Subject: MUSIC VERSUS
Posted by: Skyflyerjen
Date: May 01 18
Ding ding! Step into the ring if you'd like and discuss artists/bands VS other artists/bands. Anything goes!
Posted by: Skyflyerjen
Date: May 01 18
Ding ding! Step into the ring if you'd like and discuss artists/bands VS other artists/bands. Anything goes!
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sectant
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Is Gilmore Girls the show where the mother looked younger than the daughter? Reply #121. Jun 14 18, 7:31 AM |
UmberWunFayun 
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Haha, the mother was a stunner and the daughter was a spoilt brat, but for some reason, everyone loved her anyway. It's actually a good show because there's an awful lot of really quirky small town weirdness going on. The daughter's best friend, who was supposed to be 15-16 at the beginning, was played by a 27 year old. And the mother's best friend was played by Melissa McCarthy, before she had everyone in hysterics in movies like Bridesmaids, Spy, and The Heat. Kirk was the biggest freak. Everyone should have a Kirk in their lives. Reply #122. Jun 14 18, 7:49 AM |
Skyflyerjen
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Lauren Graham played the mom in GIlmore Girls. Never saw the show but I watched her win in her episode of "Celebrity Poker Showdown" some 15 years ago, it was really cool. Reply #123. Jun 14 18, 9:57 AM |
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So it's Lauren Graham huh? I think she was in the speed dial episode of Seinfeld. Is the music duel still on? How about two contenders for worst song ever written in the past 25 or whatever years?...... Achy Breaky Heart by Billy Ray Miley's Dad and that Mambo Number 5 or whatever it's called by The Great Big Globules Of Annoyance or whoever sang it? Reply #124. Jun 14 18, 2:28 PM |
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"The Millenium"! I love Kramer playing as Pennypacker, eating those chips in that store... good episode. Ooh I like that idea! I'll need to come up with a list myself! For yours... yikes... if I had to pick the worst of those two it would be the wretched Achy Breaky Heart. Ugh. Reply #125. Jun 14 18, 3:05 PM |
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Oh, god, Mambo Number 5, definitely. Country and Western style is meant to be a bit tongue in cheek, I think. Reply #126. Jun 14 18, 3:05 PM |
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Saddest thing I ever saw....In the mid 90's I was at a party where non stop music was being played and nobody was dancing. And then Achy Breaky came on and 27,000 people got on the dance floor. I wept. A tragedy of epic proportions. I remember thinking what Elaine said in a Seinfeld episode: "I gotta get some new friends!" Reply #127. Jun 14 18, 3:33 PM |
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Jen, just in case you take me literally, I didn't really weep and there were far less than 27,000 people. The point is so many people like the truly awful stuff while so many great songs and albums are never listened to by the same people because all they can appreciate is a simple, repetitive, bland lack of depth. Even the Beatles early stuff had an interesting chord change or two. Another example is Whitney Houston's horrendously awful version of I Will Always Love You. Compare that to the Dolly Parton recording which is restrained and gorgeous, and you'll see what I mean. And I'm sure the vast majority of people, if not all, who bought the Houston version, didn't even know it was a cover. Reply #128. Jun 14 18, 8:10 PM |
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Your discussions about Bon Jovi have miraculously resulted in the breaking news that they're playing here in Adelaide in December. Could you start discussing Smashing Pumpkins, The Cure and Suzanne Vega so that same transference of thoughts from you to them will result in all three touring Australia. Well done. Reply #129. Jun 15 18, 3:00 AM |
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I think 27,000 people got up to dance to Achy Breaky Heart because there is a line dance for that song, and everyone, especially gives, just LOVE to line dance! Sebastian Bach, my 6'7' Viking, is going to be in Denver this summer, and I'm not... How will this ever be fair or right or good? I have to move back! I just have to... Reply #130. Jun 15 18, 4:37 AM |
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I knew Whitney did the cover. I watched "The Bodyguard" which is a great soundtrack, by the way. Add it to my list of Perfect Albums. Sorry, but I like Whitney's cover better. Have you seen the video for it? Let me find it... Good lord, she sings the first how many bars of this song acapella? Dolly is great, and I don't think anyone else should EVER sing "Jolene" but even Dolly loves this cover better than her own! And how about that great transition where she changes keys and is suddenly out in the snow? Everything about this is great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWTaaS7LdU Reply #131. Jun 15 18, 8:40 AM |
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And she goes up three octaves at the end! Sectant, in all the dance scenes in that video, in the movie, they end up in some dive country bar, and someone pops a quarter in the jukebox, and she laughs and thinks this song is so corny. I think he tells her who it is, and that it's a beautiful, classic song, and they end up dancing to it in the dive bar with the linoleum on the floor, as I recall. And she sings it at the end of the film, or maybe only on the soundtrack. I can't remember. The soundtrack to "The Preacher's Wife" with Whitney, Courtney B. Vance and Denzel is also great. Things happened during the recording and filming of that, that Penny Marshall wasn't expecting, but she said to keep those cameras rolling, no matter what, and she could edit it later. Whitney had to explain to her that when the Spirit moves, you can't really stop it. Reply #132. Jun 15 18, 8:51 AM |
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This is a nice contrast, with Dolly singing with Carrie Underwood. You can see and hear Carrie's heart break just a little bit when Dolly mentions Kristen Chenoweth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRPVcWKrqy0 Reply #133. Jun 15 18, 8:57 AM |
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Here is Dolly singing "Jolene" -- her wigs have gotten much better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aU5gafxI84 And here is Miley Cyrus, her honest-to-God God-Daughter, singing it. Which version do you like better? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw I'm not only giving Miley a big old pass, I like her version better. She really did sing and record a pile of songs out in her backyard. In one of them, her neighbor yells over the fence at how great it all sounds! Reply #134. Jun 15 18, 9:11 AM |
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Some of the worst-written songs: Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice Barbie Girl by Aqua Thong Song by Sisqo Baby by Justin Bieber Budapest by George Ezra Shut U* and Dance by Walk the Moon (sorry, it won't let me write that out... it says "up") You’re the One That I Want by Grease (movie) Friday by Rebecca Black Of course, “worst” is subjective. Sectant… don’t worry, I didn’t think you literally wept or that you were with 27,000 people… maybe 25,000 but never 27,000! (haha) Re: I Will Always Love You, I think sectant and Elle both have valid points. Dolly’s got the original, and to me that counts for something. Whitney’s got the more popular version, which to me means little if nothing. I don’t care how popular a song is, only how good it is. I’ve noticed some covers sound a lot like the originals, which is fine. Sometimes they’re pretty different, TOO different, for my taste. What I like best are covers that embrace the message of the song while making it their own. Winner: Whitney. Sorry, sectant! Just my opinion. An example of a horrible cover to me would be “These Boots Were Made for Walking” by Jessica Simpson (originally Nancy Sinatra). An excellent cover I have in mind would be “Simple Man” by Shinedown (originally Lynyrd Skynyrd). Or “Fly Like an Eagle” by Seal (originally by Steve Miller Band). Any other good/bad covers you can think of? Reply #135. Jun 15 18, 1:12 PM |
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I've got nothing against Miley Cyrus, it's got to be hard being a teenager in the spotlight all the time, but I vote Dolly. I've always loved that song, since I was a kid, and I'll always love the way Dolly sings it. Miley sounds like she's singing a song, and doing a good job. Dolly sounds like she's actually reliving that conversation with her man's mistress, trying to sound calm and reasonable but crying inside. Reply #136. Jun 15 18, 1:40 PM |
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Don't mean to sound like their agent, or anything, but Disturbed do the best covers, at least one on every album. The best is Simon & Garfunkel's Sound Of Silence. It's totally amazing. The crescendo at the end that tails off into softness... beautiful. https://youtu.be/u9Dg-g7t2l4 Reply #137. Jun 15 18, 1:46 PM |
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They also do a great version of 'Shout' by Tears for Fears and 'Land of Confusion' by Genesis. Reply #138. Jun 15 18, 1:56 PM |
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We shall agree to disagree on Whitney but I still maintain it is an assault on the eardrums. And once again, dance and song are two separate things. You can dance to a million songs, it doesn't make them good. Put it this way...when Dolly sings it, she sounds genuine. When Whitney sings it, it sounds phoney. And the windows crack, the walls collapse, and the birds migrate to a quieter, less high pitched country. Nancy and Boots...the original is always the best in this case. Check out Some Velvet Morning, the duet she did with Lee Hazelwood. Weird and wonderful. Reply #139. Jun 15 18, 3:32 PM |
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Nancy and Boots for me, too. Dolly said when she wrote "Jolene," she had seen a girl with auburn hair who was so breathtaking, she wondered what it would be like... Well, here. This is from an interview: "According to Parton, the song was inspired by a red-headed bank clerk who flirted with her husband Carl Dean at his local bank branch around the time they were newly married. In an interview, she also revealed that Jolene's name and appearance are based on that of a young fan who came on stage for her autograph." Jolene must have really made an impression! There is even "the fan" who insists she is the inspiration for the song, although she was 7 when she met Dolly, so I don't know there, Jolene. I don't think I would be threatened by a 7-year-old, unless your goal was to steam my popcorn! "Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene! Please don't take it, just because you can..." I may write a new version of "Jolene" over in our Fake Songs thread, but first, I have to sleep before I pass out. But I think I am inspired! Reply #140. Jun 15 18, 11:13 PM |
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