Subject: Females a Distraction in School?
Posted by: 13LuckyLady
Date: Oct 02 15
There is an on-going issue within schools. Female students are being declared a distraction and their attire is a subject of criticism.
Based upon what is available in stores for teens, unless you opt for making your own clothes, options are few.
Shorts and spaghetti straps...since when did school become about attire and not learning? Too many excuses already exist. What about droopy drawers?
Should we have to cover from head to toe in our own home countries? I won't do it (spontaneous human combustion) as I am a free person.
What is a girl to do?
(people, your opinions are important...please help make the thread a productive one rather than a destructive one)
Posted by: 13LuckyLady
Date: Oct 02 15
There is an on-going issue within schools. Female students are being declared a distraction and their attire is a subject of criticism.
Based upon what is available in stores for teens, unless you opt for making your own clothes, options are few.
Shorts and spaghetti straps...since when did school become about attire and not learning? Too many excuses already exist. What about droopy drawers?
Should we have to cover from head to toe in our own home countries? I won't do it (spontaneous human combustion) as I am a free person.
What is a girl to do?
(people, your opinions are important...please help make the thread a productive one rather than a destructive one)
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mpkitty 
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Maybe I live (or should) on a different planet, but in at least 50 years of being in school, I have never had difficulties such are spoken of here. Mountains out of molehills, perhaps? Reply #41. Jun 20 16, 1:35 PM |
lesley153
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Things change. Molehills can grow at an alarming rate. Reply #42. Jun 20 16, 6:42 PM |
Creedy
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I like school uniforms. Apart from anything else, I think they help create a positive school spirit, pride and belonging. I can't think how wearing one would have a detrimental effect on the development of a child's personality. There's a million other ways this is developed over time, and the basic one is usually formed long before school actually begins. I wore a school uniform both in primary and secondary school. Sure as heck saved agonising what to wear otherwise, but I actually liked wearing them anyhow. I could have done without the black stockings perhaps. The boys called us Liquorice Legs :) A lack of a school uniform is probably more detrimental for many students than otherwise. Particularly for poorer students who cannot afford dazzling outfits and the latest fashions. That could have a negative effect on self-image. Trying to keep up etc. Sports teams have uniforms, as do professionals such as nurses etc. And soldiers as well of course. I think they really do create a sense of pride and solidarity. Each to their own of course. Reply #43. Jun 20 16, 9:14 PM |
nasty_liar
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Re: mountains out of molehills That's the point, teenagers exagerate things that we would consider trivial later in life. With regards to this I can only speak from my own experience. That experience was humiliation and mocking when we had what was called 'non-uniform day' at my high school usually once a year for charity. As Jabb5076 describes it was like a contest that made me glad we had uniforms. After the first one I would fake illness so I didn't have to go on the subsequent years. Strangely enough, as an adult I always face up to problems in my life and don't hide from them so I didn't continue that trend. I guess when you're picked on constantly you can decide that inviting more ridicule is not a good idea. I know I am probably the minority but uniform made me feel equal to everyone else. Even if there are only a few like me it is worth it, I can't be the only one that ever experienced this. I hated school enough without an extra reason to do so! Reply #44. Jun 20 16, 11:14 PM |
C30
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Personally never had a problem with uniforms........we didn't have them at Primary School, but did at Secondary School. None of us, to my knowledge, thought anything of it. I suppose it helps to "keep up with peers" as being accepted by same is important to a child/teenager. So, from age of 11 to 65 I wore a uniform of one kind or another and only after retirement did I not do so. Frankly anyone who doesn't like how I dress........tough! Reply #45. Jun 21 16, 1:52 AM |
| C30
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Further to above..............reference girls being a distraction.........I think to a teenage lad, they would be thus no matter HOW they dressed! Come to that, I have always found the opposite sex a PLEASANT "distraction" all my life. :) At school though, whilst sharing same building - it was two halves, girls one side, boys the other. The playground was likewise segregated, with a painted line akin to "Berlin Wall" that crossing was strictly taboo and any male/female integration frowned upon. One of the "perks" of being a prefect, was patrolling "the line" to ensure no such heinous crime was committed......and if the object of ones affections was patrolling their side of the line....!!!!! Reply #46. Jun 21 16, 2:00 AM |
| Creedy
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I actually read a report a couple of years ago (I think it was when I was studying psychology) that boys perform better at co-ed schools than in single sex ones. The results of girls were (I think) better in single sex schools. I never got round to following it through to see what variables were included blah blah, but it surprised me a little. Surely achievement at school is an individual thing. Reply #47. Jun 21 16, 5:19 AM |
13LuckyLady
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"That's the point, teenagers exagerate things that we would consider trivial later in life." Expressing oneself is not an exaggeration nor is standing up for what one believes is right. Adults diminish what they consider to be insignificant. I went through the entire process of applying for, and being offered, an excellent position with a company. Right before the contract was signed, I was advised my attire had to be dresses, nylons, heels and with hair and make up done. Almost a month with these people and not one noticed I did not wear dresses or makeup and my hair was short and did not flow. I didn't even own a dress much less makeup. It seems to me I was being hired to be either a distraction or eye candy. I do not do either and refused the position. Exaggerate? I do not believe that is the case. I believe the issue is the blame game. Not my fault, never my fault, always someone else.... In my day, the saying was "the devil made me do it". Females and males both distract. Wasn't that the idea in the first place in order to urge us to make other humans? Reply #48. Jun 21 16, 6:03 AM |
| 13LuckyLady
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Girls are less likely to speak up or answer questions in a school where males attend. Reply #49. Jun 21 16, 6:05 AM |
| 13LuckyLady
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It continues... http://hellogiggles.com/utah-cheerleaders-uniforms/ Reply #50. Sep 19 16, 11:17 AM |
Mixamatosis
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During the teenage period with hormones raging through their systems both boys and girls will be thinking about things other than school, and will be easily distracted by anything unless they understand the importance of education but even then some level of distraction is normal. Reply #51. Sep 23 16, 2:42 AM |
ElusiveDream
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I've heard that a school in Western Australia has come under fire for selecting two male students to be 2017 prefects because no female students were considered to be up to the job. How unfair is that?! Reply #52. Mar 09 17, 12:24 AM |
| C30
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Elusive..............sounds fair enough. In these days of pressurised "sexual equality", the best people for the job should be selected, irrespective of their gender. COMPLAINING about the decision is "sexist", inasmuch as paramount to saying that the job should be given to female(s), simply because they ARE female, with no thought as to suitability of applicants - if the the two people deemed best for the job happen to be male - they get the job. Reply #53. Mar 09 17, 1:23 AM |
MiraJane
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"... for selecting two male students to be 2017 prefects because no female students were considered to be up to the job. " I know of a prefect being some sort of police officer from watching "Casablanca". Why would a school in Western Australia need two prefects? What are student prefects in schools in Australia? Reply #54. Mar 09 17, 2:13 AM |
Mommakat
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As a West Australian, I hadn't even heard about it, but then I suppose that is because it is hardly a national incident. Frankly I am in favour of the decision if it was made (and not just media hype) because females do tend to be Bitchy at times. Reply #55. Mar 09 17, 2:14 AM |
| Mommakat
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Had written my reply possibly while you were posting yours MJ....Prefects in schools has always been the norm here and are elected to keep an eye on things when teachers are not present. They are usually the students who are in the top echelon of achievement with their studies. Reply #56. Mar 09 17, 2:18 AM |
| MiraJane
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Thanks, Meg. I've heard them called school monitors here. If its just for a classroom, the teacher either appoints one for a set time period or as they are walking out the door, says "You, you are in charge." If it is something being a hall monitor, telling other students to move along, or asking them why they are in the halls during class time .... I don't remember that ever happening. Is it considered an honor of some kind to be a prefect in Australian schools? And yes, if two males were the best ones for the jobs and no females were, than no sexism was involved. However, if the males were chosen because it was felt the girls wouldn't be taken seriously, than that is a fault of attitudes of school and lack of respect shown toward the girls in general. Reply #57. Mar 09 17, 4:23 AM |
| ElusiveDream
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When I was at Secondary school, we had the S.R.C (Student Representative Council). Every year, two students from each class were selected and it was always one boy and one girl. Reply #58. Mar 09 17, 5:30 AM |
| Mommakat
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It was an honour to be chosen in my day, but I can't comment on today's students. I assume it is as it always was and that is the chosen were the top students. It was the teaching staff that did the choosing back then. Reply #59. Mar 09 17, 5:48 AM |
| 13LuckyLady
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"because females do tend to be Bitchy at times" That's like saying all women are vain and flighty and gold diggers. I find men complain (bitch) far more often than females..often endlessly over nada. A book recently came out regarding prom. Twelve pages of telling the girls what they can and cannot wear as they are not to "distract or upset the boys". One page of how to dress for the boys. The problem is too many excuses for their behavior and often their behavior is blamed on females. It is time to stop shaming and blaming.... Reply #60. Mar 09 17, 9:27 AM |
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