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Subject: Fake Moon Landings

Posted by: wildwohl
Date: Jul 17 11

Why has no one came out and admitted they were part of the faked moon landings? Weird that people believe the landings were faked, yet no one has came out and said they were part of the project. Go fig.

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lesn
Insults are never arguments.

Regarding the sounds, these were not from the space module but on the Moon surface (where there is no sound ...fact)
Spacesuits could pick up sound maybe but there are a few where there sound was too far away for this to happen.
As I said I am not necessarily convinced either way but I cannot ignore certain things.
To say all of these things are all faked videos is surely the same argument that the conspiracy theorists are saying about NASA?
The argument is that the conspiracy theorists fake everything they show, but NASA never faked anything is not reasonable.
It rather shows that if you start with a preconceived idea about what you believe you will believe that the evidence for your argument is always accurate and anything contrary is faked.
Not very scientific that.


Reply #61. Feb 21 19, 4:18 AM
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False. The communications systems were all linked together, the astronauts, the lunar module, and the space center. Due to the time lags which absolutely did exist, a noise that was heard while a camera was showing the moon's surface could have come from anywhere. The flight director at Mission Control could have bumped his knee on a table at the point in the YouTube video shown years later without proper context. To assume any sound was coming from the moon's surface is patently ridiculous. However, if an astronaut had bumped into something, there would have been a sound, since sound is transmitted by the air inside the spacesuit.

Not all opinions are deserving of respect. Not the flat earthers, and not the deniers of established history. It is not scientific to claim open mindedness about matters one when one is thoroughly ignorant of the scientific principles underlying the matter. A person objecting to a scientific argument would have the "burden of proof" upon him to convince others in a truly settled situation such as this. "Open mindedness"? More like empty-headedness. Some opinions are just intentionally wrong, and need to be called out as so, to reduce the spread of this degree of ignorance.

One of the basic principles of science is Occam's razor, which states the simplest explanation which explains the observed facts is the best one, and one should not multiply one's assumptions unnecessarily. It is easier to believe that a stray sound on a video from fifty years ago came from an unidentified source in the communication linkup than that it came from the moon's surface, but assuming there was a massive conspiracy to film fake moon landings secretly and try to pass it off to the whole world is even more insulting to people capable of critical reasoning. Conspiracy theories, by their very nature, depend on multiple undemonstrated assumptions, and are therefore not to be taken seriously unless the people intentionally spreading these ideas can demonstrate the hundreds of assumptions they are making.

Reply #62. Feb 21 19, 12:49 PM
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"Open mindedness" on matters of settled history is irrational, as are conspiracy theories in general. A truly open minded person would Google "moon landings faked Snopes" to see all the reasons why people who claim this are wrong, dishonest, or both. You might as well be open minded on whether the sun rises in the west. The whole premise is just ridiculous.

Snopes.com does an excellent job debunking false claims.

Reply #63. Feb 26 19, 2:12 PM
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Here's just one:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/buzz-aldrin-moon-admission/

It is particularly insulting and dishonest to claim that the great Buzz Aldrin, who is still alive, did anything other than tell the truth about his great achievement in Apollo 11. That is verified fact, and no number of dishonest, ignorant, intentional distortions of history will ever change that.

Many other debunkings of this absolute nonsense can be found on Snopes.

Reply #64. Feb 26 19, 2:21 PM
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Why do I get the feeling that many of the people who are posting on this thread weren't alive on July 20, 1969?

Reply #65. Mar 21 19, 7:52 PM
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I was, but I was only five (almost six) and don't remember Apollo 11. I do remember our second grades classes being interrupted with the breaking story of Apollo 13, but only vaguely. I certainly can't comment as to the quality of the TV images at the time from my memory.

Reply #66. Mar 22 19, 9:12 PM
lez
I was 11 and watched it on a small black and white telly

Reply #67. Apr 16 19, 5:39 AM
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Lesn, are you seriously talking about CGI errors from 1969?

Reply #68. Jul 15 19, 10:12 AM
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On the day the first moon landings were televised live in 1969 my mother insisted they were fake and that they had been filmed in a desert either in the USA or Australia.

Reply #69. Oct 06 19, 2:05 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7cl0hmI0Yk

Reply #70. Dec 08 19, 6:12 PM
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I remember watching it on TV when it happened.

Reply #71. Jul 11 20, 4:22 AM
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I was six years old and my dad was stationed in Wurzburg Germany. I remember that AFN (American Forces Network) showed it live. My dad let me stay up to watch it with him.

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