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Subject: Princess Diana
Posted by: Shiningstar7
Date: Jul 01 10
Today is still the 1st of July where I am, I know it's already the 2nd in other parts of the world, but the 1st July is Princess Diana's birthday. She would have been 49 today. I miss her.
Posted by: Shiningstar7
Date: Jul 01 10
Today is still the 1st of July where I am, I know it's already the 2nd in other parts of the world, but the 1st July is Princess Diana's birthday. She would have been 49 today. I miss her.
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Lochalsh
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*thud* Reply #21. Jul 02 10, 8:46 PM |
Cymruambyth 
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Lesley, I think Locjalsh just fell asleep. Reply #22. Jul 02 10, 11:06 PM |
| Cymruambyth
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And since I'm making too many typos, I'm going to follow Lochalsh's example and fall asleep, too. 'Night all! Reply #23. Jul 02 10, 11:08 PM |
poneke
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I'm in the 'she was murdered' camp! See you all next year at Di's 50th birthday bash :) Reply #24. Jul 03 10, 2:01 AM |
lesley153
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Fell asleep mid-curtsey? Ouch! :) Morning all! Poneke, I thought at first look that you meant lochalsh was murdered for curtseying. I should have stayed in bed a bit longer! I wonder how many people believe what they were told - that her death was a tragic accident, and she really truly honestly wasn't even just the tiniest bit pregnant? Reply #25. Jul 03 10, 4:45 AM |
| Lochalsh
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Reports of my murder are greatly exaggerated. I just *look* like death warmed over at this early-matutinal hour. __________ I simply feel sad that Diana died so young, and that her sons lost her so early. She would always have struggled with the royal family, though, I'm afraid. Put me in the conspiracy niche. I'm not usually so suspicious, but this time I definitely am. Reply #26. Jul 03 10, 5:47 AM |
| Cymruambyth
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I don't usually disagree with Lesley, Lochalsh or Poneke, but now I'm disagreeing with all three at once! I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and even if I was, the last person I'd suspect of conspiracy to murder is Queen Elizabeth, and if Diana was bumped off, the Queen would have to know. Reply #27. Jul 03 10, 7:17 AM |
baldricksmum
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I also think there would have been much more efficient ways to dispose of her - a car accident doesn't necessarily result in death (unless the theory is that she was "done in" after the accident). Reply #28. Jul 03 10, 8:02 AM |
| Lochalsh
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As I said earlier, I'm not normally given to thoughts of conspiracy. I would hope that the young princes could have been raised as more nearly "Windsorly," and Charles could have married his true love, without having recourse to dastardly deeds. Then again, I'm theorizing from my own bourgeois base; my dynasty will continue, or it won't continue, and history will be none the worse for wear. Reply #29. Jul 03 10, 8:46 AM |
| Lochalsh
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My grammar is lousy: I should have said "without *someone's* having recourse to dastardly deeds." I would not have had that recourse, nor would any of the princes. (English is difficult for us non-English speakers of English.) Reply #30. Jul 03 10, 8:50 AM |
| lesley153
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Cym, I think agreement is vastly overrated. :) Didn't Diana say she thought that Philip and Charles were after her? I'm sure they are both capable of directing operations without getting the Queen involved. A car crash isn't guaranteed to kill, but is the easiest thing to orchestrate and then label an accident. Spiking the driver's drink would help. So would an unexpected delay in getting emergency services to the scene, or getting the injured to hospital. We don't all have to think the same things - that's part of the fun of being grown up. Reply #31. Jul 03 10, 8:51 AM |
| lesley153
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Lochalsh - don't fret about immaculate grammar - we tend to read what was meant, rather than what was written... don't we? For instance, nobody thinks Charles does everything himself. One has people to do that sort of thing... And what's this about non-English speakers of English? Have I upset you? :'( Reply #32. Jul 03 10, 8:55 AM |
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(Sniggers) ...Life is full of surprises Cym!( And Kudos to you for remembering my favourite 'mum'...Teresa oxo) Diana being bumped off doesn't mean the Queen would have known, or even the Royal Family been involved. Di was an anti-mine campaigner and she rattled the cages of people in the arms industry.Funny how from that trip to Angola then Bosnia, she was labelled a 'loose cannon' and stories surfaced about her supposed mental illness; which as we all know had two legs and was called Camilla. Follow the money...who manufactures these landmines,who do they sell to,who actually buys them,who uses them and why, where do the buyers get the money or loans to fund their dealings etc etc. When the answers come to these questions one can see a global web of many institutions whose interests were jeopardised by having a princess speak against them. Rather than say Brangelina and co, who just buy babies; or a random aid worker; or somebody like me, without a recognisable public profile and little 'power' or 'influence'.I do see her boys hugging babies and visiting the poor and needy around the world ( Good work Boys). But I don't see them continuing her work in the dangerous realm of the Global Arms Trade. They must have been told to 'let sleeping dogs lie' or they just aren't interested in that aspect of their late mother's work. I'm finding Naomi Campbell's answers to the source of her 'blood diamond' fascinating. Diamond trade is an interesting one too. One of the funniest (and still disturbing) books I read on the global arms trade was written by an Englishman. Mark Thomas:"As used on the famous Nelson Mandela", I hope it's available in a local library. I can say this though...if I had the unfortunate fate of being a baby machine to a man I loved, but whom loved another, followed everywhere by paparazzi for the rest of my days&nights; then I too would have grown tired of being photographed coming out of a restaurant or sunbathing. I would have taken on a few of the big issues like Di did. Members of the British secret service labelled her a 'loose cannon' when she went into Angola and called for an International Ban on landmines. Can't tell me the Brits were the only agency keeping tabs on HRH,Princess Di. Imho, too right she was bumped off. Her driver wasn't drunk, she wasn't pregnant or nuts...just influential and unstoppable therefore dangerous and ultimately expendable. Reply #33. Jul 03 10, 9:28 AM |
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No, Lesley, ma'am darling, you haven't upset me. But for an accident of birth in a country where precise language gets short shrift, I would have seen the first light of day in England and wouldn't have had to worry about my grammar. Truly. Then again: I *am* a foreign-language professional, as well as a Virgo, so I would still worry! ____________ Lesley, you said just what I was thinking. Perhaps the royal family was not directly involved in Diana's death, but there are certainly ways of getting things done when you have money, power, and prestige. And, yes, I'd think a car accident would be easier to feign than many other kinds. I suppose I was afraid to express exactly what I meant. "The Little Lochalsh in the Tower" doesn't appeal to me as a sobriquet. Reply #34. Jul 03 10, 9:30 AM |
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poneke, for me, that was the definitive post on the subject of conspiracy in this case. Thank you. Reply #35. Jul 03 10, 9:32 AM |
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Sorry Lesley, my computer's playing up and at first I couldn't see your post. Plus I'm writing and watching Germany...GOAL!3-0....beat Argentina at the same time:-) Morning! -ok maybe she was pregnant, but I don't think that's 'why' she was killed. Lochalsh can't be as bad as my passport photos I just had done! Do they have a special 'ugly camera' for these things. Friends I've shown have cringed then laughed their heads off! Only border patrol gets to see, from now on! Reply #36. Jul 03 10, 9:37 AM |
| poneke
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Loch,I'd courtsey in thanks, but I've got my pj's on:-) Reply #37. Jul 03 10, 9:43 AM |
| lesley153
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Lochalsh, there isn't enough room in the tower for all the people who suspect a conspiracy by the royal family. If you had been born here, you would have had an education which included grammar, and spent the rest of your life cringing, because subsequent generations didn't: and are often heard saying "Nah, English don't 'ave grammar, innit." Poneke, why are you apologising? Your post was superb - full of *facepalm* why-didn't-I-think-of-that moments. Mark Thomas is a genius, described as a comedian and political activist. What better way to make yourself appear non-threatening, and to get serious points across, than through comedy? Good point about pregnancy. It might have been the reason, or part of the reason, if the royal family had wanted her bumped off, but we don't know who it was. The global arms trade was probably less interested in whether or not she was pregnant. Do they have ugly cameras where you are too? :D Poneke, I'll curtsey for you. Oh no - better not - I might fall over. Ooh too late. *thud* Reply #38. Jul 03 10, 9:59 AM |
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hehehee I was apologising for making you think loch had been murdered, but Germany scored and I lost my train of thought:-). Waiting now for Cym to get back from the library:-) I agree Mark Thomas is a genius! Wish I had as big a funny bone to put a smile on what is an inconvenient truth for many. Reply #39. Jul 03 10, 10:39 AM |
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This is just one of the conspiracy articles. There are just as many articles that debunk this one, but it gives one reasons to think about. http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=528361 Reply #40. Jul 03 10, 10:45 AM |
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