Subject: Children in pubs and resturants ?
Posted by: s-m-w
Date: May 05 10
Just arrived back from town after a day’s shopping; nothing unusual about that or that we had a late breakfast in the Copa in Cheltenham (which I can strongly recommend).
OK, long story short...
Was just about to tuck into a wonderful “Full English” (11.30) when in walked mother, daughter with one 4 year old girl and a baby boy approx 10 months into the selfsame pub/restaurant my initial thoughts were “please sit anywhere but not close to us” and looking around many of the other patrons felt the same. But, no such luck! The noise of screaming and throwing of anything within grasp of the brats then ensued. Many of the people sitting around either just left the establishment or took their food /drink to other tables hoping to continue in peace.
Question, am I and others who would like to enjoy their food/drink in such places being unreasonable, or is it time that people with unruly peace disrupting kids were asked to either stay at home or control their kids?
It was a dark day in my opinion when the licence laws changed in U.K to allow children onto licensed premises.
Rant over.
Posted by: s-m-w
Date: May 05 10
Just arrived back from town after a day’s shopping; nothing unusual about that or that we had a late breakfast in the Copa in Cheltenham (which I can strongly recommend).
OK, long story short...
Was just about to tuck into a wonderful “Full English” (11.30) when in walked mother, daughter with one 4 year old girl and a baby boy approx 10 months into the selfsame pub/restaurant my initial thoughts were “please sit anywhere but not close to us” and looking around many of the other patrons felt the same. But, no such luck! The noise of screaming and throwing of anything within grasp of the brats then ensued. Many of the people sitting around either just left the establishment or took their food /drink to other tables hoping to continue in peace.
Question, am I and others who would like to enjoy their food/drink in such places being unreasonable, or is it time that people with unruly peace disrupting kids were asked to either stay at home or control their kids?
It was a dark day in my opinion when the licence laws changed in U.K to allow children onto licensed premises.
Rant over.
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daver852 
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I don't think it was a majority who agreed with the ban on smoking in restaurants. I think it was a small, but very vocal, minority. Most people don't care one way or the other. Reply #101. Mar 14 17, 7:00 PM |
jolana
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We live in very different countries, Daver. We are probably, as the press claims, the last country in the EU to ban smoking on the cafes, pubs and restaurants. The majority agreed. I don´t understand why. I live near the square where there are about 7 venues, 3 non-smoking, 3 smoking and 1 half and half. A perfect constellation. We might have been an example of democracy. But the Parliament decided in a different way. Oh,well. I, as a passionate smoker, will never go a restaurant, cafe or a bar. Why? Drinking the black slurry without a cigarette just to be annoyed by the kids who found a new area? No, my life has changed again. Reply #102. Mar 14 17, 7:15 PM |
ElusiveDream
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MJ, imagine you and your family are dining in a fancy restaurant. Would you not be disgusted by something like a mother letting her child use the potty next to their table? This is not how you teach a child to use the toilet. Reply #103. Mar 15 17, 1:13 AM |
supersal1
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The recent 'potty' incident happened at a 'nice pub' in England. Judging by comments on the story, it's not something that's considered acceptable, and rightly so. That aside, I wonder how children are going to know how to behave in restaurants if they're banned from them. Reply #104. Mar 15 17, 2:46 AM |
| supersal1
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Since this thread started restaurants in the UK have changed a bit. The fashion is for no soft furnishings anywhere. I can understand this for a maintenance point of view but it plays hell with the acoustics. I'm finding it more and more difficult to find a restaurant where I can chat to my companions. Went out for lunch with my Mum last week, definitely a 'nice' restaurant and not a child in sight, but conversation with Mum was difficult, the background noise was horrendous. Even if there had been half a dozen little ones running riot, it wouldn't have made much difference to the noise levels. Reply #105. Mar 15 17, 2:56 AM |
MiraJane
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Elusive, go back and read what I wrote. My comment was not about the post you before mine. It was about the stories you choose to focus on. Reply #106. Mar 15 17, 4:58 AM |
| ElusiveDream
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I'm not saying ban children from every restaurant in the world, but if you're running a restaurant that allows children, you should make it clear to customers that THEY are responsible for controlling their children for the duration of their visit. If they can't control their children, they'll have to leave. Staff should also be encouraged to report to the manager any issues they might have with visiting children. I've been to many restaurants over the years and it bothers me when I see kids treating the place like a playground. There are people coming in and out of the kitchen with hot, fresh-cooked food, and you've got little kids getting in the way and coming close to causing accidents. If you're going to take your children to a restaurant, you need to teach them what's acceptable public behaviour and what's not. Reply #107. Mar 15 17, 5:26 AM |
13LuckyLady
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ED, many adults cannot, or will not, control themselves. Expecting them to control their children...not likely. Are the children out of control or it the problem adults who don't have a clue how to parent? If we misbehaved in public, we got to stay home the next time...parent or child... Reply #108. Mar 15 17, 6:52 AM |
| ElusiveDream
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As some people have noticed, there are certain topics on which I like to voice my opinion. I'm sure I'm not the only person who would find it disgusting if a mother pulled out a plastic potty for her child to poop in when they're in the middle of a restaurant's dining room where other people are eating. I wouldn't want to see someone else's kid on the toilet while I'm having my dinner and if I did, I'd be complaining to the manager. Reply #109. Mar 15 17, 4:38 PM |
jabb5076
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I wouldn't want to see my own kid pooping onthe potty during dinner, much less someone else's! Reply #110. Mar 15 17, 4:50 PM |
| MiraJane
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Elusive, you are still missing the point of my post to you. I haven't offered an opinion on the potty training or the main topic of this thread at all. I never said you shouldn't offer your opinion. Please go back and read what I wrote and think about what the words say. Reply #111. Mar 15 17, 5:32 PM |
| ElusiveDream
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Yes, I have read your post, MJ, and like I said, there are certain topics that I like to voice my opinion on. I post threads about those topics on these boards because it starts a conversation and I'm interested to see what opinions other people have. Reply #112. Mar 15 17, 9:42 PM |
| MiraJane
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Since you show no signs of understanding, I doubt you ever will. Reply #113. Mar 16 17, 4:37 PM |
| ElusiveDream
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MJ, please keep in mind that you don't actually know me. Sorry to say this, but your posts are starting to sound a little mean. Reply #114. Mar 16 17, 6:41 PM |
| MiraJane
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This was my original post: Elusive, do you ever find news items about people that don't outrage, disgust, or anger you somehow? The majority of your posts tend towards the doom and gloom side. Every response you have made has been to repeat the story of the potty in restaurant. If that is the only thing you can think of to write in reply or of you think that one incident is the only thing my post is referring to, than you do not understand my original post. You do not understand the meaning of my words. Reply #115. Mar 20 17, 8:20 AM |
| 13LuckyLady
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I'd miss coloring with the children if they were banned at the few restaurants at which I eat. I can't remember being in a pub that allowed children (due to the nature of the establishment). Reply #116. Mar 20 17, 8:55 AM |
| supersal1
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Pubs in the UK used to be a strictly adults only affair. Children were only allowed in the garden area. They've had to adapt to survive though, and some are more of he bar/restaurant variety where children are allowed, although not usually at the bar. Reply #117. Mar 20 17, 10:47 AM |
| ElusiveDream
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This story may be of interest: http://tinyurl.com/lvtpsy8 Reply #118. Apr 05 17, 5:47 PM |
| MiraJane
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What a waste of the label of "news" for a story. That incident has received too much coverage. Yes, writing that message on a napkin and holding to a window is a cowardly action. Yes, expecting babies not to cry is unreasonable. What is the purpose of reporting this? We get read about two groups of people that feel entitled. The people that wrote the note feel they are entitled to be rude. The mothers feel they are entitled to whine about unfair the world judges their little darlings. Reply #119. Apr 05 17, 7:42 PM |
Shiningstar7
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Here in the states, an Italian restaurant made headlines last week for banning children under the age of five. The owner said that Caruso's is a fine dining establishment and they want to ensure that their patrons are not disrupted by loud or unruly children. The owner also added that business has significantly improved since the change. Reply #120. Apr 06 17, 1:30 AM |
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