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Subject: Equal Time For Marlowe

Posted by: daver852
Date: Jun 13 12

I will confine my postings to a topic near and dear to my heart, i.e., that the works now attributed to William Shakespeare were actually written by Christopher Marlowe. My intent is to enlighten and inform, and not to disparage anyone holding a contrary opinion. Rabid Stratfordians are invited to shower me with abuse, and I will gladly answer any questions to the best of my ability.

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Sorry Daver about not posting about Marlowe or the authorship question recently, but I can't think of more to say. No new evidence has come up has it? You and others have covered an awful lot of ground now on this thread. It's a real gem of a resource if anyone has time to read through.

Reply #2281. Apr 11 20, 10:00 AM
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This blog is supposed to be about Shakespeare and Marlowe so please keep it on topic. Conspiracy theories about the current pandemic don't belong here and neither do rebuttals that involve name-calling or attacks on other players. Don't pick fights, don't wind other people up to pick fights, and follow the chat rules. Political discussions are not allowed on the public chatboards.

Reply #2282. Apr 11 20, 1:12 PM
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You got it flopsy.

Reply #2283. Apr 11 20, 3:38 PM
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More on Robert Greene and 'The Upstart Crow' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03qT91wY9FQ

Reply #2284. May 01 20, 11:55 PM
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I am subscribed to this YouTube channel. If you look in the comments, you will see that I engaged in a lengthy argument with some silly woman named Dorothy Willis about it.

Reply #2285. May 08 20, 10:29 PM

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People aren't silly just because they disagree with your interpretation are they?

Reply #2286. May 10 20, 11:21 PM
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Did you mean to leave a link to the channel?

Reply #2287. May 10 20, 11:22 PM
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No link? Seems silly to me.

Reply #2288. May 11 20, 10:17 AM
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Same link you posted, Mixa. No, I don't think all people who disagree with me are silly, only when they make silly arguments.

Reply #2289. May 13 20, 11:18 AM

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If Greene was referring to Alleyn, I just don't get why he would muddy the waters by referring to 'Shake-scene'. That makes everyone think of Shakespeare and though you say he wasn't famous at that time, Daver, we know he was working in the theatre at the time and would have been known in the theatre world which was a small community in a small city in those times. (The population of London was not more than 200,000 by 1600 in a period of growth. The theatre population would have been quite small)

Reply #2290. May 14 20, 9:01 AM
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Because Alleyn was seven feet tall, and had a deep booming voice, and was said to "shake the stage" during his performances. For all we know, when Greene wrote his pamphlet, Willie Shakspere was still holding horses' bridles in the alley. It is doubtful Greene had ever heard of him.

Reply #2291. May 20 20, 3:39 PM

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I was looking for confirmation of Edward Alleyn's height when I came across this passage in an article on his life

' In 1597 Edward left the theatre for a time and traveled with Joan to Sussex. While he was away, Alleyn left Gabriel Spencer in charge of the Admiral's Men. But Spencer was the leader of the troupe for only a few months before his death at the hands of one of England's greatest writers.

While in Sussex, Alleyn received a disturbing letter from his father-in-law, describing the strange and tragic course of events: "Since you were with me I have lost one of my company which hurteth me greatly, that is Gabriell, for he is slain in Hoxton Fields by the hands of Benjamin Jonson". Apparently, the duel between Ben Jonson and Gabriel Spencer was the result of a dispute over which was the better acting company - the Admiral's Men or the company Jonson preferred, the Chamberlain's Men (Shakespeare's acting troupe). Jonson was imprisoned and sentenced to hang, but he pled benefit of clergy and at the last moment was granted a reprieve. He was a free man, but his property was confiscated, and he was branded on the thumb as a felon.'

So even as early as 1597, Ben Jonson was prepared to maintain the Chamberlain's Men (Shakespeare's Company) were better than the Admiral's Men (Henslowe's Company) to the extent of fighting and killing over the assertion and these were probably to top two companies in London. Yet more evidence of Johnson's support for Shakespeare's reputation.



Reply #2292. May 24 20, 1:59 AM
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This is the link to the article link http://www.shakespeare-online.com/biography/edwardalleyn.html

Reply #2293. May 24 20, 1:59 AM
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I knew about Jonson's killing someone. The element of this that was new to me, was the reason for the argument.

Reply #2294. May 24 20, 2:03 AM
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Have just about had it with this site, Rampant cheating, no controls, no responsibility whatsoever. Like CNN in a microcosm.

Reply #2295. May 25 20, 10:50 PM

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I feel you, man. The undisguised bias is clearly evident.

Reply #2296. May 26 20, 9:12 AM
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A link to some selected sonnets with a sentence or two for each summing up their themes.
link https://www.rsc.org.uk/shakespeares-sonnets

Reply #2297. Jun 05 20, 1:27 PM
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This looks interesting.

link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWP2l0i9w_M

Reply #2298. Jun 09 20, 8:50 PM

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Interesting idea but the music doesn't grab me. It seems quite dull. Here's another part. It's no better musically but I see the narrator character is Shakespeare link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hXC14dlcho

Reply #2299. Jun 12 20, 1:51 PM
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This is from an earlier period but I rather like this rap version of Chaucer's prologue in middle English ( with subtitles)
link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E-0PaK4RtI&list=FLGGEn5ziDGQqNRr1m3pwHBg&index=8&t=0s

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