Subject: Grammar, Grammar, Grammar!
Posted by: Lochalsh
Date: Sep 07 10
What error in grammar disturbs you most, gives you a fingernail-across-chalkboard sensation? For me, it's "for you and I." Would a person ever say "Oh, is it for I?" No? Then why would that same individual say "for you and I"?
Stop me before I start in on the nominative vs. accusative stuff! :)
Posted by: Lochalsh
Date: Sep 07 10
What error in grammar disturbs you most, gives you a fingernail-across-chalkboard sensation? For me, it's "for you and I." Would a person ever say "Oh, is it for I?" No? Then why would that same individual say "for you and I"?
Stop me before I start in on the nominative vs. accusative stuff! :)
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REDVIKING57
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EeeK! I give up! Want some Wensleydale? Reply #81. Sep 25 10, 12:03 PM |
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EeeK! I give up! Want some Wensleydale? :)) Reply #82. Sep 25 10, 12:06 PM |
s-m-w
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Lochalsh, your childish outburst should be answered by reading this... http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule1.html I had no intention of any such thing: but, hey ho, you seem to have made yourself judge, juror and executioner for the site... nice, thank you; seems we don’t need moderators any longer. My thanks to Lesley for the link. Please remember, that people in glasshouses should check themselves and not others! Reply #83. Sep 25 10, 12:12 PM |
trojan11 
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Might sound crackers, RV, but my will power has crumbled. If it's with pickles.......yes please! Reply #84. Sep 25 10, 12:30 PM |
Verbonica
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Lochalsh, I know that your heart is in the right place -- trying to pass along some knowledge -- but, having been told to 'mind your own business', I have pretty much given up on that endeavor. I no longer send correction notices on quizzes either. Reply #85. Sep 25 10, 12:55 PM |
| Lochalsh
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Verbonica, thank you. Truth is, I'm not here to pass along knowledge. I've simply presented a topic that has interested me my whole life, and I've tried to sit back and just enjoy the comments, as I have in great part. Reply #86. Sep 25 10, 1:22 PM |
| Lochalsh
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trojan, by 'all-encompassing,' I was talking about a blow that's more than glancing: it covers the whole head from chin to top of noggin. I'm not a pugilist, not violent, and I didn't know how else to describe it. (Somehow, I'm envisioning Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd sparring, stars above the head and all.) And that leads me to ask you all about split infinitives, and about sentences starting with 'and' or 'but." :) Reply #87. Sep 25 10, 1:29 PM |
| trojan11
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Split infinitives, Lockalsh, there's no way to avoid them. In English, unlike many other languages (Spanish for instance), the infinitive can be split because because it is made up of two words rather than one. Language is a living thing, and therefore subject to change. My personal view is, if splitting an infinitive helps convey a meaning or point of view clearly and in an idiomatic fashion - then split it. Beginning a sentence with 'and' or 'but'...........these are crimes for which no punishment can be harsh enough. But having said that, perhaps I'm being a tad too zealous . And, of course, each to their own. Reply #88. Sep 25 10, 2:37 PM |
| trojan11
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Sorry, bad spelling. Lochalsh, not Lockalsh. Reply #89. Sep 25 10, 2:40 PM |
lesley153
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Children, children, I leave you alone for a couple of hours, and all hell breaks loose! SMW, you are most welcome to the link. The other nine are interesting reading as well. I posted it because it seemed to me to be a reasonable, gentle reminder not to look down your nose at the way other people communicate. The fact that you haven't heard the phrase in question doesn't give you the right to ridicule the person who wrote it. Nothing to do with conveying information, and everything to do with simple good manners. Reply #90. Sep 25 10, 3:24 PM |
| lesley153
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And beginning a sentence with a preposition doesn't make for the best communication. But sometimes it's unavoidable. Reply #91. Sep 25 10, 3:26 PM |
| s-m-w
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Thank you Lesley, but no need, what made me laugh was a memory from the past... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlMIzAl_nDo&feature=fvst not any grammar rules ! Reply #92. Sep 25 10, 4:15 PM |
| Lochalsh
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trojan: Lochalsh, not Lockalsh _____ Just remember the lake (though not the monster!. :0) Reply #93. Sep 25 10, 4:44 PM |
| lesley153
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SMW, I have listened to the link. I hadn't heard of the song or the group, but I have now, unfortunately. My ears are bleeding and I will never get those minutes back again. Where on earth did you find it? It's such a shame that you didn't explain, when you first ROFLd at Upside, what you were ROFLing about - the memory of arguably one of the worst songs I have ever heard, and not one of the posters. Reply #94. Sep 25 10, 4:49 PM |
| Lochalsh
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Lesley, remind me, is there a song called "Smoke and Mirrors"? ;) Reply #95. Sep 25 10, 5:29 PM |
| Lochalsh
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Truly, could we get back to grammar, please? Reply #96. Sep 25 10, 5:30 PM |
| lesley153
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There are a few songs called "Smoke and Mirrors" but I don't think we're supposed to mention them here. Good idea. I too would like to boldly go back to the topic, and to try to not use prepositions to end sentences with. Shall we? Reply #97. Sep 25 10, 5:35 PM |
| Lochalsh
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And away we go...on (not to coin a Celine Dionian phrase)! Reply #98. Sep 25 10, 5:37 PM |
| Lochalsh
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Grammar: I see a tide turning toward "have went," and it turns my tummy! Reply #99. Sep 25 10, 5:41 PM |
| lesley153
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That's an accepted construction in Ireland. I first came across it when I worked with an Irish girl who used to say things like: "If I'd known, I would have went..." and I'm sure I've heard it on Father Ted! Reply #100. Sep 25 10, 6:01 PM |
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