Subject: Organic food
Posted by: romeomikegolf
Date: Oct 28 10
Do you think so called organic food is better for you or do you believe it's just a fancy way for producers and vendors to get more money out of us? Any thing that is carbon based is organic any way and that includes almost every thing we eat.
Posted by: romeomikegolf
Date: Oct 28 10
Do you think so called organic food is better for you or do you believe it's just a fancy way for producers and vendors to get more money out of us? Any thing that is carbon based is organic any way and that includes almost every thing we eat.
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lesley153
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I don't think it's extortion, because "organic" farming is labour-intensive. I do think it's better to eat produce the way it used to be grown, and not pumped full of antibiotics (chickens), and insecticides (plant life). Given the choice, I will buy organic unless I'm really skint. Reply #1. Oct 28 10, 5:50 AM |
mjws1968 
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You're paying for better quality produce. Take chicken fillets for example, the organic non-battery ones may be more expensive, but they are not from birds grown faster and stuffed with high levels of chemicals and hormones and the meat post-mortem pumped full of water like regular chicken fillets. The organic meat actually tastes of something and the fillets don't halve in size in the pan when all the forced water leaves. Same with vegetables, the organic veg is more tasty due to slower more natural growth. No chemicals too, so better for you in the long run. It is worth paying a bit more for better quality better tasting food. Reply #2. Oct 28 10, 1:55 PM |
rayven80
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There are a lot of people who swear by organic foods, but with all the other chemicals and preservatives roaming around the environment, I don't think it's worth it. I've seen people buying organic plants and organic soil at gardening stores, then adding to the cart a large box of Miracle gro. Reply #3. Oct 30 10, 7:26 AM |
| lesley153
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Ooh yes, I've seen that being done. The meat is put into a big spinning machine, with chemicals that will make it absorb water, and it has to be judged for optimum absorption, so that it can be taken out before it explodes. And the consumer says how tender it is; not waterlogged. Yum. "...adding to the cart a large box of Miracle gro." Sad, a lot to learn. That's like new vegetarians who think all they have to do is carry on eating their old diet minus the meat. Reply #4. Oct 30 10, 7:57 AM |
beachbumb101
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I think it's a way for producers to make money out of us. I do think weat is better than white; it's more healthier. Reply #5. Oct 30 10, 3:40 PM |
supersal1
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Trouble is, if you're going to go organic for the sake of your health, it's very difficult to avoid ingesting some non-organic produce. Then it's easy to think 'oh, why bother'. The organic produce I've sampled tastes little different from non-organic stuff. The only thing I've noticed a real difference with is carrots, for some reason. Reply #6. Oct 30 10, 4:14 PM |
| mjws1968
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It would be very difficult to live on a purely organic diet, some things are just too difficult to find or too expensive to buy in an organic form. The difference in taste is most noticeable with vegetables and white meat, where the slower unassisted growth leads to better flavour and texture. Carrots and potatoes are the most noticeable, anybody over 40 will remember the earthy taste of potatoes in the 60s that were grown naturally and without chemicals and will see that modern organic ones are close in taste to those. Modern non-organic potatoes taste of little and need seasoning and flavouring. The Soil Association is the main arbiter of what is and is not classified as organic, but it is a minefield. I mean how can you have organic olives when the tree was dosed with pesticides and growth accelerants during the first fifteen years of life and only classified as organic for the last five years before fruition occurred when these were withdrawn. I think a certain amount of judgement and leeway on behalf of the purchaser must be used. Reply #7. Oct 30 10, 8:36 PM |
Cymruambyth
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I try to stick to the 100 km diet, which entails eating foodstuffs grown within 100 km of my home. Because of our extreme climate, it's easier to do in the summer and fall than in spring and winter - except for meat, but I battle on! I buy free-range meat products - chicken, pork, lamb (no veal or beef, although I admit to succumbing to the occasional beef stew in winter, and the occasional - about four times a year - hamburger). I buy my fish at a local outlet for the Gimli fishing co-operative (Gimli is a fishing town on Lake Winnipeg, and Lake Winnipeg is home to a succulent whitefish called pickerel, which is, I'm convinced, God's favourite fish!) In the summer and fall, I buy my fruit and veg at a local farmer's market that sells locally-grown produce that has never been treated with pesticides. The fruit and veg thing is harder to do in the spring and the winter, though. I buy my bread at a local bakery which makes the best bread I have ever tasted since the days when my mother baked all our bread at home. On occasion, I make my own bread - usually when I need to take out some frustration; kneading dough is great therapy! Reply #8. Nov 03 10, 8:10 PM |
playmate1111
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Bread machines are wonderful CYM - we make all our own bread here. Much healthier, no additives, colorants, etc. Reply #9. Jan 22 11, 6:33 AM |
| lesley153
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I made bread for a long time, by hand, and loved it. Just flour, water, yeast, a spot of salt and oil, and a bit of judgement. No odd ingredients sneaked in - no vinegar, no "flour improvers," no preservatives (if the bread's good enough, it doesn't need preservatives - they're only there for the manufacturers' benefit), no added bran, no de-fatted soya flour. How can you add soya flour and still call it a wholemeal loaf? For a while, I used a machine (£30 impulse buy from Tesco) but didn't like getting small square loaves with a hole in the bottom where the mixing blades went. For every day, I made wholemeal loaves with organic stoneground flour; for occasional treats, I added fried onions and grated cheese; for a change, I made smaller loaves with organic unbleached white flour and olive oil, and threw in green olives. *drool* Much more of this and I shall have to start baking again. Reply #10. Jan 22 11, 9:19 AM |
| playmate1111
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Sounds lovely Leslie - I'm drooling too. Would love to be able to make bread by hand but don't have the strength. Have nerve problems in my hand :( Reply #11. Jan 22 11, 9:55 AM |
| lesley153
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I stopped too many years ago, because I was convalescing (for a change) and didn't have the strength and energy. Now I think I have, and have to see if I have. If I can't cope, I shall think seriously about getting a good machine. I asked a friend if she fancied having a go with my £30 machine. She didn't like it either, so she passed it on and bought a good one. I might be next. If I can start again, I shall no longer be at the mercy of the supermarkets. I'm sorry about your hands. There's always something, isn't there? Thank goodness for blood tests that tell me I'm not gluten-intolerant, and thank goodness for machines that let us do things we can't do without them. Where were we? Oh yes - hovering around the shelves of organic bread flour, and hoping Tesco still give you a chunk of fresh yeast when you buy their flour. Reply #12. Jan 22 11, 11:45 AM |
shido22
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I'm relatively new to purchasing organic food, and don't usually have the money for it these days. However, my friend (who's much more knowledgable about this) told me a few things. She said that, except for juicing, buying only some organic foods won't have much of an improvement for your health. She said it was very helpful to purchase organic foods for juicing, as toxins are more easily absorbed after jucing. Also, I just inherited a bread maker myself. Your chats on this are inspiring me to get started with it. Thanks. :) Reply #13. Jan 23 11, 12:44 AM |
steelman86
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Organic foods are a scam. Just another way to bump up the price of something because it has an "Organic" sticker on it. Reply #14. Jun 03 11, 9:30 PM |
| lesley153
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Mike: "...anybody over 40 will remember the earthy taste of potatoes in the 60s that were grown naturally..." I'm over 40 (cough cough just) and I remember when Jersey Royals were an occasional treat that would make you sigh with their deliciousness. Now they just taste like any other new potato. Every year, the growers say they're just the same, while consumers say "Oh really? They don't taste the same." There have also been dark mutterings about European directives to stop using the traditional fertiliser, which may have been kelp-based and may have contributed to the distinctive flavour. They've been denied too. Last week, I bought some organic Jersey Royals, and they did taste better than non-organic ones, but still nothing out of the ordinary. Anyone know what went wrong? Reply #15. Jun 17 11, 2:45 PM |
honeybee4
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We just harvested our russet potatoes. We grew them organically but they were planted from store bought potatoes that were sprouting in the potato box. I don't know if that makes them truly organic but they sure are good. Reply #16. Jun 17 11, 4:32 PM |
| lesley153
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The Soil Association might not give them a seal of approval but they'd be organic enough for me. Glad you enjoyed them! Reply #17. Jun 17 11, 6:25 PM |
daver852
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Better living through chemistry! Reply #18. Jun 17 11, 6:49 PM |
| Cymruambyth
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My grandfather was a market gardener who never used any chemical fertilizers (hirse manure was his idea of a good fertlizer)or pesticides, and his orchards, fields and greenhouses produced fruit and vegetables that you could actually taste. He also followed the age-old farming tradition of letting fields lie fallow on a regular basis so that the natural aids to plant growth could be replenished. He also kept bees and made wonderful honey. When I stayed with my grandfather during summer holidays, he and I would leave the house just before dawn in the pearly-grey not-quite-light (Grampy called it cat's light) and we'd pick mushrooms, then return home to fry them up with home-cured bacon, and eat them with doorsteps of homemade bread with homemade butter. It doesn't get much more organic than that, and darn it all, my keyboard is covered with drool, just remembering those delightful dawn feasts! Anyone who can't tell the difference in taste between organic and non-organic fruit, vegetables and meat has had their tastebuds destroyed by fast food and processed food! Reply #19. Jun 18 11, 12:04 AM |
tag2371
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Organic definately makes a difference,it tastes better and is better for you. When it comes to cost you are paying for a better product. Reply #20. Aug 28 11, 7:14 AM |
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