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Subject: Clan Of The Cave Bear Series

Posted by: sasha67
Date: Aug 30 10

Does anyone else read this series. I really enjoy them even though its YEARS between books.

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H0lyAerith
I believe that Wymez and Ranec's mother traveled from Africa via eastern Europe (Turkey). The point about Durc is good. I have wondered if Auel is going to bring him back as a plot point at all. It is hard to see how, though. Durc is a year's travel back to the east.

I imagine that there will be a lot more "psychic" visions and the like because of Ayla's Zelandoni training. We also might see some of the beginnings of the attempts to trade with the Clan.

Reply #21. Sep 08 10, 9:09 PM
Hineboxing
Ya, I had hoped to see Ayla somehow reunited with her son at some point, but I guess that isn't very likely.

Reply #22. Sep 09 10, 12:47 PM
sasha67
If Im not mistaken Ayla brought the root that she found when they stayed with the Sharamundoi(sp). Same root that Iza taught her to use for the Clan ceremony. So her and Z9 will probably be "tripping" sooner or later. I read somewhere that she might touch on Durc in book 6 but I dont think she will bring him back as a character. Though Auel said this will be HER last book she should bring someone in to write other books with those characters we met in TMH and POP. I would like to find out what happens with the Mamutoi and the Losaduni even with Durc and the Clan. She is really going to close the series with some many unanswered questions. I just hope that Ayla isnt as "perfect" in the next book it can get irritating sometimes.

Reply #23. Sep 09 10, 2:38 PM
H0lyAerith
Ah yes, the mysterious hallucinogenic root! I imagine that Zelandoni would want to try it out if/when she found out about it. I am wondering what cave is being referred to in the title (as she already discovered what will be Lascaux in the last book). I would say Altamira but that is in Spain. Maybe your idea about them journeying to find the "dark-skinned people" will pan out.

Reply #24. Sep 09 10, 7:33 PM
sasha67
For those of you that are interested there is an interview with Jean Auel transcripted(kind of) on www.ecfans.com Juct click on forums and scroll down amd one of the topics is the interview.

Reply #25. Sep 10 10, 4:54 PM
H0lyAerith
Very interesting. I just wish that we didn't have to wait until next year to read the new book.

Reply #26. Sep 11 10, 9:00 AM
sasha67
I know what you mean, I have been reading them now for 22 yrs. And there are only 5 books! Ive tried to read similar books like People of the Wolf, but I have to say Auel spoiled me. I really dont like many other authors or that genre. I do read other historicla fiction like Wilber Smith, Michelle Moran, and Marion Zimmer Bradley.

Reply #27. Sep 12 10, 8:09 PM
great2beme
Never even heard of it.

Reply #28. Sep 12 10, 9:01 PM
H0lyAerith
You're right, sasha. I have tried other books/series in the same genre and they just don't have the authenticity of Auel's work. The amount of research and effort that she puts into the series is phenomenal. She knows exactly how people used the animals and plants and the techniques that were used for everything.

Reply #29. Sep 14 10, 9:18 PM
sasha67
Thats probably why the books take so darn long, is all the research she does. I just really want to get the new book in March 2011 to see how it all ends. I went and reread the SOS recently and Ayla didnt seem the same as she did in other books. To me she seemed flat a little two dimentional. I hope Auel brings a little of her "spark" back. But H0ly if you want a pretty good read try "The Heretic Queen" by Michelle Moran. Its about Nefertari and her early marriage between her and Rammesses The Great. Probably not really historically accurate but a fun book none the less.

Reply #30. Sep 15 10, 3:28 PM
H0lyAerith
I do like Ancient Egypt. Nefertari was a popular queen as well. I'll take a gander in my library for it.

I wonder if Ayla'll tame a mammoth next?

Reply #31. Sep 16 10, 8:07 AM
sasha67
I think that taming a mammoth was brought up when she and Jon stopped by Dalanar's cave on the way to his home. Jerika'a father was telling the story of a man riding on the back of a four-toed mammoth. Jeez the stuff I remember! She has already invented the sewing needle and the bra!

Reply #32. Sep 16 10, 4:26 PM
H0lyAerith
She's a prehistoric Thomas Edison. The needle and the bra (as sasha said) plus the travois, spear-thrower (with Jondalar), horse tack, flint fire-starting, and domestication (of horses, a wolf, and a kitty).

I do like how there are other people who have invented other major things. The Losadunai use coal for fire and Bodoa fires ceramics from clay (plus she invented the first kiln).

Reply #33. Sep 17 10, 10:06 AM
lesley153
I remember her excitement at being presented with soap. She didn't invent that either.

And I think Auel drew the line at crediting her with inventing the wheel.

Reply #34. Sep 17 10, 1:10 PM
H0lyAerith
I had forgotten the lye soap. Just wait, next book Ayla will have her horses drawing a wagon.

Reply #35. Sep 19 10, 7:28 PM
sasha67
So true! She has invented a lot of things including her birth control drink. I wouldnt be surprised if she hooked Wolf up to a sled and invented the Iditirod.

Reply #36. Sep 19 10, 10:14 PM
H0lyAerith
The birth control drink. I know Auel says what's in it but I think that if it were that simple to prevent pregnancy then we wouldn't have to keep inventing newer forms of birth control pills.

Reply #37. Sep 20 10, 8:42 AM
sasha67
Its interesting that there may be plants out there that can do what a synthesized hormone does and maybe it should be looked into a little more because some people are very sensitive to some prescription drugs. She also talks abour foxglove for hearts and mullien for coughs. I hope that the people that read these books and find herbal meds interesting do A LOT of research on them before trying it themselves.

Reply #38. Sep 21 10, 1:03 PM
H0lyAerith
I never thought of a "Do not try this at home" warning label needing to be attached to the books. Maybe that's why Auel has never actually said what that hallucinatory plant is.

Reply #39. Sep 21 10, 4:34 PM
sasha67
I mean I take a few herbals like Qua Dong for migraine prevention and Valerian for insomnia. But I did TONS of research on them. But I do think she made up the part of the psychedelic root for the Clan ceremony. I know she mentions golden thread and antalope sage for her birth control drink and also some kind of yam. Yams are very high in estrogen so she may have something there. When I was studying herbals it was pretty interesting what herbs can do! I was on Esgic for yrs for migraines and now I take Qua Dong and Feverfew for preventitive purposes. Its doesnt always work and I do get hormonal migraines, but they are a lot less severe and dont last as long and sometimes it does prevent them. But the way Auel writes Ayla she is the world first pharmacist and that is something I like about her. Like I said before I thought Ayla was a little 2 dimentional in SOS and sometimes came off as a "know-it-all". Im just hoping we can get a little of the old Ayla back in the next book.

Reply #40. Sep 24 10, 7:43 AM


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