Subject: Wine, Wine, Wine
Posted by: Lochalsh
Date: Mar 09 10
Do you drink wine? What type do you like best? Is there one label you prefer above the rest? Do you drink wine by itself or with food? Do you think one country dominates over others in the quality of its wines?
I have many attachments to Spain, professional and otherwise, and I choose its red wines practically every time.
Posted by: Lochalsh
Date: Mar 09 10
Do you drink wine? What type do you like best? Is there one label you prefer above the rest? Do you drink wine by itself or with food? Do you think one country dominates over others in the quality of its wines?
I have many attachments to Spain, professional and otherwise, and I choose its red wines practically every time.
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daver852 
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One wine I would like to reommend is Guenoc Victorian Claret. It comes from vineyards planted by Lily Langtry, the infamous mistress of Edward VII. It's consistently good from vintage to vintage, and retails for about $9 where I live. Word is that the 2011 vintage in Bordeaux is pretty much a washout. Reply #81. Oct 06 11, 9:35 PM |
| daver852
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I found a very interesting website called Wines 'Til Sold Out (wtso.com). They sell only one wine at a time; when it's sold out, they put up another one. You can sign up at their site and they'll email info about their current selection. Their prices are excellent, and the best thing is that if you order four bottles or more, they offer free shipping via FedEx! You have to live in a state where it's legal to ship wine, though. I received my first order today, a petite chateau from Bordeaux called Chateau de Macard. Four bottle cost me around $43. I'll let you know if it's any good. By the way, if you receive an offer from Groupon or a similar site to buy wine, be very careful; there are a lot of complaints about companies using these offers to unwittingly sign up people for their "wine club" or some other scam. Two that I've seen lots of complaints about are Barclay's Wines and Wine Insiders. Reply #82. Oct 12 11, 8:26 AM |
| daver852
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Cracked open a bottle of my Cheateau de Macard 2009 this evening. It's pretty good. I love to look up the wines I'm drinking. This property is located in Pessac-Sur-Dordogne, so it's technically a Graves, although the wine is marketed under the appellation Bordeaux Superieur. 2009 is the third "vintage of the century" so far. Usually one would want to wait at least five years before trying a Bordeaux of a good vintage, but this wine is unusual in that it is 50% Cabernet Franc, 30% Merlot and only 20% Cabernet Sauvignon. Cabernet Franc is a grape that gives wines a dark color and a lovely nose, but doesn't have much tannic structure. This wine still needs two or three hours to breathe before it starts to show its best. It is very dark, and very fragrant, still a bit tannic, but with a lovely load of dark fruit and a clean finish. "Wine Spectator" magazine gave this wine 90 out of a possible 100 points. Finding a 90 point Bordeaux for around $10 is harder than finding a liberal with brains! I wouldn't rate it that high - my score was an 88 - but it's still a wonderful bargain. I read that it's available at Costco, so if you live near one of those stores, you may want to try a bottle. Just make sure you open it two or three hours before you drink it, or it may pucker your mouth a bit. Reply #83. Oct 12 11, 8:08 PM |
turbotude
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Daver, you'd likely enjoy a bottle of 2007 Frog's Leap Rutherford. A delightful appellation Cab that has all of my favorite elements....smooth, plummy, oaky and not too acidic. Also drinkable very shortly after uncorking. The only drawback is that this wine is a bit pricey....retails for $75 a bottle, which is above my budget. But it sure was nice to receive as a gift! YUMMMMMMM! Reply #84. Dec 05 11, 7:42 PM |
| daver852
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Oh, I've had Frog's Leap, and you're right - it's good! But $75 sounds a bit steep. Actually, there are lots of bargains around, since the world is awash in a glut of wine, and everyone's favorite community organizer has ruined the world economy. I can't afford top flight Bordeaux any longer, but the "second wines" of the Grand Crus often present good value. Today the UPS man brought me a bottle of Pagodes de Cos, the second wine of Cos d'Estournel, and three bottles of Tourelles de Pichon, the second wine of Chateau Pichon-Longueville-Baron. I plan on cracking open a couple of them at Christmas. I may have posted this before, but it's worth repeating: a couple of good online sites for grabbing bargains are "wines til sold out" and "cinderella wines." Big discounts and free shipping if you buy enough. Reply #85. Dec 05 11, 10:00 PM |
scooter1981
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I do enjoy a couple of glasses of good wine from time to time. I like fruit-flavored wines best, especially that which is produced locally here in NW Pennsylvania. I also am developing a taste for French red wines. I also have enjoyed White Zinfandel in the recent past. Reply #86. Dec 05 11, 10:27 PM |
george48
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I'm not a huge fan of white wine,in fact i've never come across any that i've liked,any suggestions for a GOOD white wine would be appreciated. Reply #87. Dec 05 11, 10:47 PM |
| turbotude
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George, white wines aren't my preference either, but sometimes they DO pair better with lighter fare. I used to like Black Tower Liebfraumilch back in the 'old days'. Another recommendation is Kendall Jackson's chardonnay; Yellow Tail pinot grigio isn't all that bad, and it's inexpensive. As long as you're paying between $10-$15 a bottle, you can afford to experiment. Sometimes it's fun to visit your local wine shop and buy a wine soley based on the price or the look of their label. Many times I've found some delightful wines this way! Have fun, and let us know if you find a white that YOU would recommend. Reply #88. Dec 06 11, 12:54 PM |
| daver852
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For a sweet (or off dry) white, an inexpensive German Reisling might be a good place to start, or a Moscato, a very popular grape variety at the moment. Or a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc; these wines aren't actually sweet, but are so fruity you might think they are. For a dry white, try a French Muscadet (not to be confused with Muscatel), or an Italian Soave or Pinot Grigio. Most wine store employees will be happy to help you find a bottle if you give them an idea of what you're looking for. Reply #89. Dec 11 11, 9:43 PM |
| daver852
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It's Christmas time, and I always get wine for Christmas from my non-wine drinking relatives. What an adventure! The worst so far has been something called The Winemakers Winners Wine 2007. This is a Grenache blend produced in association with some kind of reality show that aired on PBS. It is honest-to-goodness-God-awful. As I noted in my review on cellartracker.com, if this stuff was the winner, I count myself blessed that I didn't have to taste the losers. The best has been a Francis Ford Coppola Black Label Claret (1910 Style) 2009, which was very good indeed. Reply #90. Dec 28 11, 5:42 PM |
| turbotude
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Daver, I thought you might enjoy this critique that was shared by a fellow member of "The Wine Cellar" group..... So JLT has promised a new years resolution of beginning to post wine reviews and scores of the wine she drinks...Below is a pretty funny review on my "cloud wine database"....This will help you Jane :-)...this is a wine I have by the way...a 2002 Silver Oak Cab... Tasted by tp096255 on 9/1/2011 & rated 75 points: --- COLOR: Garnet with deep ruby rim NOTE: Yikes, this smells exactly like buttered toast with some raspberry preserves slathered on, then a sprinkling of rubbing alcohol. Or it could just be raspberry shoe polish, not sure. It only gets worse when you try to drink it. The mouth has a nice opulence, with smooth tannins, but from there to the finish I am certain someone dropped their black shoe polish bottle in the vat. It's such a strikingly angular, odd Cab that I don't know wh...at to say. It's almost like it could have been great, but someone fell asleep and left it in the barrel twice as long as it required. This almost makes me mad. The fruit is there, buried underneath the nastiness of the cedar/oak that is almost nauseating. Someone took God's gift of grapes and smothered them. Grape-a-cide. DECANT: 1-5 hours (no difference) GLASS USED: Bordeaux TASTE: 7.5 (and I'm being generous because it's barely drinkable with or without food) OTHER: COST: 60 (it was a gift, glad I didn't buy it) VALUE: 0.01 PREVIOUSLY TASTED: never TRY AGAIN: never PAIRING: the LA sewer system Inquiries can be addressed to troypeterson@usa.netSee More Reply #91. Dec 29 11, 1:18 PM |
paulmallon
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Chianti, with fava beans,especially when I'm having an old over friend for dinner Reply #92. Dec 29 11, 7:41 PM |
| turbotude
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Paul, I didn't know you were the REAL Hannibal Lecter! Reply #93. Dec 30 11, 12:02 PM |
| daver852
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Hard to believe a Silver Oak Cab could be that bad (unless it was corked). If you live in the UK and drink wine, here's an article that's a MUST read: http://blog.bauduc.com/2011/03/24/13-unpalatable-facts-about-uk-wine-duty/ Reply #94. Dec 31 11, 11:20 AM |
| turbotude
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Daver, as you well know, there could have been a number of reasons the dude hated the wine: improperly stored, so it WAS indeed bad, no time allowed to 'breathe'.....or he just happened to not hit his tastebuds the way he was expecting. Anyway, I happen to agree with you that the Silver Oak couldn't have really been that bad, but I thought his review was hilarious and couldn't resist sharing it. As for taxing the grape to death over in the UK, I'm glad to live here in the States, where I can afford my vino! Reply #95. Jan 01 12, 12:01 PM |
| daver852
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I did think it was funny! I have written some pretty scathing wine reviews in my time, too. I feel there should be no tax on wine, as it is one of the essential food groups. Reply #96. Jan 02 12, 6:26 PM |
nautilator
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I just picked up something from Chocolate Shop which is a red wine with a chocolate flavor to it. It's pretty interesting. Reply #97. Jan 06 12, 7:21 PM |
| daver852
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In my neverending search for something decent to drink at an affordable price, I stumbled onto a lovely little wine called Familia Cara Chianti Riserva 2003 at the local grog shop for $7.98. This wine got fairly poor reviews on cellartracker, but I thought it was great. Just a lovely, complex nose and juicy cherry flavors, with a nice earthy finish. I can't understand why the other dozen or so people who reviewed it didn't like it. De gustibus non est disputandum. Reply #98. Jan 07 12, 6:02 PM |
| turbotude
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I seldom drink chianti, but I like to have a bottle on hand for guests who love it. I'll try to remember this recommendation, and pick up a bottle next time I visit Total Wine. Reply #99. Jan 09 12, 9:05 PM |
| daver852
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Just had a bottle of delightful stuff called Michel Lynch Sauvignon Blanc 2009. It's from the Entre-Deux-Mers region of Bordeaux and is quite a bit dryer than a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc, but not as dry as a White Graves. Really tasty, sophisticated stuff. The best bit? It cost a whopping $4.99! Reply #100. Jan 12 12, 12:35 PM |
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