Subject: Equal Time For Marlowe
Posted by: daver852
Date: Jun 13 12
I will confine my postings to a topic near and dear to my heart, i.e., that the works now attributed to William Shakespeare were actually written by Christopher Marlowe. My intent is to enlighten and inform, and not to disparage anyone holding a contrary opinion. Rabid Stratfordians are invited to shower me with abuse, and I will gladly answer any questions to the best of my ability.
Posted by: daver852
Date: Jun 13 12
I will confine my postings to a topic near and dear to my heart, i.e., that the works now attributed to William Shakespeare were actually written by Christopher Marlowe. My intent is to enlighten and inform, and not to disparage anyone holding a contrary opinion. Rabid Stratfordians are invited to shower me with abuse, and I will gladly answer any questions to the best of my ability.
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Reply #2321. Oct 19 20, 11:30 PM |
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I've put it on the 'watch later' as it's 19 minutes long. It starts by saying that Marlowe is not just the author of Shakespeare's works but of several others including Dryden. That's ambitious. Many playwrights in Shakespeare's time must have been sitting with their feet up while the supposedly dead Marlowe did all the work. It also assumes that stories or characters in the plays must be a reflection of the life of the 'true' playwright. I mean creatives are supposed to use their imagination rather than just autobiographical material. Reply #2322. Oct 29 20, 12:50 PM |
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P.S. John Dryden died in 1700 by which time Marlowe would have been 136 years old. Reply #2323. Oct 29 20, 12:54 PM |
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Dave, have you watched the movie "Only Lovers Left Alive"? Gives another explanation of what happened to Marlowe.... Reply #2324. Nov 16 20, 6:46 PM |
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Reply #2325. Nov 29 20, 4:39 PM |
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Reply #2326. Jan 02 21, 12:51 PM |
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Interesting for language nerds? 'Southern US Accents & Shakespeare's Accent'  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rb0HPDnc8YStart at 3:24 to skip to a read comparison.. Reply #2327. Jan 05 21, 8:12 PM |
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Reply #2328. Feb 18 21, 1:16 PM |
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It seems a wonder it survived. Reply #2329. Mar 01 21, 3:02 AM |
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I was wondering who Kitty's face reminded me of. I thought of an actress Selina Cadell who appeared in Midsomer Murders among other things. https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=selina+cadell+actress&form=HDRSC2&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover but then I thought she also looks a bit like a female version of Tom Baker who played the 4th Dr Who (among other things). Reply #2330. Mar 01 21, 3:09 AM |
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Odd questions in Duel today about Elizabeth I asking who she played with as a child (apart from half brother Edward) and how often did she smile. I notice that you've given up on duel, Daver. Reply #2331. May 09 21, 5:56 AM |
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Reply #2332. May 30 21, 10:14 AM |
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Isn't this it Daver? Is it a question of being blocked in the USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsJTbWF1-lg Reply #2333. May 31 21, 8:44 AM |
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Did you see this funny item in the news daver? The second person in the world and the first man to have a Covid vaccination was a certain William Shakespeare of Warwickshire UK. I kid you not. He died recently and an Argentinian news announcer got confused and announced that the great man of literature, William Shakespeare had just died. Reply #2334. May 31 21, 8:51 AM |
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Reply #2335. Jun 18 21, 4:27 PM |
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https://shakespearedocumented.folger.edu/resource/document/account-edmund-tylney-master-revels-listing-plays-performed-year-1604-5 Extract: Two pages of the 10-page 1604–5 Revels book contain a table in three columns. The first column records playing companies, the second records play titles, dates, and venues, and the third records “The poets which mayd the plaies.” Tylney reported, over his signature, a total of 15 court performances, including two masques with music. (A 16th performance, which was to have been a play, was “discharged.”) The 13 remaining performances were all plays, one attributed to (Thomas) Heywood, one to (George) Chapman, and four to (William) “Shaxberd” In the first column are noted ten performances by “the Kings Maiesties plaiers” or “his Maiesties plaiers,” and one performance each by the Queen’s players and the “Boyes of the Chapell.” Plays expressly attributed to “Shaxberd” are “Mesur for Mesur,” “The Plaie of Errors,” and “The Marchant of Venis” (two performances, the second “Againe Commanded By the Kings Maiestie”). Plays by Shakespeare but not attributed to him are "the Moor of Venis" (i.e., Othello), “the Merry wiues of Winsor,” “Loues Labours Lost,” and “Henry the fift.” “Shaxberd” may seem an odd way to spell the playwright’s name, but Honnyng practiced a distinctive orthography (or system of spelling): he wrote “Newers” for “New Years,” “Maz” for “Maze,” “Lucrc” for “Lucrece,” and “Duck” for “Duke.” Clearly, his spelling was phonetic rather than conventional. That his spelling was considered defective in his own time is revealed by Sir George Buc’s corrections in the 1611–12 Revels Book. The first two Revels Office books document the changing fortunes of plays and playwrights from 1604–5 to 1611–12. Eight of thirteen performances in 1604–5 were of plays by Shakespeare (counting both performances of Merchant of Venice), while two were of plays by Jonson. In 1611–12, two plays were by Shakespeare, none by Jonson. In the earlier season plays were selected from the whole of Shakespeare’s career (including The Comedy of Errors, from 1594 or earlier); for 1611–12, only new plays were selected. The differences correspond to the fact that in 1604–5 King James, his family, and many members of his court, were unfamiliar with London plays, and thus could be entertained with old fare; by 1611–12, however, only new plays could expect a favorable reception. Documents: https://shakespearedocumented.folger.edu/resource/playwright-actor-shareholder/shakespeares-companyReply #2336. Jul 13 21, 2:39 AM |
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Interesting clip from Judi Dench's 'Who Do You Think You Are?' that reveals her ancestral links to a maid who worked for the Queen at Elsinore in Denmark until 1592, whose son (if I've not misunderstood) was Tycho Brahe, whose ancestors included a Rosencrantz and Guildernstern, and whose motto was 'not seems but is'. which is mirrored in a line in Hamlet. Also a record of Will Kemp touring there before he joined Shakespeare in London. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzbVOc1LkfU Reply #2337. Oct 27 21, 12:19 PM |
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One of the arguments on this thread was that as Shakespeare was a shrewd businessman, he couldn't also be an inventive creative person, as if the two talents can't be found in the same person, but when I think of Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin, he was inventive and creative, but he's also a shrewd businessman. Reply #2338. May 18 22, 4:24 AM |
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I read a book called 'The Reckoning' about the conspiracies surrounding the death of Marlowe. This week-end over 3 days it was broadcast on BBC4 radio. I just found out I'd missed it, so I'll have to catch up on BBC i player. I'd try posting the link if anyone would like to listen to it though I'm not sure they'd get access without being a licence payer. Reply #2339. May 18 22, 12:59 PM |
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Upstart Crow is on again in the West end from September 22 to December 22. It's run got cut off by Covid lockdowns, but we managed to see it before that happened and it was great. We're going to see it again in November with 4 other friends. If you are in accessible distance I would recommend it. Reply #2340. May 21 22, 3:12 AM |
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