Subject: The Grand National
Posted by: shipyardbernie
Date: Apr 02 09
The biggest horse race in the world jumps off on Saturday at Aintree race course in Liverpool and all the once a year punters will be filling the bookies to bursting point. I have picked Black Apalachi, Butler's Cabin and Cornish Sett up to now, using scientific methods of course, I would like to see the weird and wonderful ways you pick yours and what you have come up with.
Posted by: shipyardbernie
Date: Apr 02 09
The biggest horse race in the world jumps off on Saturday at Aintree race course in Liverpool and all the once a year punters will be filling the bookies to bursting point. I have picked Black Apalachi, Butler's Cabin and Cornish Sett up to now, using scientific methods of course, I would like to see the weird and wonderful ways you pick yours and what you have come up with.
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supersal1 
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I don't bet, am literally the kiss of death when I bet on the National, and I like horses. Previously it was on daft things like the names or the jockey's colours, nothing very scientific! Reply #1. Apr 02 09, 2:45 PM |
Anton
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The biggest horse race in the world is The Kentucky Derby. Reply #2. Apr 02 09, 3:10 PM |
MarchHare007
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The Richest is the Dubai Cup which pays $6 million to the winner. Anton, The Kentucky Derby is the Biggest in the US but the Grand National is a steeplechase, And the biggest! :) As far as choosing winners - I Used to follow parentage and only bet on Our Melbourne Cup, could always have a horse in the first three home so a trifecta was the order of the day! - but as the 'lines' became much harder to follow I've dropped that method. If I'm at the track I like to wander the field and look at the horses running - and can often see a horse that will pay. It's a good game - choose a horse in each race (not necessarily bet on it) and see how it runs. Occasionally I've been sorry I Didn't put money on it! Sometimes I choose by trainer/jockey combinations. As for choosing The Winner? It's Always bound to be a horse! :D Reply #3. Apr 02 09, 3:59 PM |
lesley153
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I wouldn't normally give it a thought, and I've never been inside a bookie's - my loss - but I have joined in sweepstakes. Wherever I've worked, someone has put the names onto bits of paper and put them in a hat. You handed over your half a crown, or your pound, or whatever it was at the time, and you picked a name out of the hat. I can't remember ever winning anything, which is OK, because I wouldn't have anyway. A man I know has devoted a whole bedroom to the study of form. He has books, magazines, and a computer full of horsey information. He has got a proper job. Just not many friends. Reply #4. Apr 02 09, 4:00 PM |
| Anton
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the derby is world known. I have never heard of this one being talked about. Reply #5. Apr 02 09, 4:00 PM |
| lesley153
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That would be a good reason for starting up a separate thread about the Kentucky Derby. (The Derby is a British race.) Reply #6. Apr 02 09, 4:18 PM |
| supersal1
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"National Velvet"? Load of old codswallop but it does feature the National. I think the English Grand National is probably the most famous National Hunt Race in the world. Definitely not one for wimps, and that includes the spectators. I would have loved to have had my pocket money on this one in 1967 - perhaps not steeplechasing's finest hour though! http://www.grand-national-world.co.uk/gnw/the_race/tales/foinavon.html Reply #7. Apr 02 09, 4:19 PM |
shipyardbernie
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Ok AntonLaVey the Kentucky Derby is a big race, every one has a big race, it's not about that, it's about the way people pick their horses, a bit of fun, you know. Thanks MarchHare007 for the info and pointing out it was a steeple chase, thats over the jumps in case anyone asks where the church is and lesley can you get a tip of that guy with racing form for wallpaper, he might give us the winner. Reply #8. Apr 02 09, 4:23 PM |
| lesley153
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Bernie, I'd love to if I thought it would help, but he never answers the door or the phone, because, he says, it won't be for him: and he's right, it never is. And he still trots out to the same old job every day, which I don't think he'd do if he were rich. So I hope you won't mind if I try not to disturb him from the room, where he is, in fact, indistinguishable from the wallpaper. Reply #9. Apr 02 09, 4:37 PM |
| supersal1
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I know a couple of people who are form 'experts'. They tend to be quite voluble about their winnings, less so about their losses! Reply #10. Apr 02 09, 4:39 PM |
| lesley153
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Jack Duckworth lives and breathes. :) Reply #11. Apr 02 09, 4:40 PM |
| MarchHare007
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"A man I know has devoted a whole bedroom to the study of form. He has books, magazines, and a computer full of horsey information. He has got a proper job. Just not many friends." Lesley, does he actually manage anything positive with all his data - or does it just keep him off the streets? ;) Reply #12. Apr 02 09, 4:41 PM |
| honeybee4
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I have never bet on a horse race but I have watched them. Here in the states when Lafitt Pincay would race I would always pick him, instead of looking at what horse he was riding. Reply #13. Apr 02 09, 4:56 PM |
| MarchHare007
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Okay Bernie! I've 'checked the form' and I discounted a few Babies and a few Oldies and a few Heavyweights and some that have no idea what 4 miles Looks Like and I like Comply or Die, Snowy Morning and Silver Birch with Zabenz 'cause I like the look of him. Reply #14. Apr 02 09, 4:58 PM |
| shipyardbernie
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Thanks Stew, at last someone has come up with a few selections I will have a look at them, so you fancy last years winner again, I wonder, another Red Rum. Reply #15. Apr 02 09, 5:11 PM |
cyberhen
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I usually do quite well with the Grand National. My tips are :- 1.The horse should be at least 8 years old. 2.It should have already won a race this season of at least 3 miles. The Grand National is 4 1/2 miles and has 30 fences/ ditches, so the horse must have proven stamina. 3.It should not be carrying too much weight - preferably a maximum of about 11st 4lb. 4. The nearest equivalent in fences is Haydock park, so a horse that has won a long distance race at Haydock which meets the other criteria stands a good chance. Reply #16. Apr 02 09, 5:17 PM |
| cyberhen
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Anton, I can educate you about the Grand National, I know just about as much info on the race as you do about baseball lol. Reply #17. Apr 02 09, 5:19 PM |
| MarchHare007
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After watching Makybe Diva make history here with HER THREE Melbourne Cup Wins - I like to give 'run befores' a look. Admittedly racing on the flat Can be less perilous! www.racingmuseum.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=169 - Reply #18. Apr 02 09, 5:23 PM |
| cyberhen
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Here's a few horses that might be interesting - Rambling Minster, Killbegan Blade, Darkness, Brooklyn Brownie & Companero. Reply #19. Apr 02 09, 5:28 PM |
| MarchHare007
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Here's a question - with a Jump Start are the horses assigned a specific order left to right do they Just Line Up? Reply #20. Apr 02 09, 5:35 PM |
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