restaurant (and probably never will), but if I did, I would ban children under a certain age. It's not that I don't like kids, but I wouldn't want my customers complaining that their dining experiences are being disrupted by loud or misbehaving children. I would prefer them to be able to eat their meals in peace. Reply #82. Jul 22 15, 1:38 AM |
13LuckyLady
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Dream, children come in all sizes and ages. I would far prefer a discontented child than have to have another discussion with a 20 year old about how tossing lobster on other guests and tables is immature especially when they are not a member of your party. Frankly, any adult who yells at a child, especially a crying one, and then brags about how 'my yelling at the child shut her up' is NO adult. The owner/commander/bully in charge of the restaurant may believe she is in the right. No one who bullies a child is ever right! Yes, she silenced the child and saved the day. Far too many other 'adults' sat on their humanity while placing the blame on a child and doing nothing at all. Did any adult truly act like one? Nope, but praises abound for the nasty, mean, beastly owner who bested a child. Wow! Reply #83. Jul 22 15, 2:57 AM |
supersal1
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But on the bright side, she may think twice about throwing lobster around when she's 20. Reply #84. Jul 22 15, 7:21 AM |
| 13LuckyLady
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LOL - too funny! Reply #85. Jul 22 15, 7:50 AM |
C30
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All these posts serve to remind me of all the reasons why I will only eat out, or frequent a modern "family pub", if no other option exists. Reply #86. Jul 22 15, 8:49 AM |
HairyBear
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In defense of the restaurant owner, she had already asked the parents several times over the course of 40 minutes to quiet the child or take her outside, which they refused to do. She could have called the police and had them thrown out. Instead, she did what the parents should have done in the first place and made the kid be quiet. It seems everyone else in the restaurant was pleased with her actions. I won't defend bragging about it on Facebook, however; that was a little strange. Reply #87. Jul 22 15, 11:22 AM |
SisterSeagull
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I don't particularly 'like' many adults and I like children even less... As stated before, pubs and bars are for adults; there are few enough sanctuaries for us these days from screaming babies and irritating youths. Reply #88. Jul 22 15, 11:39 AM |
| 13LuckyLady
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It's acceptable to yell at a child who has no control over anything (21 months of age) and frighten her into shutting up? Is it unreasonable to expect the parents to parent and other adults do something other than yell or complain? The owner yelled at the child after the parent ignored both the child and the owner. Perhaps the child received the anger the owner wished she could have given the parent. Attacking someone who is weaker, or smaller, is cowardly no matter if it is a verbal or a physical attack. Reply #89. Jul 22 15, 1:33 PM |
| 13LuckyLady
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HairyBear, what would the police have done? Thrown them out for what, exactly? Forty minutes wait in a busy restaurant can be considered the norm. So the child screamed from the moment they entered the door? We have the owners word 40 minutes passed. Frankly, considering her attitude is that if you believe her, fine. If you don't believe her, or don't return to the restaurant, it's YOUR loss. The child was screaming. The owner was screaming. The child is bad, bad, bad. The owner is within her rights to chastise a child who should have, obviously, used her words. I do not agree. Reply #90. Jul 22 15, 1:41 PM |
daver852
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I have no objections to children in restaurants, but if you can't teach your children how to behave in public, you shouldn't take them to a place where they will annoy people. Eat at Chuck E. Cheese or some place like that. Reply #91. Jul 22 15, 1:56 PM |
jabb5076
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Too true, Daver. Our job as parents is to teach children how to behave in a civilized society. If you take a child too young to control his/her behavior into a place where others can reasonably expect to have a peaceful meal and said child creates such a disturbance that people can't enjoy the meal they've paid for, then the parents should remove their child from the premises. The situation wasn't the child's fault; it was the parents'. Reply #92. Jul 22 15, 2:23 PM |
| ElusiveDream
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As I've said, if I owned a restaurant, I'd ban children under a certain age. To be precise, no children under the age of six. I'd also have rules that parents who are bringing children into my restaurant would be expected to follow: the children must remain seated and quiet whilst waiting for their meals, they must eat peacefully (no banging things on the tables, etc,) &, once finished, they must wait quietly for the other members of their family to finish eating. If the children show signs of boredom, my staff will happily supply them with pencils & and colouring book. Parents to refuse to comply with these simple rules & allow their children to disturb other diners by screaming, yelling or running around as if the restaurant is a place to play would be asked to leave. There have been times when I've seen children running around in restaurants and they've come close to having hot food and drinks spilt on them because they've been getting in the way of the serving staff. Reply #93. Jul 22 15, 7:00 PM |
| 13LuckyLady
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The other side of the story has appeared in the Washington Post. The response from the owner of the restaurant is also provided. Catering to a certain group of customers, to the exclusion of other customers, is a personal choice. The right to refuse service to anyone is permitted. Hopefully, the owner will provide a list of those she prefers as customers over those she does not and place it at the front door. I doubt anyone who is excluded will starve. There is always another restaurant. Reply #94. Jul 22 15, 7:09 PM |
| ElusiveDream
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So, imagine you owned a popular restaurant or café with an outdoor eating area. How would you react to a female customer changing her baby's dirty nappy TWICE at a table whilst other customers are eating? Apparently, a woman in Brisbane, Australia, did this exact thing and, no surprise, was told that she's no longer welcome at that particular place. Reply #95. Nov 16 16, 7:35 PM |
rockinsteve
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One word - YIKES! Reply #96. Nov 16 16, 9:26 PM |
| wmd
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YIKES is right! How about DOUBLE YIKES, one for each diaper?!?! Reply #97. Nov 16 16, 10:43 PM |
| ElusiveDream
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Not sure what country this happened in, but diners in a fancy restaurant were horrified when a mother allowed her toddler to use the potty right next to their table. Reply #98. Mar 14 17, 4:46 PM |
MiraJane
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Elusive, do you ever find news items about people that don't outrage, disgust, or anger you somehow? The majority of your posts tend towards the doom and gloom side. Reply #99. Mar 14 17, 6:18 PM |
jolana
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I don´t understand why people complain about the kids in the restaurants when most of the society agreed with the ban of smoking on the restaurants. Smokers stopped going to the cafes, smoke in their houses and the vacancies were filled with moms with children. What did you expect? Reply #100. Mar 14 17, 6:26 PM |
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