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Subject: 100 Nouns (3) - COMPLETE

Posted by: trident
Date: Apr 28 18

Round 3 of 100 Nouns has arrived!

Here's a reminder on how the game works:

I will give two lists, each with 50 items. The first list will contain generic nouns that might be pretty easy to work into a question in many different ways. These would be words like clock, strawberry, or heart. The second list has much more specific words that are likely going to have to be directly about that topic (unless you can find an inventive way to make them about something else). This list would include things like Mount Kilimanjaro, Ulysses S. Grant, and barometric pressure. Some of the entries on this second list will be something you might need to research a little!

Authors must choose a word from each list, one generic and one specific, and write one question about each. Once you claim a word from a list, it is no longer available for other players to claim it. All nouns eventually have to be claimed before the series can end. Once you have written your two questions and submitted them to the queue, you are free to choose two more. It might be good manners not to keep choosing too many in a row too quickly, allowing others a chance at the list. Submitting and claiming words will mostly be on the honor system. You must submit the two questions to the queue before claiming any more. I will occasionally be checking the queue to make sure authors are actually submitting questions with their chosen nouns. Happy single questioning!

After some discussion with my fellow editors, we have established some more thorough rules to make the game run smoother. Please read them below:

1. Players may not have any remaining word pairs outstanding from the previous round if they want to claim any words this round. Word pairs from the previous round should be submitted to the queue before claiming any here.

2. In order to give everyone a fair shake at the word pairs, we are only allowing individual players to claim four word pairs per round. If many words have been sitting around unclaimed for a while (think 3-4 weeks), then we will open the round back up to everyone.

3. There will be no switching of words or word pairs of any kind. If you have decided to claim a word pair, please stick with it and submit it to the queue. If you absolutely cannot complete your word pair, it will be put back onto the word list and you may not complete any more word pairs for that round.

Happy single questioning!

List A (generic nouns)

airbag
almond
atmosphere
atom
buggy

cameo
canoe
card
cellar
chopsticks

concrete
cyst
doe
doll
engine

fencing
galleon
glockenspiel
hope
hut

kite
lumber
maracas
marsh
outfit

ornament
page
parade
pastor
piano

pilot
princess
quartz
reef
semicolon

settler
snowman
society
spear
stallion

sturgeon
sugar
surfboard
tractor
trellis

veldt
warlock
workshop
wrist
zipper

List B (specific nouns)

“A Boy Named Sue”
Aeschylus
Almaty, Kazakhstan
Ansel Adams
Appian Way

banded sugar ant
barefoot doctors
Battle of Borodino
Catherine de Medici
“Charlie Hebdo”

Chicxulub impactor
“Childe Harold's Pilgrimage”
chinoiserie
coral bleaching
cryptocurrency

Dido of Carthage
Edward the Confessor
Esperanto language
“Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”
flamenco guitar

Fort Ticonderoga
Frances McDormand
HMS Bounty
Hu Zhengyan
Imagine Dragons

Joe Friday
Kamala Khan
Kalahari Desert
Kingdom of Sardinia
“Las Meninas”

“Lotus Sutra”
magnetic resonance imaging
Manchu people
Marrakesh, Morocco
motte-and-bailey

nickel-cadmium battery
oligodynamic effect
Parma ham
philosopher’s stone
pigeon photography

“Remembrance of Things Past”
Sasha Velour
scarlet macaw
short-beaked echidna
“The False Mirror”

Treponema pallidum
Tsarskoye Selo
Vijayanagara Empire
War of the Austrian Succession
whale oil

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Fifiona81


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I'll go for stallion and motte-and-bailey next.

Reply #61. May 02 18, 2:34 PM
trident


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"Did anyone get the sense that this list was just a touch more challenging than the first two? Or was it just my usual and customary obtuseness kicking in? "

Could be. What did you find more challenging?

Reply #62. May 02 18, 6:00 PM
looney_tunes


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I will take society and "Remembrance of Things Past".

Reply #63. May 02 18, 7:45 PM
spanishliz


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May I have 'fencing' and 'pigeon photography' for my fourth pair, please?

Reply #64. May 02 18, 7:49 PM
looney_tunes


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Society submitted to Movies, "Remembrance of Things Past" to Literature.

Reply #65. May 02 18, 8:38 PM
FatherSteve star


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The second set -- the more specific words -- seemed to point toward questions which would be unlikely to produce correct answers at the level needed for acceptance. Some seemed more like the stuff one would find in one of the obscurity quizzes. I just felt (rather than reasoned) that there were a few more like this in this list than there had been in the previous lists ... 'tho it could have been that my mental battery is running on low.

Reply #66. May 02 18, 11:40 PM
Joepetz star


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Galleon has been submitted to history and Catherine de' Medici has been submitted to People.

Reply #67. May 03 18, 7:13 AM
Joepetz star


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I'll take warlock and Fort Ticonderoga.

Reply #68. May 03 18, 7:13 AM
LadyNym star


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"Spear" has been submitted to World, and "Kingdom of Sardinia" to People.

As my fourth and final pair, I'd gladly take "princess" and "Dido of Carthage".

Reply #69. May 03 18, 8:05 AM
rossian


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I've submitted my two. Page went to People and Tsarskoye Selo to Geography.

Reply #70. May 03 18, 11:11 AM
agony


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Further to what Father Steve said, above.... I've just been in editing single questions, and, yeah, some of this is getting pretty specific. That's not necessarily a problem, but keep in mind that while the *subject* of the question can be quite obscure, the actual question should be reasonably accessible.

It's all in the writing, whether a fairly obscure subject gives a great question, or one that is so hard everybody hates it.

Reply #71. May 03 18, 12:00 PM
gme24 star


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So basically that means stop asking silly questions because you are going to get stupid answers.

Reply #72. May 03 18, 12:12 PM
kyleisalive


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I'm all for the 100 Nouns challenges. I think they're an easy way to get our authors into single question writing in a way that I've never really worked into the Lounge (which, by and large, has just been quiz-centric). It's certainly given me the opportunity to write. Because of them, I've submitted a dozen single questions. That's more for that game than I've written in the past three years.

I would expect that most of our Lounge authors are using this as an opportunity to better-craft single questions. Yes, we obviously want to see more from our best authors (it's part of why something like this gets introduced, let alone everything else in the Lounge), and other posts in here about the bagelets for quality are certainly an indication that that's the direction we want to go.

But reminders like Agony's are very helpful. I've also been seeing a number of very, very specific and obscure submissions (in Entertainment, at least), sometimes for these challenges and sometimes not, and I've been rejecting them outright. Our editors are happy to let the players decide if a question is good or not (ratings are super-useful!) but we know when something isn't a fit for the game. And for those questions (questions like "What happened in this one comic strip in 1978?") I will ALWAYS recommend spring-boarding into a larger quiz that tests players on more specialized knowledge.

100 Nouns gives some VERY specific nouns, and while I definitely had some easier, specialized picks that leaned in my favour this go-around (no one was asking for Sasha Velour!), I actually agree with Steve. This round was tough. But that's good! I think that some of our more seasoned writers should be wrapping their heads around how to take a specialized noun and making it something workable. We're not looking for the nittiest grit of “Childe Harold's Pilgrimage”, but it's a wonderful opportunity to craft a question about Lord Byron or poetry of the Romantic Era (which, coincidentally, I did with 'Eternal Sunshine' in Movies this round) or pilgrimages in Literature. Your average trivia player isn't going to know the ins and outs of that poem (Hell, that was a field of study for me and I've never read it) but again, it's only a small seed of a topic; it doesn't need to be a ball-and-chain.

Reply #73. May 03 18, 12:57 PM
trident


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Right, I don't think the intent of having such specific nouns was so that we would have very specific questions. I think the reason I have made most of the nouns in the second list of each round so specific is because I took what I learned from writing my single questions that were successful and wanted a way to offer that to other players. That is, most of my single questions that are highly rated took a very specific idea and turned it into a question that was approachable. Players learned something new and interesting and rewarded the question with high ratings.

Players have seen hundreds or even thousands of questions about U.S. presidents, for example. But to learn something new by taking an educated guess about something such as "pigeon photography" might just move a player who rates most questions average up to the top rating.

One last point I would make is that the Golden Question I wrote was about the Svalbard Global Seed Vault. This is extremely obscure to most people, but by tweaking the question and making it approachable, it was rated well enough to earn that mini-badge. Looking back at it, that question had an accuracy rate of 84%, so a topic being obscure doesn't mean it has to be difficult.

Reply #74. May 03 18, 4:31 PM
agony


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Yeah, I see the challenge of writing for the specific nouns as not "Can I write a question about Hu Zhengyan?' because of course I can - two minutes at wikipedia will give me something. It's "Can I write a question about Hu Zhengyan that will accessible and interesting to the players?"

I should probably add at this point that I've been also seeing some great questions, and a lot more variety than I'm used to. So keep it up!

Reply #75. May 03 18, 4:43 PM
kyleisalive


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I agree with this. I think my point is that there are a lot of authors who are grabbing onto the challenge here and excelling. It's a challenge to complete them, but this isn't about quantity.

Reply #76. May 03 18, 7:38 PM
spanishliz


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Have submitted 'pigeon photography' to Humanities (though it might belong in Hobbies...) and 'fencing' to Celebrities.

Reply #77. May 03 18, 9:27 PM
FatherSteve star


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How do pigeons work the camera when their little fingers are all covered in feathers?

Reply #78. May 03 18, 10:21 PM
Fifiona81


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They adjust the apeckture with their beaks and then take the picture by nodding their heads against the button.

Reply #79. May 04 18, 3:21 AM
looney_tunes


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Operant conditioning can produce miracles.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pigeons+playing+ping+pong&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

Reply #80. May 04 18, 4:08 AM


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