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That made very interesting reading, thank you. I have a question though. When writing a quiz, we have to be aware that any one of the individual questions from that quiz could be used elsewhere on the site and the context needs to be clear so the questions stand alone. Without using the title, as in the example of the Wizard of Oz book quiz, what is the best way to do this please? Reply #1. Jun 15 13, 11:56 AM |
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I agree with Zippo on both of his/her points... That was a very interesting post, so thank you very much CellarDoor. Their second point needs clarification as I always find 'out of context' questions in mixed quizzes very frustrating. Reply #2. Jun 15 13, 1:20 PM |
CellarDoor
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Subcategory information is also displayed in timed games, usually next to the quiz title. So if I have a quiz called "Dreams Come True" in the "Wizard of Oz" subcategory, that's fine -- players who see the question in a timed game should see that the subcategory is "Wizard of Oz." Meanwhile, the main category or icon (a clapperboard for Movies or an open book for Literature) tells the observant player whether the question is about the movie or the book, but if this makes a different you might like to underline the fact in the info section, at least. If the subcategory doesn't give contextual information -- say that your quiz is going under "B Authors", for example -- then yes, either the title or the questions should indicate the book from which you're drawing your material. It can be tricky to add context to each and every question without getting extremely repetitive over the course of the quiz, but it can be done! Try shaking up your wording. Put the context at the beginning of some questions and the end of others -- or maybe in the middle. "According to 'The Wizard of Oz'" will get the job done, but it can be nicer to work the title into the narrative more smoothly. For example, you might try something like "After Dorothy leaves the munchkin welcoming party, who is the next person she meets in 'The Wizard of Oz'?" Reply #3. Jun 15 13, 1:29 PM |
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As part of this, I'd like to stress to tournament players that the quiz title and subcategory are important clues, to be ignored at your peril. We often get correction notes from players who say something like "How was I to know that this question about someone named "Paul" was about Paul McCartney?" when the quiz was titled "The Fab Four" and the subcategory was "The Beatles". All questions must be fair, but they don't all have to spoonfeed you - make use of every possible clue! Reply #4. Jun 15 13, 2:24 PM |
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That is actually very handy in the Fill-Me-In game. Reply #5. Jun 16 13, 5:14 PM |
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It can also be a good idea to rely on authorities, so the question isn't about what is universally true but what does so-and-so declare to be true. For example, in my quiz about dangling participles, to stave off arguments, I would use examples from Strunk & White and other published experts, and some of the questions would be about what the authors saw as the problem with a given sentence. Reply #6. Jun 16 13, 5:17 PM |
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Yes, in Music we will only accept questions about a song's meaning, or the story behind a band's name, that kind of thing, if it is supported by a reliable source named in the question. If you don't have something like "According to Joe Rockstar's biography, "My Life", what was blah blah" that question won't be accepted. The source would have to be something that a player familiar with the subject could reasonably be expected to have access to - a twenty year old interview in a magazine with a circulation of 200 won't fly. Reply #7. Jun 16 13, 6:09 PM |
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And please use primary authorities, not Wikipedia. It can be a great place to get ideas, but if you want to make authoritative statements, you need to go to the sources from which the Wikipedia information came, to ensure that it was transferred accurately (which isn't always the case). Reply #8. Jun 16 13, 11:09 PM |
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CellarDoor's discursis at the head of this thread is perhaps the most sensible and well-expressed treatment of any of this sort. I, like several of my betters, agree that, when questions are to be lifted out of the context of the quizzes for which they were composed, the question itself often needs greater specificity, even to the point of repeating contextual data in every question. "The Raven" (1845 poem) by Edgar Allan Poe is probably the best known use of the title. There are, however, other uses such as "The Raven" (1915 silent film) Charles Brabin; "The Raven" (1935 film) with Boris Karloff and Bela Lugosi; 'Le Corbeau" (The Raven) (1943 French film noir) by Henri-Georges Clouzot; "The Raven" (1963 film), a comedy film with Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, and Peter Lorre; "The Raven" (2006 film) by Ulli Lommel; "The Raven" (2007 film) David DeCoteau; "The Raven" (2012 film) James McTeigue; "The Raven" (1997 episode of "Star Trek: Voyager"); "The Raven" (a fairy tale) collected by the Brothers Grimm; "The Raven" (fairy tale) Giambattista Basile; "The Raven" (1798 poem) by Samuel Taylor Coleridge; "The Raven: The Love Story of Edgar Allan Poe" (1904 play) by George Cochrane Hazelton; "The Raven" (1937 novel) by John Creasey; "The Raven" (1995 novel) by Peter Landesman; "The Raven" (2011 novel) by Patrick Carman; "The Raven (2013 novel) by Jeremy Robinson; "The Raven" (2016 novel) by Mike Nappa; "The Raven" (1971 composition for narrator and orchestra) by Leonard Slatkin; "The Raven" (1976 song) by the Alan Parsons Project; "The Raven" (1979 title song and record album) by The Stranglers; "The Raven" (2003 title song and record album) by Lou Reed; 18th century Cherokee Chief Savanukahwn ("The Raven"); "The Raven" (28 1995 watercolor paintings) by Nabil Kanso; "The Raven" (wooden roller coaster in Indiana); "Raven" (DC Comics superheroine) appearing in comic books, television and motion pictures since 1980; not to be confused with The Raven Room in the Pan Pacific Whistler Village Centre in British Columbia. Sometimes you just gotta be explicit in identifying whether you mean the fowl in Ed Poe's ditty or some other raven, of which there are lots. Quod erat demonstrandum. Reply #9. Jul 08 24, 7:24 PM |
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