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Subject: Forensic Facial Reconstructions

Posted by: Creedy
Date: Sep 16 17

On some of the familiar names throughout history. hope you find it as fascinating as I did to see what they may have looked like.

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Yow... King Richard III DOES look like Quentin Tarantino, and Nefertiti looks just like David Bowie's wife, the former model, Iman. They could be twins.

Those are great, Creedy! Do you have more?


Reply #21. Sep 20 17, 7:43 AM
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Daver, probably from wherever the skulls are. If the skulls are somewhere, there are probably photographs of all sides or scans of them stored somewhere. If a museum has the skull, the museum may have had the facial reconstruction done. If the person in question insisted his head be displayed at institution of higher learning (I can't remember who did that) than that place did it.

I know the Eygptian Museum of Antiquities has a vast collection of mummies and has done facial reconstructions on some of them such as Tutenkamun, his dad, his grandad, his grandma, and bunch of other relatives.

Reply #22. Sep 20 17, 8:16 AM
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Oh wow, that's amazing!

Reply #23. Sep 21 17, 2:55 AM
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King Henry IV. They did this one from a faccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc

Reply #24. Sep 21 17, 2:58 AM
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Gosh, what happened there. This is the third time this has happened lately a whole pile of Cs start appearing across the page.

Back to Henry IV. They did this reconstruction from a skull unearthed in Jamestown apparently in the attic of a retired tax collector, but some are now saying it is and it isn't Henry IV. That's Henry IV of France, not England. How on earth would his skull have ended up over there?

Aha, his tomb was ransacked during the French Revolution.

Lol, it says he was a very unpopular king, with 12 attempts made on his life - but he "popularity greatly improved" after his death. A dubious consolation.

http://m5.paperblog.com/i/53/537861/10-facial-reconstructions-of-famous-historica-L-7a5575.jpeg

Reply #25. Sep 21 17, 3:08 AM
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Italian poet Dante (1265-1321) - and goodness, he had a nose and a half. I wonder if he was the inspiration for Pinocchio?

http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/dante_reconstruction.jpg

Reply #26. Sep 21 17, 3:13 AM
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George Washington :)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTc2WDcyMA==/z/6E4AAOxyaTxTUVAC/$_35.JPG

You may be interested in this:

"...Washington's commanding appearance always inspired trust and admiration from those around him. As much as any other President, he had the elusive quality of charisma.

"When he was 27, a fellow member of the Virginia House of Burgesses described him as 'straight as an Indian, measuring 6'2" in his stockings and weighing 175 1bs (about 12 an a half stone).'

"This estimate may have been conservative: After Washington's death, his private secretary claimed that he measured the body and found it to be 6' 3 1/2" tall. Whatever his actual height, Washington was always considered a giant, and his body remained sinewy and strong, never exceeding 200 1bs. in weight.

"His massive frame supported enormous hands that required specially-made gloves, and feet that called for size 13 boots. His cool, steady, blue-gray eyes, recalling in Emerson's phrase, 'an ox gazing out of a pasture,' (that's not very flattering) furthered the impression of massive strength.

"An attack of smallpox when he was 18 had left his skin pockmarked, but it also left him immune to the disease that later ravaged his Continental Army. By age 57, Washington had lost nearly all his teeth, and he began a long and frustrating search for a pair of dentures that would fit him properly. The wooden and ivory false teeth that he finally selected were so unsatisfactory that he kept his lips tightly compressed during his later years, and his jaw developed that awkward, unnatural set that appears in most of his portraits. His dentures also left Washington with such deeply sunken cheeks that Gilbert Stuart, when painting his most famous likeness of the great man, stuffed his subject's cheeks with cotton; a close examination of this portrait reveals the artificial bulge.

"The natural color of Washington's hair was sandy brown, but he wore it powdered white and further obscured under a fashionable white wig. In 1760, Capt. George Mercer noted that in conversation Washington 'looks you full in the face, is deliberate, deferential and engaging. His movements and gestures are graceful, his walk majestic, and he is a splendid horseman.'

"But beneath this cool and polished exterior, Washington hid a furious temper. On one occasion as commander-in-chief, he became so exasperated at the quarreling of drunken soldiers in front of his headquarters, that he forgot the dignity of a general, rushed out, and knocked several of the brawlers cold with his own massive fists. When provoked, the "father of our country" could let loose a torrent of curses that would make even a modern President blush. Washington's private secretary once commented that the most dreaded experience in his life was hearing the general swear"

Here's a copy of the painting with his cheeks stuffed with cotton wool:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Stuart-george-washington-constable-1797.jpg


Reply #27. Sep 21 17, 3:23 AM
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Second try for his facial reconstruction:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTc2WDcyMA==/z/6E4AAOxyaTxTUVAC/$_35.JPG

Reply #28. Sep 21 17, 3:25 AM
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Oh I give up. He was really VERY impressive looking. Unusually fair skin, reddish coloured hair starting to go grey, steely blue eyes. I wouldn't have liked to cross him.

Reply #29. Sep 21 17, 3:28 AM
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Try this for old George

http://www.google.com/search?q=george+washington+face+mask&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#imgrc=dVPp3XoLj7poPM:&spf=1505986727471

Reply #30. Sep 21 17, 3:39 AM
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Better yet:

http://www.themorgan.org/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/images/exhibitions/online/gw-life-mask-front.jpg?itok=d8VO2v0r

Reply #31. Sep 21 17, 3:40 AM
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Ah, here's the one you see Creedy:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/97/02/f39702bf0bb1eb7dc38ffb82200ea2d9.jpg

Reply #32. Sep 21 17, 3:42 AM
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Unpopular Henry IV kind of looks like an older Robin Williams.

Reply #33. Sep 21 17, 3:50 AM
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Poor George Washington! But in that painting with chipmunk cheeks, his hands are indeed enormous.

His reconstruction looks kind of like Kevin Spacey!

Reply #34. Sep 21 17, 3:59 AM
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Is that last George a painting??? It almost looks like a photograph. That's amazing, actually. Love those steely blue eyes.

Reply #35. Sep 21 17, 4:00 AM
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Who painted that, do you know?

Reply #36. Sep 21 17, 4:03 AM
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Thanks, Mira, that last one was the one I was trying to put in. It's amazing, isn't it?

That painting of GW with the puffy cheeks was painted in 1797 by Gilbert Stuart, BD. I'm never going to be able to look at I again without thinking of chipmunks.

I'll put some more in tomorrow - yawning my head off here. There's one of Robbie Burns which is disappointing. His poetry is lovely but his reconstruction definitely is not. he looks like he may have had bucked teeth and was a bit of a wimp. I'd imagined him as rugged and masculine :( His paintings though are much better.

https://burnsmuseum.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/dundee-university-reconstruction-image-for-press.jpg

I can't get the tiny URL to work, so here's the longer one sorry.

https://burnsmuseum.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/dundee-university-reconstruction-image-for-press.jpg





Reply #37. Sep 21 17, 5:37 AM
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Oh my goodness, I've just had a terrible thought.

Is it true that we're not supposed to put in attachments on the site?? I suddenly remembered reading it somewhere.

If this is the case, my sincere apologies for this thread because I've splattered it with attachments everywhere - it should be removed.

Reply #38. Sep 21 17, 7:38 PM
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No rule against attachments. Only obscene ones.


Reply #39. Sep 21 17, 11:07 PM
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Poor Rabbie Burns! I'll never get that image scraped off my corneas. He looks like "someone," too, but I haven't quite placed him yet. Not at all as I imagined him, either.

Creedy, you only really need to be concerned posting any link with a "comments" section, like YouTube videos. Those can and generally do get pretty awful.

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