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Subject: Princess Diana

Posted by: Shiningstar7
Date: Jul 01 10

Today is still the 1st of July where I am, I know it's already the 2nd in other parts of the world, but the 1st July is Princess Diana's birthday. She would have been 49 today. I miss her.

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Shiningstar7 star


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Three years ago, Prince William and Harry arranged a huge birthday party for Diana's 46th birthday at Wembley Stadium, 10 years after her death. It was a perfect success and very memorable.

http://www.concertfordiana.com/home/index.aspx

Reply #1. Jul 01 10, 9:52 PM
Cymruambyth star


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While not wishing to diminish Diana's sterling contributions to caring for the victims of such worldwide concerns as AIDS/HIV and landmines, I think it's time we let her rest in peace. One wonders whether or not she'd be such an object of veneration had she lived instead of dying so tragically.

Reply #2. Jul 02 10, 9:46 AM
dolly_llama
Happy Birthday Princess Diana, and blessings to her sons.

Reply #3. Jul 02 10, 11:08 AM
lesley153
Cym, absolutely not. The press and bad comedians loved her, because they could be as rude as they wanted about her, with no comeback. There is a long tradition that the royal family doesn't answer back, and my goodness didn't the media make the most of it!

All the remarks were about Diana's romantic dalliances, and most of them were spiteful. All that changed when she died, though. Overnight she made the transition from national trollop to people's princess. I think that's arguably the most mealy-mouthed volte face I have ever seen. Ugh.

The press and bad comedians (people like Patrick Kielty, who try for laughs by insulting public figures) also spent years getting laughs by saying "Camilla, she's so ugly..." Thank goodness that has stopped now as well, probably when she married Charles, which I think is what they should have done in the first place. IMHO!

I wonder what she would have looked like at 46. It's sad that her sons won't know.

Reply #4. Jul 02 10, 11:57 AM
supersal1 star
It was sad that she died, but I found the outpouring of grief rather mystifying. The first thing that popped into my head when she died was a vision of her sitting on a cloud, thumbing her nose and saying "Huh, top that Charlie". Dying when she did, she was practically turned into some sort of martyr. She did a lot of charity work but so do other Royals, it's pretty much expected of them, and I always felt that although she was genuinely concerned for the aids patients/landmine/victims/orphans she always had one eye on the photo opportunity.

Strangely enough, whenever I see a photo of Prince Harry doing the same thing I always get the feeling that he's very genuine.

Reply #5. Jul 02 10, 3:14 PM
lesley153
The first thing that popped into my head when I heard the news was "Goodness, that lets the royal family off the hook!"

Reply #6. Jul 02 10, 3:20 PM
supersal1 star
I thought completely the opposite. If she'd have lived, she could have dug herself into a hole by hooking up with some 'unsuitable' man, or there could have been a smear campaign against her. As it was, she went out pretty much on a high and is remembered pretty much as a martyred, tragic figure, with the Royals as the villains of the piece.



Reply #7. Jul 02 10, 4:15 PM
lesley153
That's exactly it - different ideas for the same reason. The
British constitution doesn't have a bit for the heir to the Throne plus Fid Def having a Muslim stepfather, and they would have been really at sea when she hooked up with the son of a shopkeeper. It may have been a big, famous shop, but that hasn't got him invited to any Buckingham Palace dinner parties.

Reply #8. Jul 02 10, 4:31 PM
Lochalsh
Fid Def? Is that a financial institution or the name of a rapper?

Why, oh why, can't the English learn to speak? ;-)

Reply #9. Jul 02 10, 4:58 PM
lesley153
My apologies to all non-English-speakers.

Since Henry VIII, the monarch of Great Britain has had the title of Fidei Defensor, which is Latin for Defender of the Faith. In the context, the faith is the country's official religion, and the powers that be are a lot more comfortable when the whole royal family belongs to the Church of England. (Prince Charles may change all that. We shall see.)

It's abbreviated to F.D. on coins. It used to be Fid Def but I haven't seen that for years.

How am I doing?

Reply #10. Jul 02 10, 5:38 PM
Lochalsh
Non-English speakers? Ouch, Lesley! :-)

F.D. makes *me* think of Franklin Delano, but, oh well....

Thank you for the explanation, ma'am. (Do I curtsey?)

Reply #11. Jul 02 10, 5:53 PM
lesley153
"Non-English speakers?"
I didn't mean you! :)

If you want - who would you like to curtsey to? Nobody I know gets curtseys but the Queen would.

Reply #12. Jul 02 10, 6:47 PM
Lochalsh
I'm in a brain fog. At first, I thought you were referring to those who don't speak English, then it occurred to me that you meant those who don't share your nationality.

Since Diana is no longer here, I'll curtsey to you. (As I sweep nearly headlong to the floor)
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Diana, despite her shortcomings, did perform at least one worthwhile deed for the Crown: she improved the physical appearance of the royal family. (Is that superficial of me? So be it.)

Reply #13. Jul 02 10, 6:53 PM
C30


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You know the only difference between fame and obscurity is media hype!

Diana would have been 49 on 1st July..............my ex-wife would have been 74 on 5th July..............so?

Never could understand the almost hysterical media outpouring over Diana, who was, imo "a Sloane Ranger" who got out of her depth. It is always tragic when lives get snuffed out....but that is "the luck of the draw".

Also, what does a person's looks matter? If only those with perfect features and physical perfection were "allowed" to find love, 90% of us would be out of luck. "Beauty", is indeed, "In the eyes of the beholder".

Reply #14. Jul 02 10, 6:59 PM
honeybee4 star
Despite everything mentioned, I had nothing but love for her and it hurt very much when she died. I will always be a conspiracy theorist and I believe her death was suspicious. She would never be allowed to marry Dodi Fayad, and what if she really was pregnant with his child. I didn't realize she shared a birthday with my husband.

Reply #15. Jul 02 10, 7:21 PM
lesley153
Lochalsh, please don't try - not till you've had a good night's sleep, and practised till you know you won't fall over.

Ray, I agree, she was a a Sloane Ranger who thought she could change "The Firm," which is odd because she spent so much time with them, you'd have thought she would have known.

I'm sure she was a lot closer to her children than the Queen ever was to hers. Anything else? Can't think of anything. Oh yes - she was expected to call her husband Sir, but she fought for - and won - the right to call him Charles. Her closest friends were told to address her as ma'am. In particularly warm moments, they might be permitted to call her ma'am darling. Didn't she just tell everyone to call her Diana?

Judy, I'm with you and the conspiracy theorists. Her death, just as she was getting very close to Dodi; may or may not have been engaged to him; may or may not have been pregnant; was just too convenient.

Reply #16. Jul 02 10, 7:48 PM
Cymruambyth star


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It's all speculation at this point, isn't it? Anyone remember the lady who died at around the same time as Diana? Of course, she had a face like a crushed leather handbag and wore an outfit that seemed to have been made out of sewn-together tea towels, but she did a lot of good in her lifetime. I was more saddened by her death than I was by Diana's. Diana's greatest legacy is two nice young men - William and Harry.

Reply #17. Jul 02 10, 8:01 PM
Lochalsh
Yes, we remember Mother Teresa, as well. I'm glad to have shared the world for a bit with her, and with Diana. They were both exceptional human beings, each in her own way.
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Lesley, I've already made the curtsey, picked myself up, and dusted myself off. Did you not feel the vibrations (the emotional ones, to be sure) across the Atlantic?

Reply #18. Jul 02 10, 8:07 PM
lesley153
For me, the sad thing was that she died leaving young children. I had an aunt who died when her sons were 13 and 18.

Reply #19. Jul 02 10, 8:11 PM
lesley153
Must learn not to spend ten minutes getting side-tracked before I press [ post reply ].

Sorry, no didn't feel anything. Perhaps because I was engrossed in my side-tracking. Would you like to try it again? Or sleep first?

Reply #20. Jul 02 10, 8:13 PM
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