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Subject: Science Fiction Interpretations

Posted by: brm50diboll
Date: Jan 02 17

I have debated with myself starting a Virtual Blog for months. I have so little free time nowadays that I may not be able to keep it up, but I think I'll at least try. This is intended to be wide-ranging, so it wouldn't fit in the Television, Movies, or Literature boards categories and I don't want to clog up General with just my observations but here I can rant if I choose and people can choose to ignore me or engage my flawed analysis if they wish.

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I had gotten into a discussion on a Twilight Zone group on Facebook with someone who had asked how many actors in the original Twilight Zone were still alive. William Shatner was the starting point for the discussion, as he was in two TZ episodes, "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" and "Nick of Time", and is, of course, still alive. I said it wouldn't be so easy since it would depend on what one meant by "being an actor in the original Twilight Zone". Do you mean lead actors, major supporting actors, or anyone who had any lines whatsoever in an episode, because, by the last definition, a number of child actors who had brief appearances would qualify. As my example I gave Ron Howard (of The Andy Griffith Show and Happy Days and multiple directorial stints in movies fame), who appeared briefly in one scene of the first-season episode "Walking Distance" at the tender age of three (yes, *before* The Andy Griffith Show). He is even credited as Ronny Howard in the episode. He is certainly alive, but other child actors who didn't go on to be as famous as him but had brief TZ appearances are likely also alive but difficult to account for. Anyway, off the top of my head I decided to assemble at least a partial listing of such luminaries, who are still alive.

William Shatner (as mentioned)
George Takei ("The Encounter")
Earl Holliman ("Where Is Everybody?" (The *first* episode!))
Robert Redford ("Nothing In The Dark")
Carol Burnett ("Cavender is Coming")
Billy Mumy (of Lost in Space fame - "Long Distance Call", "In Praise of Pip", and "It's a Good Life")
Mary Badham ( best known as Scout Finch in To Kill a Mockingbird - "The Bewitchin' Pool" (the *last* episode!)

and, of course, Julie Newmar (age 89). Undoubtedly there are others.

Reply #461. Jun 06 23, 2:09 PM

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Brian, have you read Bill Shatner's YA SF series, "Quest for Tomorrow"?
"Delta Search"
"In Alien Hands"
"Step into Chaos"
"Beyond the Stars".

I enjoyed it.

Reply #462. Jun 09 23, 7:50 PM
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No, I'm afraid not. I was aware that Shatner was a writer among his other activities, and although I have not heard of the books you mention, I was aware of something he wrote called TekWar, though again I haven't read it. I haven't been able to free up enough time to read full books for some years now. I think the last actual book I read was Lois Lowry's The Giver maybe five years ago.

To add to my partial listing of living actors who had been in the original Twilight Zone, in addition to the previously-mentioned Ron Howard in "Walking Distance", I will also add Mariette Hartley (who also had a fine turn in the Star Trek episode "All Our Yesterdays") for her role in "The Long Morrow".

Reply #463. Jun 09 23, 8:46 PM

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So I finally managed to make it through the five new episodes of Black Mirror (Season 6), which have come to Netflix. Of the five, the one that was most thought-provoking to me was the first, "Joan is Awful", about the dangers of AI in streaming video services. I give Charlie Brooker (the creator and chief writer for Black Mirror) credit for going after the service (Netflix) which has so widely publicized his creation. In "Joan is Awful", the thinly-veiled Netflix stand-in for streaming services is called "Streamberry", and it signs actors to contracts to use digital images of themselves in perpetuity for AI-created quickly-developed (in the space of a single day, believe it or not) content which effectively ruins the reputations of the actors whose images are used. This is actually very topical right now. Both the writers union and the actors union are currently on strike in part due to concerns about abuses of AI which are very close to what "Joan is Awful" implies will happen in the near future.

In my view the dangers of AI go well beyond what it might do to the entertainment industry. So-called "deepfakes", especially when done well, can actually deceive people into believing that certain people did and said things that in fact did not really happen. This is potentially extremely dangerous. I am not opposed to the development of AI (it is going to happen regardless, I'll admit), but I am all for regulation of the process by which it happens and, truth be told, my sentiments lie entirely with the unions in the aforementioned strikes.

It especially concerns me that matters of strict fact, such as determining whether or not a given number is prime or not, questions that are not "creative" or "matters of opinion", but can be either right or wrong, seem to an area of concern for developing AI , such as ChatGPT. Of course, in my opinion, chatbots shouldn't be relied upon for the determination of facts, but ignorance is so widespread in our society that many people will believe something if it is widely spread through social media. I think it was Mark Twain who said something like a lie can go around the world before the truth can put its shoes on.

Anyway, here is one recent story illustrating my concerns:

link https://cointelegraph.com/news/chatgpt-accurate-responses-worsened-over-time-claims-study

The development of AI needs to be watched closely and regulated. Black Mirror supposed to be a warning about the potential direction technology development may take, not a guidebook for it. Go Fran Drescher! Power to your cause!

Reply #464. Jul 21 23, 7:58 PM

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Thank you for the interesting link. As you're no doubt aware, AI technology has kept improving (expanding?) since that article was written. What is of particular concern is that millions, if not billions, are being spent on finding out why this is so, without a similar amount being spent on how the technological advances in this direction might affect our human (scientists might say homo sapiens) development.

Reply #465. Nov 18 23, 10:58 AM
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This topic has been in the news. Apparently the new goal for AI developers and thus the new concern is AI becoming able to do reliable arithmetic. If it can do that, it's considerably closer to functioning analogously to a human brain, and that's when things really get scary.

Reply #466. Nov 26 23, 9:50 PM
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I have been away from this blog for way too long. Mainly because I have been busy and haven't seen much new in the science fiction front to report. I see that Netflix has renewed Black Mirror for a Season 7, but who knows when that will come out. I think Hulu is due to bring out the final season of The Handmaid's Tale sometime in 2024, but that's not anytime soon either. I have amused myself recently by doing an in-depth report of how to play Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas over in the Arts & Recreation section of the Boards, but it doesn't have anything to do with science fiction (unless you believe "The Truth" - a character voiced by the late Peter Fonda I haven't gotten to yet) so I won't elaborate on that here. I had a long-running 80's music thread over in the Discussion Forums that I closed down some time ago because I was running out of songs from that era that I liked. At the time I closed it, I said I was sure there were still a few songs from the 80s that I liked that I hadn't included, but some of them would likely come to me at random times in the unpredictably distant future. I just heard one of those songs today, so, not wanting to reopen a thread I stopped for a "straggler" or two, I 'll put it in here:

Forever Young by Alphaville from 1984

link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oNjQXmoxiQ8&pp=ygUNZm9yZXZlciB5b3VuZw%3D%3D

A nice futuristic synth-pop song I had forgotten about for some reason. But the lyrics keep asking the question "Do you really want to live forever?" My answer to that, of course, is no. I've discussed the reasons for that in this blog before. A few other reasons would be:

The Picture of Dorian Gray - novel by Oscar Wilde
Long Live Walter Jameson - original Twilight Zone episode
Queen of the Nile - original Twilight Zone episode
Requiem for Methuselah - original Star Trek episode
Gulliver's Travels (section on the Struldbruggs) - novel by Jonathan Swift
and much more I can't think of off the top of my head.

The writer's strike has finally been settled. I hope the use of AI remains under careful scrutiny - there are a lot of dangers there. I'll come back to this blog later (who knows when that may be?) when I have something new to say.

Reply #467. Dec 03 23, 9:40 PM

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I'm not a writer, but I do get ideas for stories sometimes that I write down. What I write can be described as a rough draft of a rough draft. Anyway, I got one such idea (probably from watching too many Twilight Zone episodes) and I decided to write it down here. I will admit beforehand it doesn't have literary merit, but the premise intrigues me, so I will start with the first Chapter of something I will call, for lack of creativity, "The Special Staircase".

Robert Woodson (Bob, for short) is an executive at a branch of a medium-sized company in the medium-sized town of Dillton, Texas [fictional]. He is 47 years old and divorced working in a rather unusual building in downtown. The building has only three floors, but each floor is unusually large, with two banks of elevators in the building (one about a third of the way from the front to the back of the building and one about two-thirds of the way.) Each bank has two elevators. The building also has several staircases in various places. Bob has worked here for five years, and his office is on the second floor, near the front (north face) of the building. His immediate supervisor also has an office on the second floor near the north face, but down the hall from Bob. The district manager (the senior executive at this branch) has his office on the third floor, but Bob rarely has occasion to visit there. His usual day consists of coming in in the morning, saying hello to the receptionists on the ground floor, then taking one of the forward elevators to the second floor where he spends most òf the day. He goes home using the same elevators. Sometimes there have been fire alarms set off (no actual fires though) and he has had to use the northeast stairwell rather than the elevators. He is usually in his office and in his five years hasn't exactly bothered to explore the full layout of the building.

One day Bob decided he would check out the parts of the building he hadn't bothered to visit before. He went all the way back towards the south face of the second floor and saw a security guard standing in front of a door to a stairwell he hadn't seen before. He decided to talk to the guard, since the other stairwells did not have guards posted in front of them and he was curious why this one did, especially since his supervisor had never mentioned such a stairwell before and he had never before had the occasion to stroll down the hallway in front of this stairwell. He asked the guard why he was there and the guard replied that unlike all the other stairwells in the building, this one had restricted access. Only personnel who had passes approved by the district manager himself could use this particular stairwell. Bob was curious about this, so he took an elevator to the third floor and went to the same south face and saw a different guard posted in front of the stairwell there. It was not close to the district manager's office, and the third floor hallway leading to it had mostly empty unremarkable offices. Bob saw the same thing on the ground floor. He went to his supervisor and asked him about this guarded stairwell, and his supervisor told him he didn't know much about it, he always thought it was superfluous. But he'd have to ask the district manager if he wanted to know any more about it. One day he did ask the district manager, and he replied he wasn't at liberty to talk about the details under corporate policy, but that he could grant an access pass to that stairwell for a one-time fee of $50, or a daily fee of $100 a day to any employee who worked in that building who asked for it. Bob thought that was a steep price, so he dropped the matter. But his curiosity kept getting the better of him. A few months later he asked the district manager for a one-time access pass and paid his $50. The manager told him that first-time activation of the pass card (in this case, the *only* time activation of the card, could *only* be processed by the guard stationed on the floor the employee was assigned to, not the other guards. So since Bob was on the second floor, he had to take an elevator or one of the other stairwells to his second floor, then report to the guard there. Bob thought that was peculiar, but left the district manager's office on the third floor with the newly-issued but inactive pass, took the elevator to the second floor, and went to the second floor guard to activate the pass. The guard there looked at Bob's company ID, took the pass and swiped it on a reader, and Bob heard a click at the door as it unlocked and a light on the door changed color from red to green. The guard told him he could exit the stairwell on any floor without any further charge, and further, that if he chose to reenter a door on any floor, he could do so exactly *one* more time without any further charge, but if he chose to reenter the second floor stairwell access, he would get his $50 refunded to him if he asked no further questions. Bob thought that was very strange, but he entered the door with the pass card the guard handed him back and went into the stairwell.

After Bob entered the stairwell, he observed that it looked exactly like the other stairwells in the building. He ran up to the third floor, then down to the ground floor, and saw nothing special. He exited the ground floor stairwell door, and looked at the guard stationed there with a nod, then walked up and down the back hallway on the ground floor and saw nothing unusual. Everything looked just as it had the other times he had visited that first floor hallway. He thought this must be a prank or a con to get $50 from him, so he decided he would just use the refund option. He used his one extra free entry to reenter the access door on the first floor (without asking the guard any questions, of course), then walked up the stairwell to the second floor, and came through the door there and presented the guard there (again with no questions) his now-used passcard and told him he wanted his $50 back. The guard punched some buttons, printed out a ticket, and told him to go to the district manager's receptionist for his refund. Bob did so, and got his $50 back. How bizarre, he thought! What was the point of all that? He was still curious, but didn't want any more runaround, so he suppressed his curiosity and returned to his usual routine thereafter.

Some weeks later, it was a Wednesday, May 14th, Bob went to work his usual way. But the curiosity was just eating him alive. He went back to. The second floor back hallway and just stood there looking at the security guard for about 10 minutes. There was no traffic in that hallway at all. Suddenly the fire alarm went off. Every one must exit the building immediately, the guard said. The elevators shut down in the alarms, but the guard said in an emergency they could use the back stairwell if they wanted to without any fees or passcards, and he punched some numbers in and the door opened. Bob entered the stairwell and walked down to the ground floor along with the guard, who reminded him he needed to exit the building. The guard joined up with the other two stairwell guards and talked awhile, but Bob left them to go to the front lobby, where everyone was leaving the building. Bob exited the front door of the ground floor and hung around outside for a few minutes with other employees, then the all clear was given and everyone was told there was no fire, the alarm had been triggered accidentally and there was an ongoing investigation as to what exactly caused the issue. By that time, it was past 5 pm, so Bob just decided to go home for the day.

Bob settled in and decided to watch TV that evening. He turned the TV on and began watching the program, which seemed familiar. It was familiar. It was exactly the same program he had watched a day earlier, not the program he expected to be on. He went to his home computer and looked at the date on the screen.

It was Tuesday, May 13th.

Reply #468. Mar 08 24, 1:32 PM

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Chapter 2

Bob, being a cautious analytical sort, did not want to jump to conclusions. Maybe the clock was wrong on the computer. Maybe he did go back a day in time, but it was a fluke unrelated to the stairwell. Or maybe it was a trap. Better to go slowly and check things out. He needed another confirmation of the date. He reached for his cellphone and remembered he had left it on his office desk before the fire alarm. But wait! Where did he have his phone the previous evening? On the bedroom dresser. He went to the bedroom dresser and there it was. But if things in his house were as they were before, why did he not run into his previous self? He had his wallet in his pants pocket. The pants he was wearing were the same pants that walked down the stairwell, and when he checked his wallet, it had exactly in it what he remembered. There was also a loose quarter in his pocket that had been in his pocket when he went down the stairs. He looked at his cellphone. The date there also read Tuesday, May 13th. He got in his car and drove to where he saw a time and temperature sign that confirmed the date again.

Bob decided not to do anything at work the next day that had anything to do with the stairwell. He would just go through the day as usual and look for any anomalies. When he came to work at his usual time on Wednesday, May 14th, he realized that there was a newspaper stand in front of a convenience store down the road from his office. The date on the paper there was Wednesday, May 14th. Was there a way to check the date independently *inside* his office? Yes, the receptionist desk in the lobby of the ground floor had a digital calendar which again confirmed the date. He decided he would not go to the back hallway today but stay in his office. Late in the afternoon, the fire alarm went off at the same time it had the previous day. This time, he brought his cellphone with him as he left during the alarm. He went down the East staircase, out the building, and out the front door, noticing the digital calendar at the receptionist desk still read Wednesday May 14 as he was exiting. He headed home, and checked his computer which gave the same date. Then he watched TV that night and saw the Wednesday lineup of programs, not the Tuesday one. Maybe it was all a fluke or a hallucination. But tomorrow he would test what was going on.

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