Subject: Family History Blog
Posted by: mpkitty
Date: Jun 17 18
I believe all should keep their family history alive, if you know it. If you don't, your experiences are important to keep alive. Can we share some?
I'll start...
Posted by: mpkitty
Date: Jun 17 18
I believe all should keep their family history alive, if you know it. If you don't, your experiences are important to keep alive. Can we share some?
I'll start...
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daver852 
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It's no big deal. For example, EVERYBODY is a descendant of King Edward III. Everybody. Just a matter of proving it. You go back a certain number of generations, and you have more ancestors than people who were living at the time. Reply #121. Aug 31 18, 2:38 PM |
terraorca
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I read that 8% of the current world population is a descendant of Genghis Khan. Reply #122. Sep 03 18, 2:28 AM |
sadwings
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Must be a fact if you read it somewhere. No, I'm only clowning. Like I'm so sure something like that could even be determined accurately. 8 out of every 100 people? Sure, I'll buy into that. NOT! :-p Reply #123. Sep 03 18, 3:54 AM |
flopsymopsy
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If you are British (like me) and were born in the 1970s (unlike me) the odds that you are not a direct descendant of Edward III are so small they've been calculated at 0.0000000000000000000000000001. On top of that, every European - every single one - is a descendant of Charlemagne. If you're English, it's very likely that you can also prove descent from the High King of Ireland, Brian Boru. In fact it's more likely that the English can prove that than the Irish, simply because of the way records were kept, or weren't kept. Genghis Khan's DNA has been estimated as appearing in 16 million people alive today. A genetic study of 5000 men in a particular area in Asia, including Mongolia, showed that they shared eleven Y chromosomes; in other words, they had 11 male ancestors in common. One of those ancestors was Genghis Khan and simple arithmetic gives him an 8% share of the Asian population in the area - which may not be completely accurate but near enough. Reply #124. Sep 03 18, 5:22 AM |
| sadwings
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Wow, flopsy, you are right on top of things, aren't you? :-) So "8% of the Asian population in the area" and not world population. Probably a tad little bit of difference there for sure. This thing with all Europeans being a descendant of Charlemagne is something I'm having a hard time understanding. I mean, what about all the people who have immigrated to Europe over the centuries who are not from that line? Reply #125. Sep 03 18, 9:05 AM |
| terraorca
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I misread. My bad. The new worldwide number is 00.5%, that computes to 1 out of every 200 men. Reply #126. Sep 03 18, 10:04 AM |
MiraJane
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Oh no. I've known that one of my mother's ancestors was an English Lord something or other when he wandered across the pond as an army officer in the late 1600s. He decided to stay here & food old King George the III gave him a land grant. The actual grant is gathering dust in a museum in Massachusetts. It's really cool to see it :) I'd hear the "everyone is related to King Edward III" before. But ... But my mothers family has always there's no Irish in our background. Now I learn from Miss F. Mopsy that isn't true! Reply #127. Sep 04 18, 3:24 AM |
mpkitty
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Reply #128. Sep 04 18, 9:18 PM |
| MiraJane
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We don't have it, Stephanie. It's in a museum. Given the massive amount of descendants of that long ago British officer, descendants that are living on several continents now and spread across North America, it's doubtful very many of us would get a chance to see the document. It is also extremely questionable that family members from long ago would have been able to keep the actual land grant in archival conditions over the centuries as they moved across America. The land grant tells more about the history of the area the grant is for than the history of my family. Almost every historical society, club, association, or library or large municipality here in the East (well, except those Gen. Sherman marched through) has a land grant on display. They are beautiful documents to behold. That's where they belong - on display for people to look at and learn from, not in some family's ancient scrapbook. On a side note, title searches here can be interesting to read when the land can be traced back to land grants from England or the Netherlands. Sometimes the title will show the original owners of the land as a Native American, or First Nation chief. It will read as the land being conveyed by treaty or as a gift. I've always wondered what title reports read when the land was stolen by the American government from the Cherokee, Seminole, and other native Nations. Reply #129. Sep 05 18, 2:08 AM |
| terraorca
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Or from Japanese Americans as WWII was beginning and ongoing. Reply #130. Sep 05 18, 2:21 AM |
Mixamatosis
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I've been thinking about this and I think the reason that so many living people can be traced back to certain famous Kings/Queens/rulers, may be that these ancestors had a lot of children both legitimate and illegitimate and because they came from the wealthier part of society, they had a greater chance of living to produce heirs who lived to produce heirs who live to etc. Is there a flaw in this logic? I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will tell me. Reply #131. Sep 05 18, 4:02 AM |
| Mixamatosis
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It also depends on record keeping and records of rulers, their ancestors and descendants, were kept in ways that records of other people were not. Reply #132. Sep 05 18, 4:10 AM |
| terraorca
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I've got to believe that Genghis Khan kept little or no records of all the children that he fathered. Reply #133. Sep 05 18, 9:23 AM |
| Mixamatosis
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terraorca. He had 500 wives it seems. The names of 4 sons and 6 daughters are known. DNA is probably the main factor in proving descent from him or his descendants. Reply #134. Sep 05 18, 12:22 PM |
| sadwings
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So he may have even had more women than those NBA players, ay? I bet Chaka Kahn is probably one of his descendants, and wasn't there a Kahn in one or more of those Star Wars movies? Like The Wrath of Kahn or something? I bet he is one of them, too. Reply #135. Sep 05 18, 3:20 PM |
| Mixamatosis
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Could be that the Mayor of London is a descendant - Sadiq Khan. Seriously Khan is quite a common name in Asia. There are 12 million Khans in Pakistan and 24 million Khan's worldwide and they say it's a name of Mongolian origin, so perhaps they are descendant of his family. Reply #136. Sep 05 18, 4:21 PM |
| sadwings
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Wow, that is astounding. I had no idea there were that many. But to assume that every single one came from the same guy? That would be like every Smith or every Jones coming from the same person. Or every Mixamatosis. I wonder how many Mixamatosises there are in the world, Mix? :-p Reply #137. Sep 05 18, 5:25 PM |
UmberWunFayun
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It's really not that unfathomable. Some people believe that 100% of humans are descended from one guy without a surname, after all; you know the one, lived in a garden....... Here's an example of traceable genealogy for comparison: all thoroughbred horses, every single one that has ever existed, millions of them worldwide, are descended from three stallions imported from Arabia (The Darley Arabian, The Godolphin Arabian, and The Byerley Turk). Most racing stables, and lots of other horse fans, hang a copy of a painting of The Three Arabs, as they're known, in homage to their own horses' common ancestry. As numbers increase, bloodlines diversify, but that doesn't alter the fact that they're all related to those three individuals if you go back far enough. And with purebred horses, unlike humans, there are solid records to evidence that, going right back to the start. Reply #138. Sep 05 18, 11:50 PM |
| sadwings
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Wow, that is pretty cool and interesting information, Jo. I suppose that people would have to be no different than animals in that regard. Reply #139. Sep 06 18, 12:17 AM |
namrewsna
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Not to be "that guy"... But I believe the correct plural is Mixamatosi Or you could just take the Highlander approach and say there can be only one! ;) Reply #140. Sep 06 18, 3:49 AM |
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