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Subject: Nasty Goes To The Movies

Posted by: nasty_liar
Date: Nov 29 12

What it says up there

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Do I need to add "Justified" to my list of TV series I missed and could now download and binge-watch?

Mark, remember telling me "Sons Of Anarchy" gave you terrible nightmares? They're only giving me a few at a time, and I hope I can grab the entire series, but so far, the only thing it's really done is make me laugh, actually laugh out loud, when they were in Ireland, complete with the lilting Irish jig added to the theme song. They're back home now, where they rightfully belong, complete with Prince Charming.

I did, however, grab every episode of "Six Feet Under" and I binge-watched that while every other "thing" I had was down for the count. Now that series was SO depressing, and it did give me nightmares, especially the very last episode. I'm still trying to recover from that, and if I could unwatch all of it, I think I would.

Much like "LOST," that seemed like a series where the writer(s) didn't think it would take off, and when it did, he/she/they had no clue where to go with it, so they just went off the rails on a crazy train.

Have you seen "Six Feet Under," and did you have a similar reaction? Maybe I shouldn't have watched 5 seasons all at once, but I don't think it would have mattered much.

I grabbed and binge-watched "Game Of Thrones" a couple of years ago when I was really sick and couldn't do much of anything else, and it was oddly soothing. Now, with every new season, I watch all of it again before the new season starts and I still find it relaxing, and that's a pretty stressful series.

And I did the same thing, or as much as I could, with "The Walking Dead" when they did a marathon and I was in a temporary house before I got into the one I'm in now, permanently, and that series doesn't wig me out, at all, other than the mid-season finale. I went back about 4-5 episodes to see if I could figure out just when "that" happened, and I did find it, just like one of the writers said I would, but never did I see that coming.

Nasty, forgive me, I didn't mean to take up so much of your blog. And I'm really happy you're back and talking about all of this again.

Have any of you seen the shows I've mentioned?

(And those Westerns? I watch them, now, on The Western Channel, which is a must, I think. How the heck do you think I know all about Marcus, Lucas, and Dorkus? And all the theme songs are incredible.)


Reply #241. Jan 14 18, 5:23 PM
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You don't have to be an old timer like Mark and myself to enjoy and be familiar with the older movies, brm. Just watch those channels that show the older stuff now and then.

Yeah, I would go for a John Wayne/Clint Eastwood marathon just any day of the week, Mark. You said it right there. Every once in a great while this one movie channel I have will do a "Squint With Clint" week where they play Eastwood movies during the evening hours all week long. Squint with Clint. Ha! I love that!

Yeah, brm, you sound like you know your westerns pretty good, partner. Josey Wales happens to literally be my favorite movie of all time, no question about it. We three amigos are gonna have to saddle up and ride the dusty trail like this more often. In fact, there is a particular Clint Eastwood western that I would like for all three of us to take a close look at and I would like to know what you guys think about a few things. However, that will have to wait a little later when I have more time to ride the dusty trail. Maybe even Elle could come along iffen she knows how to ride. We may be riding well into the night and we will need a good woman along who will make our beans and coffee.

Okay, Elle, don't get me started on Dorkus again! :-p

You let our brother outta that jailhouse, Dorkus! You got 30 seconds or were comin' in after him!

Don't be a fool, Murdock! I'm DORKUS! Remember? The man who NEVER MISSES? You and your men just ride on before all of you wind up like all the others!

Okay, enuff already! Elle, you'll have yourself one fantastic show to binge watch if you get hold of all those Justified episodes, but be careful - ol' Sebastian Bach just might not be your studly hero any more after you see ol' Raylan Givens in action. Ol' Raylan is one tough whiskey - drinkin' gun - slingin' outlaw with a badge, and he is tall and thin and pretty studly like ol' Sebastian.

Okay, you guys, here's the deal. I've got some Duels and a few other things to tend to right now, but when I get back we will all saddle up and ride the dusty trail and explore this one particular Eastwood western and then shortly after we make camp and have our fill of beans and biscuits and coffee, I'll let you guys in on a little secret and sing the words to the theme song of Bonanza. Not many people know that song actually has words but it does. Seems like I heard somewhere that it really does have words to it, but the words I'm talking about are ones that I came up with myself. :-p

Okay, gotta ride...............

Reply #242. Jan 15 18, 12:28 AM
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Elle,

Perhaps you have me confused with some other movie/tv junkie. I did not tell you that "Sons of Anarchy" gave me nightmares, I've watched it a few times, but I don't remember ever commenting on it.
I've never watched "Lost" or "Six Feet Under".
I have watched the first couple of seasons of "Game of Thrones" as well as read the first three books, and watched most of the episodes of "Breaking Bad".
Speaking of Westerns and old westerns at that, I think that I'll sign off with a few bars of ....Happy Trails

Some trails are happy ones
Others are blue
It's the way you ride the trail that counts
Here's a happy one for you

Happy Trails to you
Until we meet again
Happy Trails to you
Keep smiling until then....
.

Reply #243. Jan 15 18, 12:52 AM
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That was me who told you about the nightmares, Elle. I'm not certain it was because of Sons, but I had been having them for quite a long time and then they just suddenly stopped when the last season ended. Wait until you see the "eyeball" episode! I think that was in the last season.

Okay, you guys ready to ride? Giddyup, horsey! We'll all just mosey on over to this friendly little town by the name of Lago. brm and Mark, you guys know exactly what movie I'm talking about, don't you? That's right - High Plains Drifter. Just exactly who is Clint's character in this film and where does he come from? Every theory I have ever I come up with gets blown out of the water at some point or other during the film, but I think the movie was quite intentionally made that way. Even though it is obviously fiction, I feel that even fiction has to adhere to some kind of logical pattern or makeup, or else it becomes science fiction in my opinion. I am a man of logic and reason, and I feel that there is a sound, logical explanation for every last thing that ever happens or ever will happen. There has to be, even if it involves the supernatural or things that simply exist outside the human realm.

Anyway, some people - including an FT member who authored a quiz on western movies - have suggested that Mr. Eastwood's character is the ghost of Jim Duncan, the sheriff who was brutally murdered in the streets of Lago. The very tail end of the movie almost confirms that when the little guy who is carving the name on Jim Duncan's tombstone says, "I never did know your name," and Clint's character says "Yes you do" before he rides off, and the camera pans over to the tombstone with "Jim Duncan" on it. Even so, there are a couple of things that shoot holes in that theory.

First of all, why would a ghost need to eat and sleep? Secondly, if Clint's character was a ghost, why would he slip down into his bathwater when the woman he raped in the barn was trying to shoot him?

I have also thought of the possibility that he is an avenging angel manifested by none other than God himself and sent to Lago on a mission to get revenge on the men who murdered Duncan. However, the new sheriff is practically begging Clint's character to help them, but Clint wants no part of it and is in the process of walking away from the whole thing when the sheriff offered him anything he wanted. Only then does Clint's character take interest. Why would an angel take such a big interest in worldly, material things? Of course, there is also the sleeping and eating thing once again.

So let's say that the character really is a flesh and blood human being. How could he possibly have had visions of Duncan being murdered in his dreams?

Anyway, quite an interesting film that there is no way I would ever get tired of watching. This is getting pretty long and I still have to sing my smash hit Bonanza song.

I don't mind admitting that I stole the first line of this song from a Cheers episode when some guy sang it in the bar, and it turned out that this one line is like 3/4 of the whole song, so I didn't put a lot of work into this at all! :-p

Anyway, have you guys got that Bonanza theme going in your heads? My goofy version of it goes like this......


We've got a right to pick a little fight, Bonanzaaaa
We've got a right to pick a little fight and shoot off all our guns
We've got a right to pick a little fight, Bonanzaaaa
We've got a right to pick a little fight and have some cowboy fun

Adam, Hoss and Little Joe will f--- up the whole town :-)

We've got a right to pick a little fight, Bonanzaaaa
We've got a right to pick a little fight and shoot off all our guns
The Cartwriiiiiiiights
Can't loooooooooooze!

Thank you, thank you so much! Okay, gang let's get some sleep. Got an early ride back into town in the morning......




Reply #244. Jan 15 18, 4:10 AM
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Lots to catch up on here.

Westerns aren't really my go to genre, but I did enjoy some as a kid. My dad is a big western fan and he'd be watching 'Gunfight at the O.K. Corral' or 'The Magnificent Seven' and many more.

One that hasn't been mentioned is Dances with Wolves, excellent movie. It is beautifully shot and very soulful, I love that.

Tv series, I don't spend the time watching them really. Occasionally I get hooked on one. So most of your list, Elle, I haven't seen. I love Game of Thrones though, I had read the books first although it has irritatingly gone ahead of the books now!

I just finished watching 'Better call saul' season 3. I love that show. I might even enjoy it more than Breaking Bad actually. Although that was very good.

I am watching Star Trek: Discovery. It's actually not too bad! Much better than the Star Trek Into Darkness which is an abomination. I didn't go back to the cinema to see Star Trek: Beyond.... I will watch it at some point though.

Reply #245. Jan 15 18, 4:12 AM

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Ok, let's start catching up.

Rogue One: a Star Wars Story (2016)

The daughter of an Imperial scientist joins the Rebel Alliance in a risky move to steal the Death Star plans.

Felicity Jones
Diego Luna
Alan Tudyk
Donnie Yen
Forest Whitaker

This movie splits me. The Star Wars fan in me loved it. When I say Star Wars fan I have read much of the books that we describe as the expanded universe as well as the films, some comics, clone wars cartoon... so I'm very well versed in Star Wars lore. Unfortunately the movie fan in me knows that the only reason I enjoyed it so much is because I'm a fan.

So put simply, if you are not into Star Wars, do not watch this movie as it will come across as a depressing and ridiculously contrived nonsense with characters that are very difficult to care anything about.

And with my last sentence I sum up some of the troubles with this movie. The characters are fairly broadly painted and to me there is very little of the charm of the original Star Wars. In fact this movie is so serious and somber that it almost seems unbelievable that it was made.

It takes place immediately prior to Star Wars IV: a New Hope. When I say immediately before, the end of this film leads directly into the beginning shots of New Hope. So why is it necessary to fill every blank in for the viewer? Are we stupid? Yes, probably... but by doing that they have to make the climax quite forced. A bit like the unnecessary end parts to Episode 3 where every character has to be seen to get into the position that they start A New Hope in. Also, once you realise what is happening and where it is leading (having seen A New Hope) then it becomes obvious how it will end and the tension drops out of the climax. Perhaps that is the only thing that could be said about this movie for a first time Star Wars watcher! They wouldn't guess the ending, but I think those people would leave the cinema very depressed!

The characters are largely forgettable. Felicity Jones does a fine job, as does Diego Luna but they merely move from action scene to action scene. At least their motivations are clearly explained so that we can understand what they are thinking. The droid K-2SO voiced by Alan Tudyk steaks the show for me. Providing all of the movies only humorous moments and the fact that I felt more emotion when this droid faced peril says a lot about how this movie fails to draw you in to the rest of the cast. Partly because there turns out to be so many of them!

Weird and pointless small role for Forest Whitaker. One note villain in Krennic. Some were super impressed by the scene involving Darth Vader. I wasn't, it smacked of what a lot of these new Disney movies do.... fan service. Unneccesary to see Darth Vader in this movie, and totally unnecessary to see him doing what he does.

So now I've tried to tear this down for its failings I will reiterate that I really liked it as an addition to the Star Wars story and enjoyed watching it as a kind of tragedy story. I'd give it 8/10 as a Star Wars piece but probably much lower as a movie on its own merits.

Reply #246. Jan 15 18, 5:16 AM

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Kevin,

Clint's character aka. The Stranger, wasn't he the Town Sheriff at one time, then was gunned down, thought to be dead only to resurface as the stranger exacting a toll on every citizen of Lago?. Paint the town red to welcome the gunslingers, set up a feast as well, equip all the citizens to defend themselves. How'd that work out?

nasty

Sorry we hijacked your blog. I haven't watched a new Star Wars for the last couple. I remember standing in line for the original Star Wars premiere way back when and cheering during the showing, as we all were.

Elle,

Justified was a ritual for me, I would watch it three or four times the week that each new episode appeared. Very enjoyable for me.
I miss Longmire as well. I have heard that it is being shown on Netflix, with new episodes being produced as we speak.

terraorca
Mark

Reply #247. Jan 15 18, 1:05 PM
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World News: Blog HIJACKED in Fun Trivia land! President has no choice but to call in the Cobra.

Actually, Mark, the Lago sheriff and The Stranger were not the same person, but yeah, The Stranger did indeed get revenge on the whole town.

Reply #248. Jan 15 18, 1:33 PM
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Kevin,

What evidence do you have that Sheriff Jim Duncan and The Stranger are not the same person?
Perhaps the Sheriff was not killed, just thought to be dead, and only the gravedigger knew for sure that he was still alive. The Sheriff and the gravedigger made a pact not to reveal their secret.

Mark

Reply #249. Jan 15 18, 2:52 PM
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Ah Mark, must have been great to see the original Star Wars films at the time of their release. I'm not old enough...

Reply #250. Jan 16 18, 6:25 PM

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Scarface (1983)

In Miami in 1980, a determined Cuban immigrant takes over a drug cartel and succumbs to greed.

Al Pacino
Michelle Pfeiffer

Written Oliver Stone
Directed Brian De Palma

Say hello to my little friend!

Stumbled across this one last night on TV. Got to love Al Pacino being allowed to go totally OTT. Very 80's movie, did they all have to use the same type of music! Kind of synthesised, electronic sounding? And the clothes?Good stuff in parts here though. A showcase for the greed of an individual or maybe for greed in general. Al Pacino provides some serious Ham and I can't decide whether that is intentional on the actor or directors part or not.

Anyway, great supporting cast. Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, the longest actress name ever, especially is great. Pfeiffer is ok. Love Bauer and Loggia opposite Pacino.

Great script, dialogue between Pacino and the others is great. Good back and forths, maybe cheesy but fits the tone. Had my attention easily anyway so it was doing something right. Paced so nicely too, Tony Montana's story gradually goes where you know it will and then the all out ending delivers what it needs.

As gangster movies go this one is enjoyable. Well worth seeing. Probably not in the top tier of its genre though.

Reply #251. Jan 16 18, 6:41 PM

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The thing is, Scarface was a remake (very, very liberally reinterpreted) of a 1930s gangster movie. It is one of those movies that can be considered a cult classic. That is, it was not that big a hit at the time it was released and was criticized severely for its extreme profanity and violence, but, perhaps in fact *because* of the criticism, it has "legs". The movie is now seen as memorable precisely because it was so over-the-top.

A good part of the fun of watching the movie is seeing Al Pacino ham it up. Several of the actors in the movie went on to appear in Breaking Bad, where they were able to transfer their recognition from that movie to a completely different type of drug dealer gangster story. My favorite scene in Scarface is the "I'm the bad guy" scene in the restaurant where Al Pacino publicly embarrasses Michelle Pfeiffer.

Giorgio Moroder is responsible for the score of Scarface. It is especially memorable to me, because, back in the day, I played Grand Theft Auto III on my PlayStation 2 almost nonstop for weeks, and anyone who has done that and seen Scarface will see the connection. For anyone who hasn't seen the movie, be advised that what people say about it is true. If you have delicate sensibilities, I would advise you not to see it, because, once you have, you can't unsee it. It will stick with you.

Reply #252. Jan 16 18, 7:14 PM
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Hey, Nasty, you would make a really excellent film critic, or probably any kind of journalistic work, actually. Are you involved in that field professionally by any chance?

Mark, it really doesn't make any sense for Duncan and The Stranger to be the same guy. They don't look anything alike and everyone would have recognized him when he first rode into town and they would have been running around spreading the word that sheriff Duncan was back.

There are quite a few similarities between this film and Pale Rider. You know, here's this mysterious stranger that nobody knows anything about who suddenly rides into town from out of nowhere and wreaks havoc on the bad guys. There are a number of Eastwood films that never really disclose certain elements and deliberately leave the viewer wondering and to just decide for themselves what they just saw.

I loved the part in Pale Rider when the Preacher beats the crap out of those guys with a hickory stick. Nothin' like a good piece of hickory. :-p


Reply #253. Jan 17 18, 2:28 AM
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Thanks Kevin that's very nice but I doubt I would be much of a film critic, partly because I am not a good writer! I often read back some of the things I have written and hate the way I describe and explain things. Someone like Brian writes far better in my opinion. Not to labour the point but this is part of the reason that I find writing quizzes so hard. I spend months writing one because I'm never happy with how I gave phrased and what I have done and then I hand it over to an editor and there are still dozens of mistakes!

Anyway, I appreciate the compliment! Since you asked, my background is healthcare. As it happens I am about to be required to write some standard operating procedures and guidelines as part of my current role so maybe I need to practice writing things.

Brian, the restaurant scene was my favourite also. Truly the stand out scene of the movie. I thought I'd let someone else have the chance to mention it though. I know it's from a different era but I was not particularly offended by the profanity or violence. I'll try to do Gangs of New York tonight as I promised ages ago.

Reply #254. Jan 17 18, 9:01 AM

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nasty,

I was not that far removed from WWII(my father was a tank sergeant under Patton), my uncle fought in Korea, and I was lucky enough to receive a high number for Vietnam, so I am accustomed and acclimated to violence on the small screen, yet, given that, the violence in Scarface was over the top, to me, particularly the chainsaw scene. Who would bring a chainsaw to a drug sale? Perhaps a knife or a gun with a silencer would have been more appropriate for the beachfront motel location.

Reply #255. Jan 17 18, 9:20 AM
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Kevin,

I googled High Plains Drifter, Wikipedia and Imdb each showed promise. I chose Wikipedia for our purpose. Please do the same and read the section marked as PLOT. The section marked PRODUCTION tells of the decision regarding the identity of The Stranger. After doing that, let me know what you think about the identity of Sheriff Jim Duncan and The Stranger.

Mark

Reply #256. Jan 17 18, 9:34 AM
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Hi Mark,
Of course, I'm not saying it's like watching a Disney and it is a very over the top violent movie. But compared to some scenes in movies that really freak me out a bit I was fine watching everything in Scarface including the chainsaw scene.

An example of a scene that I hate watching is in Reservoir Dogs when Mr. Blonde... well ...you know if you've seen it.

So that's how I judge violence in films. When watching it myself am I made uncomfortable. In that way I think how we perceive on screen violence is very subjective.

Reply #257. Jan 17 18, 10:18 AM

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nasty,

I'm not saying it made me sick or made me change the channel, or had I seen it at the theatre, made me get up and walk out. I am way too desensitized for that at this stage of my life, seen things that I'd like to unsee. I'm saying that it was unnecessary violence, like I said, who would bring a chain saw to a drug sale at a beachfront motel, not very covert.

Mark

Reply #258. Jan 17 18, 11:12 AM
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A list of actors for the past, that I try not to miss any movies of theirs.

Humphrey Bogart
Gregory Peck
Cary Grant
Spencer Tracy
Jimmy Stewart

Please feel free to tell me if I missed anyone.
Actresses will be in a forthcoming list.

Mark

Reply #259. Jan 17 18, 2:34 PM
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should read 'from the past' NOT 'for the past'.

Reply #260. Jan 17 18, 2:36 PM


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