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Very sad. She died of intestinal obstruction. I find multiple Stanley Kubrick movies interesting. The last movie he completed (I'm excluding AI: Artificial Intelligence here, as he died before filming started, and that movie was completed by Steven Spielberg) was Eyes Wide Shut, one of the weirdest movies I've ever seen, even for Kubrick (and I've seen A Clockwork Orange.) But this movie had a strange attraction for me, as it starred one of my favorite actresses, Nicole Kidman. Yes, it also starred Tom Cruise, but he was OK in the movie as the lead, I think. I like Nicole Kidman for a number of reasons, and one is that she is unafraid to take risks with her movies, playing strange and even disagreeable characters, which many "stars" choose not to do, because they think it might lead to typecasting (a la Johnny Depp, Mr. Weird, especially if Tim Burton is directing). From her earliest appearance in Dead Calm, I have watched her movies. She played Mrs. Coulter in The Golden Compass, and, in one of my favorite roles, a murderous TV reporter who recruits teenagers to kill her husband (Matt Dillon) in To Die For (if you haven't seen that one, it's one deep black comedy.) But back to Eyes Wide Shut. It is interesting that Sydney Pollack, himself a noted director, appeared in Eyes Wide Shut as a corrupt wealthy - I don't know- secret society member? Anyway, as the years have passed, all sorts of conspiracy theories have arisen from that movie. One common one is that Kubrick was killed because he dared to expose the Illuminati (or the Freemasons, or ... whatever.) Leelee Sobieski played the teenage daughter of a costume shop owner who.... Better not get into this in too much detail. I really liked Leelee Sobieski in those days. She's practically disappeared from the radar since. The Illuminati? I kid. But it would be unnerving to wake up one morning with a Mardi Gras mask in your bed. Shostakovich's Jazz Suite Waltz 2 is a catchy song. Shortly afterwards, Cruise and Kidman broke up. More conspiracy? Haha! If you haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut and you think you can handle weirdness, watch it. Of course, once you've seen it, you can't unsee it. Reply #341. Apr 27 18, 11:39 PM |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vXhYAS1Kyp8 Reply #342. Apr 27 18, 11:58 PM |
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I think that Stanley Kubrick is one of those Directors that you either like or not, no in between. I imagine for the most part, I enjoy his movies. He directed two of my favorite post 1960 movies: Spartacus and 2001: A Space Odyssey. He also directed The Shining and Full Metal Jacket, I enjoyed both of those. I really liked Paths of Glory, an anti-war statement movie with WWI as the backdrop, starring Kirk Douglas filmed in 1957. However, Eyes Wide Shut and A Clockwork Orange, to me, were really out there. Reply #343. Apr 28 18, 1:05 AM |
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Reply #344. Apr 28 18, 1:13 AM |
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Reply #345. Apr 29 18, 5:12 PM |
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Great movie. I liked the Minnesota accents, especially Frances McDormand's. A little dark though, but if you don't mind creative uses for a wood chipper, well worth the watch. Reply #346. Apr 29 18, 6:31 PM |
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Once I think of that movie, I can't get the wood chopper scene out of my head. Reply #347. Apr 29 18, 7:22 PM |
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Brian, I think maybe spending two years with Kubrick had something to do with Cruise and Kidman splitting up, but that's just part of my very own conspiracy theory. I also think Kubrick has/had a serious thing for Nicole, so he just kept making that crazy film, "Eyes Wide Shut." She was stunning in every single frame, especially the one where she stood with her back to the window and unzipped that long, long zipper and her dress fell to the floor. And since Kubrick does hundreds (also potentially a conspiracy theory) of takes of everything, I'm sure he did about 2,000 takes of just that one scene. Meanwhile, he had Cruise looking like a complete nut. And wasn't his name something like Dr. Bob? He even gave him a wonky name, to go with his wonky hat and mildly jealous (mildly?) nature. I can't decide if I think "A.I." counts. Didn't Kubrick start it, and then Spielberg finished it? I want to believe that's why it makes zero sense. But I don't like it. And I don't like "Eyes Wide Shut." "Full Metal Jacket" is a masterpiece. Reply #348. May 07 18, 6:52 PM |
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Oh, I forgot "The Shining"! The first one is great. But we already talked about that. I love "Fargo," too, but that's another movie you either love or you just do not. I'll watch Frances McDormand in anything. And I watched something on maybe Discovery about that woodchipper scene, and how that was taken from a real crime. I can't imagine cleaning up that mess. And "To Die For" was based not so loosely on the Pamela Smart alleged murder of her husband, remember? Reply #349. May 07 18, 6:57 PM |
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I enjoy the topic of A.I., but not the movie, so I'm with you on that one. Reply #350. May 07 18, 7:31 PM |
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Speaking of Frances McDormand, has anybody seen "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri?" Reply #351. May 07 18, 7:34 PM |
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Not yet, Mark, but I want to. I did love her acceptance speech. And I'll also watch anything with Woody in it. I really, really need to re-up with Netflix. I just keep forgetting. Have you seen it? Reply #352. May 08 18, 9:51 AM |
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No, but it looks like a movie that I would enjoy. The school semester is over now, I'll have more time. Reply #353. May 08 18, 4:30 PM |
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Reply #354. May 08 18, 4:49 PM |
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I loved the book, "Seven Years In Tibet," and I didn't like the film, with the lovely Brad Pitt, at all, Nasty. I can't recall why, though. Does he attempt an accent he just cannot pull off? There was something so off about it, so I agree with you on that one. I may have to try it again. I know it surprised me that I really did not like it. I like Brad Pitt in almost anything, but not everything. I tried to watch "Snatch" with the subtitles turned on, and there were parts of it where they just said "??????" Now that, I thought was funny, but I didn't like that film! I couldn't understand a word he said. I want to see the "Billboards" film too, Mark, but I know it's not a happy film. Which is fine, as long as I'm braced for it. I want to see "The Shape Of Water," too. And "A Quiet Place," which also looks disturbing, but intense. And I love Emily Blunt. But... I liked the book, "The Girl On The Train," and then wasn't wild about the film, even with Emily Blunt. And speaking of Emily Blunt, Nasty, did we talk about the film "Looper" in here? It seems to me we did. Have you guys seen that one? I wasn't sure about it the first time, and then I watched it again and loved it. And I watched it again recently and really loved it. Reply #355. May 08 18, 5:10 PM |
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I believe Tom Cruise's character's name in Eyes Wide Shut was Dr. Bill Harford. His character was very money-centric, and in commentary on the movie I've read, he is referred to as "Dollar Bill". The movie is based on a book Traumnovelle (Dream Story), by an Austrian writer from 1926. Obviously, Kubrick made many changes to the basic story in adapting it to a 1999 New York City setting. Kubrick's involvement in AI was entirely preproduction, story outline, some early screenplay drafts, etc. Kubrick died before any filming on the movie began, so it is essentially Spielberg's movie, although in interviews Spielberg said that he tried to stay faithful to Kubrick's original vision for the movie, but there is no way now of independently determining what that was, just opinions back and forth on the issue. Many say Spielberg ruined Kubrick's movie. I am inclined to accept Spielberg at his word. Spielberg was an admirer of Kubrick and knew Kubrick better than most critics did. Did Kubrick help break up Cruise and Kidman? Maybe, but it probably would have happened anyway in another year or two no matter what. C'mon: Cruise is a flake. Look what happened with Katie Holmes and Scientology. But I like most of Cruise's movies anyway. There, I said that. Was Kubrick a pervert? Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. So was Alfred Hitchcock, by the way. By now if Nicole Kidman had thought Kubrick had done anything inappropriate during the filming of Eyes Wide Shut, it would've come out. By all accounts, Kubrick treated Kidman very well. Not so much Shelley Duvall in The Shining. All the stories of that is that Kubrick mercilessly psychologically tortured her throughout the filming of that movie, while having a good old time with Jack Nicholson off the set after hours during that filming. Now, as to Brad Pitt, I like him and most of the movies he's been in, going all the way back to Thelma and Louise. But I'll admit I haven't seen Seven Years in Tibet. Not really my genre. Pitt has a diverse range. I liked, for example, Se7en, Fight Club, and (I was saving this one for later for my own Science Fiction blog, but here goes anyway) The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, among many others. Reply #356. May 08 18, 10:54 PM |
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I have not seen "Seven Years in Tibet," nor have I read the book. I have seen "Eyes Wide Shut" and I did not care for it, too much cloak and dagger, secret societies stuff for me It's just gangs for rich, titled, east coast guys. I enjoy Spielberg on almost everything. Some director fooling around with his female star, what the heck, you mean to tell me that that actually happens, I'm shocked (fake shocked face.) Reply #357. May 09 18, 12:33 AM |
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